SUFC: The Future SUFC up for sale

[Yer Blues]

Imo the plan was always put the club up for sale when planning p was granted. Why fund the flats yourself if somebody else will
Adds Wright to the argument it was always about the flats

Excellent and insightful post by yourself again as always. Except for 3 tiny things.

1. Planning permission was actually granted in 2021 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-59048126 I do not reecall a press conferance putting the club up for sale then? Could you share a link?

2. We dont current have planning permission for the newest version of the plans

3. You're wrong.

 

[londonblue]

Most business deals are done in private. Premier league has so much emphasis on it that rumours easily get out as the press are all over every little thing. For example, straight after the Saudi bloke met the Glazers the other day there were reports he was willing to pay around £6bn for United. We may get lucky and get an understanding of interested parties before a sale but it’s highly likely we will know any of the details unless PG services get some inside info and post it on Twitter

Plus public knowledge can then drive the price up easier.

Don't forget, it's also not just us. It might be that any potential buyer asks Ron and the club as a whole to keep it quiet because they may not want people to know what they're up to.

 

[londonblue]

How can you compare the two? Ron Martin has been the worst chairman this club has ever had, despite the few successes the guy has had. He’s put the club on the brink of extinction for his own personal fortune.

He hasn’t got a pot to **** it and constantly lies to employees, suppliers and fans.

Anything would be better than this crook and liar of a man.

Comparing him to Liz Truss is laughable.

I would actually argue that he's been marginally less **** than Vic Jobson, and infinitely better than the crook Anton Johnson who, let's not forget, actually stole money out of the club, including the fans' Christmas club money.

He was such a crook he was banned from football.

 

[Grayson]

Attended every march and protest and remember thinking how embarrassed I was by the amount of fans who didn’t show up and were quite happy to do **** all against the worst owner in English football.

Those fans need to take some responsibility for the mess we’re in for letting that man get away with running the club into the ground for this amount of time, without doing anything about it.

You did bugger all too then. Cheers for confirming. Stop having a pop at everybody else.

 

[Blue43]

You did bugger all too then. Cheers for confirming. Stop having a pop at everybody else.

I did bugger all? Trying to fight for my club and marched and protested with others to let the owner know he isn’t wanted at our club anymore.

Tell me, what did you do, besides sitting behind your keyboard saying “Ron won’t go anywhere, he wants his housing, protests are pointless as Ron won’t sell. Don’t boycott as it will hurt the club”

That’s the definition of bugger all

 

[danbowen]

I did bugger all? Trying to fight for my club and marched and protested with others to let the owner know he isn’t wanted at our club anymore.

Tell me, what did you do, besides sitting behind your keyboard saying “Ron won’t go anywhere, he wants his housing, protests are pointless as Ron won’t sell. Don’t boycott as it will hurt the club”

That’s the definition of bugger all

I don’t think you needed to protest for him to know that. Ron has known for years he isn’t wanted here but he doesn’t care. The protest hardly will have come as a suprise to him

 

[londonblue]

I did bugger all? Trying to fight for my club and marched and protested with others to let the owner know he isn’t wanted at our club anymore.

Tell me, what did you do, besides sitting behind your keyboard saying “Ron won’t go anywhere, he wants his housing, protests are pointless as Ron won’t sell. Don’t boycott as it will hurt the club”

That’s the definition of bugger all

And my dad's bigger than your dad. (Although in reality that probably isn't true!)

This type of argument is puerile and unnecessary. Do you really want to play fans off against each other with the "I'm better because I did more than you" argument?

Everyone is entitled to do or not do what they want as they see fit and their opinion is as valid as yours. If they think things other than direct action are worthwhile who are you to tell them they're wrong?

I've watched numerous liaison meetings on YouTube and have heard people on those calls tell Ron to his face that they have no confidence in his ability to run the club and don't consider him a fit a proper person. Personally I think that is far more powerful than a protest march that he doesn't even experience because has wasn't there, and didn't attend the match.

 

[Yer Blues]

I did bugger all? Trying to fight for my club and marched and protested with others to let the owner know he isn’t wanted at our club anymore.

Tell me, what did you do, besides sitting behind your keyboard saying “Ron won’t go anywhere, he wants his housing, protests are pointless as Ron won’t sell. Don’t boycott as it will hurt the club”

That’s the definition of bugger all

Funny innit. By your definition, I did bugger all as well as yet, here we sit, both in the same position with the club up for sale. Funny no?

One of us comes on here daily, is rude, abrasive and picks at other posters for not doing more. Generally very unpleasant.

The other is me.

 

[Stan33]

I'm not comparing Ron to Liz Truss. Come on, you're better than that. Did you not read the rest of the post? I'm showing that your comment that anybody would be better than Ron is not true. Simply changing something doesn't always make it better.

Ron doesn’t even look like Liz Truss !

 

[Blue43]

I don’t think you needed to protest for him to know that. Ron has known for years he isn’t wanted here but he doesn’t care. The protest hardly will have come as a suprise to him
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And what about the boycott of season cards, do you not think that would have come as a surprise to him?

 

[Blue43]

Funny innit. By your definition, I did bugger all as well as yet, here we sit, both in the same position with the club up for sale. Funny no?

One of us comes on here daily, is rude, abrasive and picks at other posters for not doing more. Generally very unpleasant.

The other is me.

Do you think I give a **** about what some people on here think about me?

At least some of us tried to fight for our club instead of sitting on your arses doing **** all.

If the protests had been backed by very large numbers and boycotts had happened earlier then there’s a very high chance Ron would have been gone long before now.

 

[Whispering Bob]

I think Ron's announcement was prompted by a few things ;

He is getting older (and is rumoured to be of ill-health).
He courts publicity, but has been wounded by the recent nationwide adverse publicity.
He was spooked by the potential season ticket boycott.
He wants out before the new white paper declares him unfit for office.

 

[Yer Blues]

Do you think I give a **** about what some people on here think about me?

At least some of us tried to fight for our club instead of sitting on your arses doing **** all.

If the protests had been backed by very large numbers and boycotts had happened earlier then there’s a very high chance Ron would have been gone long before now.

Thanks. I don't actually have an arse ( Terrible arse incident in in the britpop years) Crying now.

 

[Chairman Trigg]

See that Ron has now said that the revised application has gone in ,but has not been validated yet.Wouldnt any new owner want the option of adapting the stadium to his needs and not be restricted by Ron's vision.It also appears that the council are more worried about not getting their housing now rather than the building of a stadium....well that's a surprise

 

[danbowen]

And what about the boycott of season cards, do you not think that would have come as a surprise to him?

Because I forgot that was all related to the protests. If I’m not wrong that was suggested by @Sensei Phil and a few others who didn’t take part in protests so stop trying to claim that as a victory for you.

 

[Cricko]

Enough of the bickering now PLEASE!


Let's just discuss the thread title.

 

[TrevorFitzpatrickHattrick]

I've had the weekend to digest this and the only thing that's clear to me is the club will have a new owner in the near future.

The biggest question is how the club will arrive at the destination? Will it be via administration? Because if Ron doesn't negotiate sensibly, that's exactly where we're heading. Or will it be via a full sale or new investment partner? Preferable obviously, but Ron will have to package something better than a worthless football club paying rent to a landlord for a currently unbuilt stadium and partially built training ground.

All very worrying as we clearly don't have money to cover our future outgoings and Ron hasn't got any funding to support us even if he wanted to...

 

[NZamba Legend]

I commented in the 'Out of Contract Players' thread that I imagine all the out of contract players will take the opportunity to get away and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that we could find ourselves back in the same situation we were in 2010 when Luggy was brought in. This time though RM hasn't any money to entice someone like Sturrock to come along and sort out the mess, let alone all the issues that need addressing to maintain our place in the NL.

To avoid the above scenario, if at all possible, we need new owners in by mid June at the latest in my opinion, sufficiently organised to hit the ground running. If existing personnel haven't already moved on, the management team will need to know if they will be retained or replaced, existing players' contracts appraised, recruitment commenced for new players and a pre-season schedule arranged. All debts will need to be cleared and the essential work at Roots Hall undertaken. It could be an extremely busy summer for TL, after which new owners might decide they want their own man in his role. The uncertainty around the place now must be just as bad as it was prior to the winding up petition being dismissed.

Yes, this scenario is very worrying. This coming summer is sure to be another rebuild from scratch. NL survival will be the aim next year, if we're still going at all

 

[Tommy2holes]

I would actually argue that he's been marginally less **** than Vic Jobson, and infinitely better than the crook Anton Johnson who, let's not forget, actually stole money out of the club, including the fans' Christmas club money.

He was such a crook he was banned from football.

If this was worst chairman top trumps then it would likely be a close call.

Arguably Vic gave us the brightest time in our history. 6 consecutive championship / div 2 seasons. We also sold a good few players for very good money and roots hall was revamped.

He left us in league 2 with 4 million debt.

Fast forward 25 years and we are in debt to the tune of 20 odd million, roots hall is in ruins and we play in the 5th tier.

We do however, have a brighter looking future if Fossetts gets off the ground.

 

[danbowen]

If this was worst chairman top trumps then it would likely be a close call.

Arguably Vic gave us the brightest time in our history. 6 consecutive championship / div 2 seasons. We also sold a good few players for very good money and roots hall was revamped.

He left us in league 2 with 4 million debt.

Fast forward 25 years and we are in debt to the tune of 20 odd million, roots hall is in ruins and we play in the 5th tier.

We do however, have a brighter looking future if Fossetts gets off the ground.

4 million debt 25 years ago would be how much roughly in todays money?