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72-9. It's pathetic and a disgrace. And in true CS_J fashion I will be at Heathrow Airport when they return and boo them all.
 
72-9. It's pathetic and a disgrace. And in true CS_J fashion I will be at Heathrow Airport when they return and boo them all.


Disgrace is the word. No doubt KP and the like will be justifying the performance due to tiredness and how international cricketers are on a year long treadmill etc.....before moving on to his next photoshoot. England fans are the best in the world when it comes to cricket, and its an insult to those fans such as YB to put in such a pitiful display across the whole series.

This is another series in which we have gone backwards.
 
81 all out. Is this the worst, most abject, disgraceful, I want to get home for Christmas, batting performance in England's history? It is, as YB says far worse that the 40 odd all out against the inspired Curtley Ambrose.

They better bloody well buckle down in the second innings, or there is a case for none (or virtually none) of that team going to New Zealand post-Xmas, as a punishment.
 
Finished the wretched day 2-0 in our second innings with Murali bowling the only over. When was the last time a spin bowler took the first over in a Test match?
 
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I reckon we will rattle up a quick 700 tomorrow and bowl them out for under 100 on the last day, and thus square the series.

Now where did I put the gin?;) :rolleyes:
 
I reckon we will rattle up a quick 700 tomorrow and bowl them out for under 100 on the last day, and thus square the series.

Now where did I put the gin?;) :rolleyes:

Well if that's the case I'll save my air fare. I was going over with a tin of oil to pour onto the pitch, as I'm still convinced that George Davis in innocent.
 
Well if that's the case I'll save my air fare. I was going over with a tin of oil to pour onto the pitch, as I'm still convinced that George Davis in innocent.

:hilarious: Showing your age there.

By all accounts he was innocent as he was released on appeal sometime after that Headingly game against the convicts. Sadly he was soon banged up for another act of villainy. :)
 
All the good work from 2003 culminating to 2005 has been undone. We had a great coach, Duncan Fletcher who produced the best English Cricket team I've seen and they played the game with 100% commitment but in good spirit.

Fletcher was ousted just because he's not English and the media don't like him so now we have Peter Moores, and I doubt his abilities are as good as Fletcher's. The results have been pretty poor for Moores, we've been losing to teams of a standard we were beating under Fletcher and he hasn't introduced anyone of quality into the team during his first year in charge. Why he persists with Prior is a mystery - his keeping is shambolic, his batting mediocre and his behaviour behind the stumps is an embarrasment to English cricket.

Coupled with the poor form, the removal of cricket from terrestrial tv since 2005 was a big mistake, the interest in the game will wane due to this double edged sword. The blame for the current state of English cricket lies with the people at the very top!
 
Watched pretty much every ball of the latter stages at work - it was one of those events where your team is so bad, you almost want them to get worse because that level of denial is the only way to take it.

I honestly think that Fletcher's biggest mistake was making winning at home look easy. I don't remember too many tears when he left which seems slightly absurd now.

On Sri Lanka, they played well for their score but Christ they make test cricket dull to watch. Granted we should be making them work harder but in the position they were in, why go so slowly? I did think Australia had brought the test level of the game up to generally 3.5/4 RR games but Sri Lanka seem stubbornly refusing to break 3. I do have a fair bit of sympathy for Yorkshire Blue as this has been nowhere near what any englishman could have expected really.
 
I wouldn't feel too sorry for me. I'm not the one stuck at work and in the freezing cold. My main concern is now that Sri Lanka wrap it up nice and early and give me more time on the beach.

After the rain break yesterday, it didn't get any better. Sideshow at least showed guts and hung around for more balls than anyone, but when your best innings is 11 by your no.8 that's a shocking indictment. Collingwood played all round a straight one and the last run out was a comedy masterpiece. There was never the run there, both batsman more or less ended up the same end and then the throw was wild and inaccurate, but the keeper still had time to gather it and throw down the stumps with Monty failing to run his bat in straight.

For the first time I booed them off and sung you're not fit to wear the shirts. I understand it was difficult but it was the worse day's cricket by an England side that I know of.

Peter Moores may be a fine coach in England but he doesn't understand foreign conditions. Its a steep learning curve and he now has to earn his money in NZ.

Today's been better up to lunch, although Vaughan is looking more and more like a latter day right-handed Gower, throwing his wicket away with a dreadful shot to a nothing ball.

Cook and Bell need to score 150s, not to win the test, but to salvage some pride.
 
Agree on the last point YB, at least one of these two now need a big 100 just to get some belief back in the side. Hope the rain subsides, want to watch this game.

Discarding Bopara (as he's likely to be chosen), would any of you have a different batsman in the side at the moment? If so, who would you choose?
 
Discarding Bopara (as he's likely to be chosen), would any of you have a different batsman in the side at the moment? If so, who would you choose?

Ramprakash. This is an incredibly young and inexperienced side, all told, and they could have done with an old head out there. Ramps has topped the averages for the last few seasons, is playing brilliantly, and is a sublime player of spin (having been a county colleague of the likes of Saqlain).

102/1 at stumps, with the rest of the day's play lost to rain. But, my goodness, we don't deserve to draw this Test, nor should that result paper over the gaping holes in this side...

:(
 
Ramprakash. This is an incredibly young and inexperienced side, all told, and they could have done with an old head out there. Ramps has topped the averages for the last few seasons, is playing brilliantly, and is a sublime player of spin (having been a county colleague of the likes of Saqlain).

102/1 at stumps, with the rest of the day's play lost to rain. But, my goodness, we don't deserve to draw this Test, nor should that result paper over the gaping holes in this side...

:(

What could Ramps teach them about success at test level?

They've all scored runs at county level, its test cricket they are struggling with. Besides, if they just need an old head to teach them about averaging 50 in test cricket and being a truly sublime player of spin, the batting coach is Andy Flower, arguably the greatest player of spin ever.
 
Agree on the last point YB, at least one of these two now need a big 100 just to get some belief back in the side. Hope the rain subsides, want to watch this game.

Discarding Bopara (as he's likely to be chosen), would any of you have a different batsman in the side at the moment? If so, who would you choose?

Like MtS Ramprakash should have been chosen to tour - he has averaged over 100 in each of the last two seasons - and I know he has failed in the past, but he is much, much more mature these days, and would not be worrying himself about retaining his place in the side - as was the case in the old days.

On top of that Owais Shah. It's been argued on here that he is too nervous, and displays nervous energy all the time. Well he namaged an 80 on Test debut - so it can't be all that bad.

Bopara, I think I'm right in saying is the first batsman not to score at least 50 on Test debut for England for a very long time. I believe the list is commenced by Anthony McGrath, and goes something like (I may be wrong): McGrath, Smith, Bell, Strauss, Pietersen, Cook, Shah. The previous to miss out was Paul Collingwood. And, if you include Matt Prior as a batsman - he is in there too, but Geraint Jones didn't score 50 on debut.
 
Like MtS Ramprakash should have been chosen to tour - he has averaged over 100 in each of the last two seasons - and I know he has failed in the past, but he is much, much more mature these days, and would not be worrying himself about retaining his place in the side - as was the case in the old days.

On top of that Owais Shah. It's been argued on here that he is too nervous, and displays nervous energy all the time. Well he namaged an 80 on Test debut - so it can't be all that bad.

Bopara, I think I'm right in saying is the first batsman not to score at least 50 on Test debut for England for a very long time. I believe the list is commenced by Anthony McGrath, and goes something like (I may be wrong): McGrath, Smith, Bell, Strauss, Pietersen, Cook, Shah. The previous to miss out was Paul Collingwood. And, if you include Matt Prior as a batsman - he is in there too, but Geraint Jones didn't score 50 on debut.

Maybe, but I think Zimbabwe at home (McGrath, IIRC) is a slightly easier proposition than Sri Lanka away. Only Shah and Cook I think made their debuts away from home of that list - as did Collingwood.

I think Rikki Clarke also made his debut away from home (Bangladesh) and failed to get a 50, although he is arguably an all-rounder.
 
Maybe, but I think Zimbabwe at home (McGrath, IIRC) is a slightly easier proposition than Sri Lanka away. Only Shah and Cook I think made their debuts away from home of that list - as did Collingwood.

I think Rikki Clarke also made his debut away from home (Bangladesh) and failed to get a 50, although he is arguably an all-rounder.

Forgot about him! And if I include Bopara, Clarke should also be included. In fact, I've looked it up, and Collingwood made his debut, surprisingly after McGrath.
 

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