Post-Match Thread and Ratings Southend United vs Cheltenham Town

[Tangled up in Blue]

This will possibly be news to everyone, apart from Tangled up in Blue! :winking:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...ham-league-two
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Ha! Thanks Yogi.Hadn't seen it.Busy this morning!

 

[mgh]

good report.

 

[Mick]

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Officials: Shocking West stand lino who clearly didn't know the offside rule, which meant Kettle had to keep giving offsides against us. Inconsistent is as good a summary as any.

There were three offside calls that had the crowd in uproar. Two of them were correct.

Most people in the crowd are watching play build up and following the ball. By the time the ball has been lumped forward and reaches the front man, the player who, at the time the ball was played, was a yard offside is now a yard onside and it looks a hideous decision. Unless you get into the habit of watching two things simultaneously, often at 90 degree angles, you will not be able to make an informed judgement on the accuracy of these calls.

Balls that are played from the centre of the pitch or far side are easier to judge as the angle is better; the hardest ones are when the full back just keeps it in play and punts it forward. You are looking straight down the line watching ball in play or not and also right across the pitch for the offside player. Not as easy as it seems.

 

[OldBlueLady]

There were three offside calls that had the crowd in uproar. Two of them were correct.

Most people in the crowd are watching play build up and following the ball. By the time the ball has been lumped forward and reaches the front man, the player who, at the time the ball was played, was a yard offside is now a yard onside and it looks a hideous decision. Unless you get into the habit of watching two things simultaneously, often at 90 degree angles, you will not be able to make an informed judgement on the accuracy of these calls.

Balls that are played from the centre of the pitch or far side are easier to judge as the angle is better; the hardest ones are when the full back just keeps it in play and punts it forward. You are looking straight down the line watching ball in play or not and also right across the pitch for the offside player. Not as easy as it seems.

Are you sure they were correct Mick? From where we sit, our angle often means you're viewing the action where you can often see a player moving forward onto a long pass going towards the South goal, and certainly I thought there were two calls that were definitely wrong and that Corr ran from an onside position when the ball was played.

 

[Mick]

Are you sure they were correct Mick? From where we sit, our angle often means you're viewing the action where you can often see a player moving forward onto a long pass going towards the South goal, and certainly I thought there were two calls that were definitely wrong and that Corr ran from an onside position when the ball was played.

Absolutely, but I had big doubts about the third one !!!

 

[FarmdogSUFC]

There were three offside calls that had the crowd in uproar. Two of them were correct.

Most people in the crowd are watching play build up and following the ball. By the time the ball has been lumped forward and reaches the front man, the player who, at the time the ball was played, was a yard offside is now a yard onside and it looks a hideous decision. Unless you get into the habit of watching two things simultaneously, often at 90 degree angles, you will not be able to make an informed judgement on the accuracy of these calls.

Balls that are played from the centre of the pitch or far side are easier to judge as the angle is better; the hardest ones are when the full back just keeps it in play and punts it forward. You are looking straight down the line watching ball in play or not and also right across the pitch for the offside player. Not as easy as it seems.

I'm with you on this one. There was 1 that looked well onside to me, but the other 2 looked perfect calls.

 

[fbm]

I'm with you on this one. There was 1 that looked well onside to me, but the other 2 looked perfect calls.

Agreed. I thought there was only one wrong call as well and I'd give the lino the benefit of the doubt on that one.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Ok fair enough guys

 

[Zeuss]

Refereeing is by no means an easy job-it's not just in one direction that they need to be looking/aware of.But having said that the refereeing in this country,not just league two, is very often abysmal .You wonder where they find these people.It won't happen but ex-players would obviously be an improvement.Kettle,clearly, is even worse than the majority.
Running the line,however, should be extremely easy.Most of their job is making correct off-side decisions.The **** in the 2nd half(West Stand) made a couple of horrendous errors-they weren't even close to being off-side.

 

[Southend Pier]

Refereeing is by no means an easy job-it's not just in one direction that they need to be looking/aware of.But having said that the refereeing in this country,not just league two, is very often abysmal .You wonder where they find these people.It won't happen but ex-players would obviously be an improvement.Kettle,clearly, is even worse than the majority.
Running the line,however, should be extremely easy.Most of their job is making correct off-side decisions.The **** in the 2nd half(West Stand) made a couple of horrendous errors-they weren't even close to being off-side.

Ex players refereeing is an interesting one. the only dowmside is they may be targets for favouritism. not only reffing teams they played for but doing them favours in other fixtures. maybe they could be involved in divisions they're not used too.

 

[dannypav]

Refereeing is by no means an easy job-it's not just in one direction that they need to be looking/aware of.But having said that the refereeing in this country,not just league two, is very often abysmal .You wonder where they find these people.It won't happen but ex-players would obviously be an improvement.Kettle,clearly, is even worse than the majority.
Running the line,however, should be extremely easy.Most of their job is making correct off-side decisions.The **** in the 2nd half(West Stand) made a couple of horrendous errors-they weren't even close to being off-side.

I know those young scamps get up to all sorts , but why the need to referee a Boy Band ??

 

[Jam_Man]

There were three offside calls that had the crowd in uproar. Two of them were correct.

Most people in the crowd are watching play build up and following the ball. By the time the ball has been lumped forward and reaches the front man, the player who, at the time the ball was played, was a yard offside is now a yard onside and it looks a hideous decision. Unless you get into the habit of watching two things simultaneously, often at 90 degree angles, you will not be able to make an informed judgement on the accuracy of these calls.

Balls that are played from the centre of the pitch or far side are easier to judge as the angle is better; the hardest ones are when the full back just keeps it in play and punts it forward. You are looking straight down the line watching ball in play or not and also right across the pitch for the offside player. Not as easy as it seems.

Indeed. I sit in the Family Enclosure or the East Blacks so get a decent view of the defensive line and its amazing how often a player is offside and the crowd scream it was a mistake.

You also get plenty of people who just dont understand the offside rule and are screaming for a flag to be raised when a player is in an offside position and not interfering, or when the linesman waits for a player to touch the ball before raising his flag.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Refereeing is by no means an easy job-it's not just in one direction that they need to be looking/aware of.But having said that the refereeing in this country,not just league two, is very often abysmal

Agreed, there was some very dodgy reffing in the televised Chelsea/Southampton game yesterday! Hubby was NOT happy with Mr Michael Oliver!

 

[stickyboy]

2 out of 3 decisions correct is still not good enough though. Unfortunately the job is never that easy with both sides appealing for every decisions all the time though. Football is all about how much you can get away with, ie appealing when you know its not your ball etc, gaining yards for free kicks etc etc