Echo News Southend United chairman Ron Martin says fans are putting people off

[steve nead]

does this explain Ron?

Dunning-Kruger Effect​

Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area. This tends to occur because a lack of self-awareness prevents them from accurately assessing their own skills.

Why do people fail to recognize their own incompetence?



Many people would describe themselves as above average in intelligence, humor, and a variety of skills. They can’t accurately judge their own competence, because they lack metacognition, or the ability to step back and examine oneself objectively. In fact, those who are the least skilled are also the most likely to overestimate their abilities.

the finest example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, that of an incapable leader who thinks he can overcome his incompetence by his arrogance and his lack of humanity towards his troops.


the full article is worth reading

 

[wiggy]

Time to protest bigger and harder than ever now

....agree, he hates it and looks like he ain't going nowhere so lets get SKY, BBC DOWN TO BENFLEET. apparently his health isn't suffering so don't feel guilty!

 

[thenobster]

Only because it highlights what a k nob he truly is. No other explanation.
His business accumin and the way he's run the club and therefore sparked the fans ire, has nothing to do with it.
Deluded.

 

[thenobster]

....agree, he hates it and looks like he ain't going nowhere so lets get SKY, BBC DOWN TO BENFLEET. apparently his health isn't suffering so don't feel guilty!

All the better for running up behind him with a balloon and a pin

 

[RHB]

....agree, he hates it and looks like he ain't going nowhere so lets get SKY, BBC DOWN TO BENFLEET. apparently his health isn't suffering so don't feel guilty!

I doubt any of us do mate!

 

[Rob1920]

All that means is the protests are getting to him, which has to be a good thing.

 

[palexander]

Forum | Southend by burnsieespana

It seems our neighbours are once again the subject of an HMRC winding up order and £16m of debts have recently been transferred to the club by the Chairman. With the transfer embargo in place it

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The last 2 comments may be of interest to you

The current sales package for Southend United F.C. ( as of 17.00 hours, Friday 28th July, 2023 ), seems to consist of roughly the following.

Roots Hall £4.5 million
New training ground £2.25 million ( tbc )
Shares in club ( 70.6 per cent ) £1
Amount to clear current debts ( tbc ) £2.5 million

Amount required to cover first complete year of trading (tbc ) £1.2 million

This is coming in at around £10.45 million.

£10 million was quoted as the circa figure that would satisfy the immediate demands ( of the seller ) to enable the club to trade under new ownership.

I expect a variation on this theme in the coming weeks.

This information courtesy of the agents dealing with the sale.

( Roots Hall and the new training ground represent the lion's share of what is on the shopping list, strip that out of the equation and that lightens the load ).

Am I being massively naive, but to me, ~£10m to own a football club with a lot of potential seems a bargain tbh and not sure what the hold up is.

Yes, has ongoing costs (depends whats covered in that 1.2m "first year of trading") - and will need a budget for new players, but we all know what potential as a club we have and with the right people can turn this club on its head.

I dunno... just £10m doesnt seem unrealistic for the potential?

 

[Scamps]

I’ve always said it, he doesn’t like people protesting outside his house. We should now make it the biggest protest ever. How about Sunday??

 

[Mad Cyril]

Am I being massively naive, but to me, ~£10m to own a football club with a lot of potential seems a bargain tbh and not sure what the hold up is.

Yes, has ongoing costs (depends whats covered in that 1.2m "first year of trading") - and will need a budget for new players, but we all know what potential as a club we have and with the right people can turn this club on its head.

I dunno... just £10m doesnt seem unrealistic for the potential?

£10m to own a loss making business doesn't seem a good deal to me.

 

[duncan bulgaria]

From what i can gather , Wigan and Charlton were both bought for less ....both in better shape than ours

 

[palexander]

£10m to own a loss making business doesn't seem a good deal to me.

Is the idea (challenge/excitement?) in turning it into a profit making business by being better than the way that clown has run us though?...

 

[Mad Cyril]

Is the idea (challenge/excitement?) in turning it into a profit making business by being better than the way that clown has run us though?...

It's not the sort of business you can throw management consultants at and turn around though.

 

[Supa Shrimpa]

Am I being massively naive, but to me, ~£10m to own a football club with a lot of potential seems a bargain tbh and not sure what the hold up is.

Yes, has ongoing costs (depends whats covered in that 1.2m "first year of trading") - and will need a budget for new players, but we all know what potential as a club we have and with the right people can turn this club on its head.

I dunno... just £10m doesnt seem unrealistic for the potential?

But it's riddled with debt (Net Worth -£18.6m as at Jul 21), and I dread to think how much work is going to be required to repair RH going forward. I think it's going to need somebody who just loves the club and doesn't want to see it fail.

 

[Mad Cyril]

But it's riddled with debt (Net Worth -£18.6m as at Jul 21), and I dread to think how much work is going to be required to repair RH going forward. I think it's going to need somebody who just loves the club and doesn't want to see it fail.

And a net worth of about £100m

 

[Cricko]

But it's riddled with debt (Net Worth -£18.6m as at Jul 21), and I dread to think how much work is going to be required to repair RH going forward. I think it's going to need somebody who just loves the club and doesn't want to see it fail.

I must admit when i went there yesterday in the cold light of day it reminded me of when i was at TOTS and saw the difference between a night club full on and the next day and how dirty it all was.

RH is on it's knee's because there has been zero investment in the actual ground for 25 years.. We have been left to rot as RM chased his pipe dream of FF. Now we are faced with a nearly derelict ground.

 

[Shrimp and two veg]

Beyonce is looking for a club to buy. Pick up the phone and say Halo to her Ronaldo

 

[Dave Smiths Love Child]

I must admit when i went there yesterday in the cold light of day it reminded me of when i was at TOTS and saw the difference between a night club full on and the next day and how dirty it all was.

RH is on it's knee's because there has been zero investment in the actual ground for 25 years.. We have been left to rot as RM chased his pipe dream of FF. Now we are faced with a nearly derelict ground.

At least you might have got a knee tremble outside TOTS on Friday night at 3 am, not sure RH offers that Cricko

 

[annie1954]

I must admit when i went there yesterday in the cold light of day it reminded me of when i was as TOTS and saw the difference between a night club full on and the next day and how dirty it all was.

RH is on it's knee's because there has been zero investment in the actual ground for 25 years.. We have been left to rot as RM chased his pipe dream of FF. Now we are faced with a nearly derelict ground.

That just about sums up where we are in a few lines I couldn’t believe how bad it was behind the scenes at the ground, and that man is happy to have his staff there working in those conditions trying to keep it clean & maintained without spending his money

 

[southendkid]

Is the idea (challenge/excitement?) in turning it into a profit making business by being better than the way that clown has run us though?...

Take your attachment to Southend out of the equation. If you want to buy a football club would you be keen to spend £10m on a club with severe financial issues when you could just wait for a more financially secure club (possibly in a higher league) to become available?

Wrexham was bought for a quid debt free (albeit with a condition that £2m had to be immediately invested into the club), why would anyone look at what Ron is offering and think it was a good deal?

 

[Suffolk Shrimper In Dorset]

If a buyer was put off by the protests then me thinks that buyer is a little too sensitive to be involved in football anyway. Imagine that person coming on here and seeing one or two negative comments ........

Total boll ocks Ron