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Post-Match Thread and Ratings Southend United 1-1 Wycombe Wanderers

It wasn't pride and passion that was lacking, it was confidence.

And as fans, I don't believe we deserve more. The atmosphere in Roots Hall was like a morgue. There was a bit of drum banging, so maybe the North-West actually made some noise, but if they did it didn't carry.

The fans got the performance they deserved.

It may have been morgue-like, but i didn't think it was too bad in Block W, but that's probably because I was sat in front of Smiffy, and the drum was in my ear.

Anyway, The Roots Hall atmosphere has always been ****. That can't be used as an excuse in my book. It's just a shame so many people are completely against getting involved.
 
I'm sorry, but nothing riles me more than this kind of statement which does seem to be used frequently accross the football world...football is a job to these guys; a job just like any other (except for the fact that they get paid handsomely for playing a game they love...most of us just 'get paid'). Whilst I appreciate this does not allow fans a God given right to abuse them until the cows come home; in simply doing their job, neither are they owed our unerring vociferous support, particularly when they produce that kind of drivel...only three players came out of yesterday with any credit, and that credit is just for doing their job....as above, what they are paid a lot of money to do.


Football is a job, and they went out and did a job. Not a particularly good job, but they fulfilled their contractual obligations in that they physically turned up and ran about and played a game of football.

Do you always perform to 100% of your ability at work? Are there not days at work where you don't go the extra mile beyond what you are contractually obliged to do? Days when maybe you need not a payrise, but a bit of encouragement?

If the fans want the players to go above and beyond it being a job, for the players to show some passion, then the fans need to show some passion.

If fans can't be arsed to be "up for it" when they have an emotional attachment for the club, why should the players who don't have any emotional attachment be "up for it". They can still go out and perform their job without passion - passion isn't part of their job description.

I think fans have unrealistic expectations to expect players to be up for it every game, when they themselves, despite their emotional involvement, can't be up for it.

It may have been morgue-like, but i didn't think it was too bad in Block W, but that's probably because I was sat in front of Smiffy, and the drum was in my ear.

Anyway, The Roots Hall atmosphere has always been ****. That can't be used as an excuse in my book. It's just a shame so many people are completely against getting involved.

Whilst I agree the Roots Hall atmosphere has been **** since it was turned into an all-seater, it was noticeably worse than normal.
 
Football is a job, and they went out and did a job. Not a particularly good job, but they fulfilled their contractual obligations in that they physically turned up and ran about and played a game of football.

Do you always perform to 100% of your ability at work? Are there not days at work where you don't go the extra mile beyond what you are contractually obliged to do? Days when maybe you need not a payrise, but a bit of encouragement?

If the fans want the players to go above and beyond it being a job, for the players to show some passion, then the fans need to show some passion.

If fans can't be arsed to be "up for it" when they have an emotional attachment for the club, why should the players who don't have any emotional attachment be "up for it". They can still go out and perform their job without passion - passion isn't part of their job description.

I think fans have unrealistic expectations to expect players to be up for it every game, when they themselves, despite their emotional involvement, can't be up for it.



Whilst I agree the Roots Hall atmosphere has been **** since it was turned into an all-seater, it was noticeably worse than normal.

I can't really agree with that tbh. If you underperformed in your job by that amount (and lets be honest, it was severe underperformance), you would either be warned or be out of a job.

And the atmosphere was awful but if we had played really well, it might have excited the crowd a tad. The fact that neither side could make two passes was the main reason for the sterile atmosphere imo.
 
Not even worth a report.

Dire, clueless, no pride, no passion and we deserve more.

That shower shown yesterday is not acceptable.

Completely agree, The fans did try to get behind them on so many occasions, but the players let them down, and the fans gave up trying, who'd blame them, there was really nothing to cheer/chant about.

Awful performance, better be improved vastly for the upcoming matches, especially Col Ewe away, we don't want to lose to them AND show sky sports watchers just how bad our performance is, do we?
 
I can't really agree with that tbh. If you underperformed in your job by that amount (and lets be honest, it was severe underperformance), you would either be warned or be out of a job.

No you wouldn't. Every industry is results based and that result whilst not the best wasn't anywhere close to disastrous. Even the performance wasn't as bad as you make out. Bad performances are inevitable over the course of a 50 odd game season and that wasn't a very good one; it happens. It would have to become more than an isolated incident for an employer to even contemplate dismissing someone for bad performance. I really pity you if your boss is as knee-jerk as the reactions on here.

And the atmosphere was awful but if we had played really well, it might have excited the crowd a tad. The fact that neither side could make two passes was the main reason for the sterile atmosphere imo.

The atmosphere was sterile before the game had even kicked off.
 
No you wouldn't. Every industry is results based and that result whilst not the best wasn't anywhere close to disastrous. Even the performance wasn't as bad as you make out. Bad performances are inevitable over the course of a 50 odd game season and that wasn't a very good one; it happens. It would have to become more than an isolated incident for an employer to even contemplate dismissing someone for bad performance. I really pity you if your boss is as knee-jerk as the reactions on here.



The atmosphere was sterile before the game had even kicked off.

1 - It is hardly an isolated incident....I would suggest at least half of this season's performances have been toilet. Also, with regard to my job, it is slightly different, because 8,000 people are not spending their hard-earned money every other week to come and watch me survey buildings. I don't have that support and adulation, but I do get the stress and pressure from my superiors and paying Clients....this should be no different for players.

2 - The atmosphere will vary accordingly at any stadium....that is, according to what the players give fans to cheer about. Particularly in a ground where the vocal support is as fragmented, and the natural acoustics of the built environment are as dire as Roots Hall, this was, and is inevitable.
 
No you wouldn't. Every industry is results based and that result whilst not the best wasn't anywhere close to disastrous. Even the performance wasn't as bad as you make out. Bad performances are inevitable over the course of a 50 odd game season and that wasn't a very good one; it happens. It would have to become more than an isolated incident for an employer to even contemplate dismissing someone for bad performance. I really pity you if your boss is as knee-jerk as the reactions on here.



The atmosphere was sterile before the game had even kicked off.

I agree, every industry is results-based. So on that basis, the fact that we are 4 points off the relegation zone (having played a game more than three of the teams in the relegation zone) would suggest that performances have not been up to scratch. And it wasn't even the performance that got me yesterday, it was the effort. Players weren't closing the opposition down, not winning nearly enough 1st or 2nd balls and were bottling tackles. Confidence might affect performance but it shouldn't affect effort.

I agree that the atmosphere was sterile prior to the start of the game but had we come out and played well in the first five, the crowd would have livened up.
 
The atmosphere was sterile before the game had even kicked off.

Not for me, i was proper up for it, similar to the lads i spoke to before the game aswell. Obviously i can't speak for everyone, but the people i spoke to were in bouyant moods.
 
And it wasn't even the performance that got me yesterday, it was the effort. Players weren't closing the opposition down, not winning nearly enough 1st or 2nd balls and were bottling tackles. Confidence might affect performance but it shouldn't affect effort.

Pretty much my feelings on the game. Disgracefull effort by these so-called professionals.
 
Well, that was a remember of the bad old days on Saturday before the Tilson era wasn't it?!

Both, the fans and the players, performed poor in my opinion, with very few players coming out with any credit whatsoever.

Now, I'm a massive Tilson fan, and I have backed 99% of what he has done here, but the last two home games (Col Ewe and Wycombe) I've had a problem with. Firstly, putting Laurent upfront against Col Ewe, when he has been fantastic on the wing was a mistake, and Saturday lining up 4-5-1 against second bottom is an equal mistake in my eyes. Home teams should look to dominate the match, come out of the traps flying and do the majority of the pressing, I don't see how we can do that playing 4-5-1.

Anyways, here are my views on the players:

Mildenhall - Our best player, and without him we'd have lost. Couple of cracking saves in the second half, and looked to dominate his box as normal. Must be a shoe-in for player of the season now Barnard has gone.

Sankofa - Got forward quite well actually, which surprised me. Fantastic cross for Macca's goal and did what was expected of him.

Francis - He clearly isn't a centre back, so its hard to be too critical. With him in the middle we lose his attacking play from the right. He'd have had a field day down the wing on Saturday.

Barrett - Its difficult for him. He has already had 7 different central defensive partners this season, when over the course of the last 2/3 years he had mainly had one in Clarke. Did an alright job, but my concern is, when he is playing with someone out of position, like Francis, he is always trying to help him out, which means his own game suffers. He has looked captain fantastic alongside M'Voto, and good with Heath and Morrison, but when its someone else, he struggles.

Malone - Not his biggest fan, and I'd prefer Herd there despite his flaws. With him signing a loan till the end of the season, we will have to get used to him but he needs to up his performances sharpish.

Laurent - Not his best game, and a shocking miss in the second half, but still our playing that looks to create stuff. I thought Scannell played better than Laurent, but I still thought Laurent would be the one to make something happen, even playing like that.

Moussa - His performance was an upgrade from his left wing performances of late, but only because he has been well out of form on the left and not because he played well in the middle.

Macca - Good goal, which upped his rating in my eyes, but then he dropped it by giving away a stupid free-kick which lead to the goal with a silly push on a player as he was getting to his feet. My main gripe with him on Saturday, was the amount of passes he plays without looking. He just keeps hooking the ball over his shoulder when he has no idea what is around him.

Grant - Wasted against Wycombe. Plays fair too deep and was basically a 5th defender rather than a midfielder. Not a great performance.

Scannell - As mentioned in the Laurent ratings, I thought he had a good game which was backed up by my anti-Scannell mate who agreed. Our 2nd best player in my eyes on Saturday.

Paterson - Difficult for him up top on his own. Very difficult role to play as everytime he did win something in the air, there was no-one around to pick up the second ball. Held the ball up well and his link up play was good, but should have scored. At that distance, just put your left foot through it. Instead, he tried to run round the ball, and bend it into the far corner, but mi**** the shoot. Encouraging signs but needs a partner.

Subs:

Spencer - Looked lively when he come on, but didn't get much of the ball. Has more pace than I realised.

Freedman - Didn't see much of the ball.

Walker - Looked to make things happen from the left flank, kept cutting in onto his right foot but actually did very little.

Not many positives to come out of Saturdays game apart from Mildenhall, Scannell and Paterson's performances, and we edged a point further away from the drop zone.
 
Thats really funny that every paper and the football league have Macca as our best player. It would seem that the match day sponsors were not the only ones who noticed he was the best player.
 
Thats really funny that every paper and the football league have Macca as our best player. It would seem that the match day sponsors were not the only ones who noticed he was the best player.

I know, weird that isn't it?
 

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