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Sky have to take massive credit for the success of the Premier League as it was their money that allowed it to be launched. No one else was going to screen dozens and then hundreds of live football games and the money that went into the game, especially in the early 90s, contributed massively to the turnaround in football in this country, along with the Taylor Report and Italia 90.

Sky didn't outbid ITV by that much IIRC. If it were ITV's money behind the PL would you then say that ITV were the ones created the success? Personally I wouldn't. I would say it was the Chief Exec etc of the PL. The only reason Sky won the rights was because David Kohler had "argument" with the guy running the ITV bid the day before the vote. For some reason I can't remember David Kohler ended up with the casting vote.

Of course showing lower leagues isn't altruism, but the lower leagues are also not a money maker for any broadcaster. You only have to look at the viewing figures that ITV Digital were getting to see that. People don't want to see Port Vale vs. Sheffield United. That Sky show these matches, regardless of their motives, is a good thing for the fans of clubs who probably wouldn't have the national TV exposure otherwise. Like us.

I'm not actually disagreeing with that. What I said was that their coverage makes me cringe and I don't think it's very good. Unfortunately there's no alternative.

To be honest, I've watched a lot of sports channels around the World and none hold a candle to Sky Sports.

In your opinion. Personally I think they're not even the best in this country. I'm not a fan of the BBC, but IMO they are light years ahead of Sky. Mind you, I also think Sky are light years ahead of ITV these days!
 
Southend feature one game a season at home unless they are in playoffs or cups.
Sky make millions from fans and give little back to lower leagues, as it is all about the Prem for them and worldwide TV coverage.
BT did well for a couple of seasons with good coverage of the Conference.
Sky money inflates wage demands of top level players, and quite a few clubs would struggle without Sky TV money.
They are a business though, I don't see why you expect them to give anything back? No other company would.
 
As a pure concept, Soccer AM's an excellent idea. There is an enormous audience in this country for a football-themed chat/entertainment show on Saturday mornings. But in its current format Soccer AM is a woefully tired and **** poor attempt at providing it. It should've been canned years ago and Helen Chamberlain, Tubes et al cast back into the ****ing sea.

Sky gets a bad rep, and rightly so on many fronts, but their overall coverage of the product they have is very, very good. I succumbed to the pressure and got BT Sport this summer (a great decision given they look set to nab La Liga coverage this year), and it's amateur hour over there in comparison.

But this 92 Live thing is downright vomitous. Self-serving nonsense. I thought Phil Brown's back was going to be the worst thing I'd see today, but I've had to watch the odious Jim White do three separate interviews in which he spent the majority of the time gurning down the camera lens because he's the real star of this show. Horrendous stuff.

In your opinion. In mine it's the worst idea anyone could have had. It's like childrens' Saturday morning TV, but without the intelligence. It appeals to the lowest common denominator. I haven't even turned it on for about 5 years so to say it's now even worse just makes me feel ill!
 
In your opinion. In mine it's the worst idea anyone could have had. It's like childrens' Saturday morning TV, but without the intelligence. It appeals to the lowest common denominator. I haven't even turned it on for about 5 years so to say it's now even worse just makes me feel ill!

All of that's criticism of Soccer AM, not the concept of a Saturday morning, pre-game light entertainment show for football fans.
 
The waxing took place in the kit room......Dan arrived after everyone else, the rest were already changed and out on the pitch. A few of them were late arriving because of transport problems. So, no conspiracy, honest, it was just somewhere safe to hang his top!

Suze and I were entertained by the various goings on in the physio room in the lead up to this, with most players coming in and having a chat - unfortunately, none of them were allowed to watch the actual waxing!

Firstly why were you there??? To make the tea?

Secondly it was utter drivel and an embarrassment
 
All of that's criticism of Soccer AM, not the concept of a Saturday morning, pre-game light entertainment show for football fans.

Agreed. But having a light entertainment programme is only one part of the its conception. The other was the crap they have filled their time with.
 
Agreed. But having a light entertainment programme is only one part of the its conception. The other was the crap they have filled their time with.

Exactly, it's the other crap that needs culling, not necessarily the premise itself. Cut it down to 90 minutes, get rid of the entire 'cast', bring in two hosts/anchors and strip the entire premise down. Interviews with pros/managers, feature stories of anything interesting (like the kind Sunday's MOTD includes), what's happening on the continent and a really brief look forward at the weekend's action.

If there's one thing Sky are particularly guilty of it's hamming up and trying to create a story over the most insignificant details of football. This 92 Live nonsense is a prime example.
 
Exactly, it's the other crap that needs culling, not necessarily the premise itself. Cut it down to 90 minutes, get rid of the entire 'cast', bring in two hosts/anchors and strip the entire premise down. Interviews with pros/managers, feature stories of anything interesting (like the kind Sunday's MOTD includes), what's happening on the continent and a really brief look forward at the weekend's action.

If there's one thing Sky are particularly guilty of it's hamming up and trying to create a story over the most insignificant details of football. This 92 Live nonsense is a prime example.

Just bring back Football Italia.

I'd happily watch a 'Guardian Football Weekly' style Sky show (a bit like Goals on Sunday) interspersed with some videos and clips and guest players. Amusing, insightful, not laddish.

Also, less of Johnny Stokes' shorts. That would singlehandedly improve Soccer AM 10000%:smile:
 
Firstly why were you there??? To make the tea?

Secondly it was utter drivel and an embarrassment

Not that it is any business of yours but because the waxing was a Trust organised activity and Suze and I put the idea together in the first place.

Why do you have to be so unpleasant in all your postings towards me? Are you jealous or something that I have a good relationship with the club?

I don't get why people have to be so disparaging, the club were trying to do something good here, and having seen some of the other clubs' efforts, I think ours was one of the better ones!

And Pubey, you're stalking my photos again, and you have the wrong slogan, that was last year's. :tease:
 
Not that it is any business of yours but because the waxing was a Trust organised activity and Suze and I put the idea together in the first place.

Why do you have to be so unpleasant in all your postings towards me? Are you jealous or something that I have a good relationship with the club?

I don't get why people have to be so disparaging, the club were trying to do something good here, and having seen some of the other clubs' efforts, I think ours was one of the better ones!

And Pubey, you're stalking my photos again, and you have the wrong slogan, that was last year's. :tease:

Do I have to pay a donation to use the photo?
 
I don't get why people have to be so disparaging, the club were trying to do something good here, and having seen some of the other clubs' efforts, I think ours was one of the better ones!

Much as I pay something like £60 a month for it to be deemed acceptable that Katie Hopkins has a programme on The Learning Channel (the only thing that she can teach me is how not to act like a complete **** for the sake of being a ****) the last thing I want to see is a Sky Sports reporter finding out the big news of a contract being signed while someone is having their back hair waxed off.

Sounds like something Alan Partridge would moot as a good idea...

They should leave this to the local reporters who do a much better job than some oik turning up once a year for ***** and giggles. Well lolz, off for a cheeky nandos now.

Bantz.
 
Not that it is any business of yours but because the waxing was a Trust organised activity and Suze and I put the idea together in the first place.

Why do you have to be so unpleasant in all your postings towards me? Are you jealous or something that I have a good relationship with the club?

I don't get why people have to be so disparaging, the club were trying to do something good here, and having seen some of the other clubs' efforts, I think ours was one of the better ones!

And Pubey, you're stalking my photos again, and you have the wrong slogan, that was last year's. :tease:

Jealous hahahahahahahahaha

I'm not unpleasant I am bored
 
Exactly, it's the other crap that needs culling, not necessarily the premise itself. Cut it down to 90 minutes, get rid of the entire 'cast', bring in two hosts/anchors and strip the entire premise down. Interviews with pros/managers, feature stories of anything interesting (like the kind Sunday's MOTD includes), what's happening on the continent and a really brief look forward at the weekend's action.

If there's one thing Sky are particularly guilty of it's hamming up and trying to create a story over the most insignificant details of football. This 92 Live nonsense is a prime example.

But that's exactly my point. That isn't the idea behind the show. The idea is to give people who are probably hung over something to not have to think about, and it just embarrasses me. Why does everything they do have to be aimed at the lowest common denominator?
 

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