Promotion and relegation 2019/20 season

[kentblues]

Club Statement regarding EFL Instagram post

Update - Thursday 28th May, 11am It has been five days since Tranmere lodged a complaint with the EFL media department that a post including pictures of Tranmere’s promotion to League One last year was the only post on the EFL’s Instagram platform which did not enable comments.

www.tranmererovers.co.uk

I will let you draw your own conclusions. Mine are that the EFL is in free fall and a new organisation under new leadership is becoming all but inevitable. Tranmere are not my club but the way the EFL is treating them and their supporters is an embarrassment to football- and some question why Tranmere are adamant they will go legal if need be..

 

[kentblues]

Oh the gift that keeps on giving- the local Tranmere MP just happens, per chance, to be Shadow Sports Minister. He is not happy. Not happy at all..

 

[Evening Echo]

SOUTHEND United have yet to decide how they vote to end the League One season, Echosport understands.

More...

 

[overseas shrimper]

Amidst all this talk about how the EFL will finish the season for the 3 divisions... and this evening the Malta FA has managed (somehow) to sink to a new low with their decisions on the Premier League.

They have allowed bottom club Tarxien Rainbows to stay up, even though they were mathematically relegated when the season was halted... yet they have awarded the title to top club Floriana when they had a 3 point lead with 6 games remaining. Their form was not looking good while Valletta - in 2nd place - were on a great run.

Oh, and the celebrations by Floriana fans this evening were a disgrace... going against all laws about mass gathering, breaking social distancing... all a stone's throw from the nation's police HQ.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Amidst all this talk about how the EFL will finish the season for the 3 divisions... and this evening the Malta FA has managed (somehow) to sink to a new low with their decisions on the Premier League.

They have allowed bottom club Tarxien Rainbows to stay up, even though they were mathematically relegated when the season was halted... yet they have awarded the title to top club Floriana when they had a 3 point lead with 6 games remaining. Their form was not looking good while Valletta - in 2nd place - were on a great run.

Oh, and the celebrations by Floriana fans this evening were a disgrace... going against all laws about mass gathering, breaking social distancing... all a stone's throw from the nation's police HQ.

Do they still play most of the games at the Ta’Qali stadium? When my folks lived there we used to go quite often.

I was asked to trail for Tarxien many moons ago, was on a family holiday before my folks moved out there and i was having a kick about with my brothers and someone stopped and asked my dad if i could go training with them for a few days. Folks lived in St Andrews, I spent most nights on holiday in St Julians or Buggiba at clubs, also a great Restaurant in Madliena called Madliena Cottage

 

[overseas shrimper]

Do they still play most of the games at the Ta’Qali stadium? When my folks lived there we used to go quite often.

I was asked to trail for Tarxien many moons ago, was on a family holiday before my folks moved out there and i was having a kick about with my brothers and someone stopped and asked my dad if i could go training with them for a few days. Folks lived in St Andrews, I spent most nights on holiday in St Julians or Buggiba at clubs, also a great Restaurant in Madliena called Madliena Cottage

The 'bigger' games are played at Ta' Qali National Stadium. Then the 2 other grounds used mostly for Prem fixtures are the Centenary Stadium (literally across a narrow road from the afore mentioned) and Victor Tadesco ground in Hamrun.

Maddliena Cottage is still going. Quite a posh place now I believe.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

The 'bigger' games are played at Ta' Qali National Stadium. Then the 2 other grounds used mostly for Prem fixtures are the Centenary Stadium (literally across a narrow road from the afore mentioned) and Victor Tadesco ground in Hamrun.

Maddliena Cottage is still going. Quite a posh place now I believe.

Madlienas was for the time i guess back then

Hamrun Spartans they we’re the big team back then

anyway back on topic lol

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Reading this morning when i started work that AZ are contacting UEFA to see if they can interject on the decision to award Ajax the title, they are also considering legal options, one being under the banner of under FIFA and UEFA rules political decisions cannot interfere with football or something, have to be up front i am not up on that side of things.

Also see a french team is contacting their government and maybe UEFA to undo the decisions made there as they are now loosening up there country.

We may not be the only ones in turmoil soon ;) (notice the wink i say that tongue in cheek)

 

[Zeuss]

Really?
Posh have already fired a shot across the bows as far as that goes. And if we're assuming a first past the post vote: 13-10 will do it.

You’ve misunderstood here.
The majority 13 would happily accept that Coventry have done more than enough to be promoted and back this sensible solution.
Only 10 clubs,of whom most, like Peterborough, proclaim mythical hopes for some sort of ludicrous play-off set-up success.
Their chances of legal success would also be flimsy.
Not so Tranmere’s,the situation at the bottom end is highly debatable, even Blues fans are trying to present some sort of argument!

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Interesting tweet from CP

https://twitter.com/x/status/1265211673356521474

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

Reading this morning when i started work that AZ are contacting UEFA to see if they can interject on the decision to award Ajax the title, they are also considering legal options, one being under the banner of under FIFA and UEFA rules political decisions cannot interfere with football or something, have to be up front i am not up on that side of things.

Also see a french team is contacting their government and maybe UEFA to undo the decisions made there as they are now loosening up there country.

We may not be the only ones in turmoil soon ;) (notice the wink i say that tongue in cheek)

For further info on the situation of Lyon (in english!)

https://scroll.in/field/962956/coro...1-season-early-before-french-council-of-state

Haven't heard anything new about the situation of relegation with Toulouse and Amiens. Looks like, for many of the different Leagues, the more they try and tie up loose ends, the more they appear to tie themselves up in knots.

 

[Medway Blue]

Reading this morning when i started work that AZ are contacting UEFA to see if they can interject on the decision to award Ajax the title, they are also considering legal options, one being under the banner of under FIFA and UEFA rules political decisions cannot interfere with football or something, have to be up front i am not up on that side of things.

Also see a french team is contacting their government and maybe UEFA to undo the decisions made there as they are now loosening up there country.

We may not be the only ones in turmoil soon ;) (notice the wink i say that tongue in cheek)

They could possibly have a case, government interference in national football associations is punishable I believe. Didn’t Nigeria or some other African country get a fine and a ban from international competition because the Government forcibly removed the head of their FA?

Either way, but of a different situation here perhaps. Did the French govt directly tell the FFA that the season had to be cancelled? Or did the FFA take the French govts indirect announcement of no mass gatherings until September as carte blanche for them to make their own decision to cancel?

 

[Westcliff DGS]

They could possibly have a case, government interference in national football associations is punishable I believe. Didn’t Nigeria or some other African country get a fine and a ban from international competition because the Government forcibly removed the head of their FA?

Either way, but of a different situation here perhaps. Did the French govt directly tell the FFA that the season had to be cancelled? Or did the FFA take the French govts indirect announcement of no mass gatherings until September as carte blanche for them to make their own decision to cancel?

I was getting at that maybe our government didnt get involved for that reason?

will be interesting to see how this plays out, could be worse than here lol.

I am laughing as it is so laughable now and i am getting so fed up. I dread going to meetings lol

 

[southendkid]

Interesting tweet from CP

https://twitter.com/x/status/1265211673356521474

Bristol Rovers sticks out there since they have nothing to play for. The expectation that they'll want to carry on the season seems to be based on the fact their manager is relatively new and they were banking on their mid table position meaning he'd get a run of pressure free games to get to know the team, but surely the financial costs outweigh the benefits of that?

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

They could possibly have a case, government interference in national football associations is punishable I believe. Didn’t Nigeria or some other African country get a fine and a ban from international competition because the Government forcibly removed the head of their FA?

Either way, but of a different situation here perhaps. Did the French govt directly tell the FFA that the season had to be cancelled? Or did the FFA take the French govts indirect announcement of no mass gatherings until September as carte blanche for them to make their own decision to cancel?

As far as the FFA was concerned, I think it was the latter. Could that difference have important ramifications for how any legal action plays out?

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

Image two more vote to play on, but one didn’t vote so it’s 11 vs 11 to decide which option to go for ?

but playing on will cost clubs £400k each

 

[camden shrimper]

We should not vote straightaway and do a Dundee...

 

[kentblues]

Quite an interesting read

Legal challenges ‘inevitable’ after pandemic leaves mark on football calendar

As the end of May approaches and the Premier League continues to work on ‘Project Restart’, Adam Nelson examines the legal issues facing English football’s operating bodies as they push for football’s…

www.sportbusiness.com

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Quite an interesting read

Legal challenges ‘inevitable’ after pandemic leaves mark on football calendar

As the end of May approaches and the Premier League continues to work on ‘Project Restart’, Adam Nelson examines the legal issues facing English football’s operating bodies as they push for football’s…

www.sportbusiness.com

Is a good read.

if they play on the hiome and away i do not think any teams in the championship or Prem will take action. But i say that and think who knows as it is all about money and some will find something to look into to save the gravy train

 

[kentblues]

Is a good read.

if they play on the hiome and away i do not think any teams in the championship or Prem will take action. But i say that and think who knows as it is all about money and some will find something to look into to save the gravy train

If Prem and Championship complete that really minimises it I think.

The trouble they have more generally is that the EFL is a limited company and effectively the rules and regulations at the beginning of the season were a contract between them and the individual clubs.

If they then change those rules mid season and it adversely affects that club (e.g. Tranmere) then that club has a strong case. In simple terms they contract with each club that promotion and relegation would happen only if the season is completed and now they are saying something different- hence then Tranmere or whoever has a strong case in law per the article. (this we have known all along of course)

It is then further not helped by the EFL trying to make changes to their competition rules/articles mid season when those same rules/articles it appears provide that such changes can only be for the, or a, following season notwithstanding the above.

Its then further complicated by the argument that as a limited company the EFL is governed by the Companies Act that provides, it would seem, that such changes requires a 75% vote in favour (EFL know they can't get that so changed the requirement to 51%).

So all in all mess- as the article says probably now avoiding legal challenges is all but impossible. Still they don't have to present lawyers with such unnecessary open goals..

We shall see- they might somehow get lucky (although it would be luck they singularly don't deserve..)