Pre-Match Thread Nicky Bailey: To Boo or Not To Boo ??

[Sean 2]

A boo bailey thread. turns into a macca aint good enough to lace his boots sort of thread. On a public site...under mining a southend player that could read this. SAD

'Tis the way of the world these days. During these debates sometimes you start off at A and end up at Z many pages later and wonder how it ever became.
I like to think that Macca helped Bailey thrive with his tackling and covering and leadership, helping Bailey improve his game.
I don't remember Bailey being that great when he first joined Southend.

 

[OldBlueLady]

'Tis the way of the world these days. During these debates sometimes you start off at A and end up at Z many pages later and wonder how it ever became.
I like to think that Macca helped Bailey thrive with his tackling and covering and leadership, helping Bailey improve his game.
I don't remember Bailey being that great when he first joined Southend.

His first game I saw, which I think must've been a pre-season he was terrible and I remember thinking we were a step too high a level for him!

Come on guys, we've got a reputation for being a fun loving lot at away games, let's go for the fun aspect here. It's an insult in a way but in a good humoured way.

 

[Dick Bate's Protege]

I'd like to think that I'll be the bigger man and ignore Nicky 'I have a dream' Bailey, but the reality is, I wont. The freckly faced ****wit is gonna get it.

 

[GrumpyBlue]

What will you do Saturday ??

Option One: Clap one of the better midfielders ever to grace the shirt

Option Two: Ignore him, he is history and so we move on and save our energy for supporting the current lads

Option Three: Boo maniacally for 90 minutes*.... the way he conducted his last week at RH, saying he was injured etc .. yet playing for Charlton that weekend was utterly disgusting and an insult to our club........ oh and then throw dog poo at him in the car park after
* + Stoppage time obviously

Personally i'll go with 2, the first year Lee Hughes was here i booed non stop, result .. lose 1-0 (Hughes) .. next year i kept a lid on it for ages but in the end couldn't manage it and with us leading 1-0 launched into one of my famous foul-mouthed tirades .. result 1-2 (Hughes winner)

Bailey is a fantastic player who will be expecting a rough ride on Saturday and thus will be so up for ramming any taunts back with interest, and we all know exactly what he is capable of, if he's booed he'll score, if he is abused non-stop i fear he'll score a hat trick :'(

Sing up for Southend, and ignore the opposition is my shout :soapbox:

Who cares - concentrate on supporting the Blues

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

Who cares - concentrate on supporting the Blues

Exactly, it always irks me at home games when west stand v and w blocks start the 'is that all you take away' and 'your support is f*****g S***' chants. Complete waste of time, use your vocal chords to get behind the team with pro southend chants. Unfortunately you just know that on saturday someone will start a 'one greedy b******' and 'Nicky Bailey is a w*****' which others will join in, instead of singing 'southend till i die' or something similar.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

What someone does off the pitch is to me secondary to what they did on the pitch.

Bailey was fantastic on the pitch, and so will get a standing ovation from myself. He might have been a mercenary out for the money, but he outperformed, outran and out-tackled numerous players who are supposedly extremely loyal to Southend (not naming a former captain who was so loyal to Southend that he always turned down a move to Orient, after having secured that payrise from Southend first).

I'd take him back without hesitation over every single player that we currently have at the club.

Having seen you abuse a few opposition players in the past, I have to say you're one of the best at it that this club has. Ashley Bayes doesn't pop round for a chat any more I assume?

Only when DtS is out, I hear.

That's harsh and you know it - they complemented each other very well and both thrived that season as a result.

Complemented, as in one's exceptional play covered up a lot of weaknesses in the other's game. It didn't matter that McCormack's passing was poor, as Bailey would win the ball back. It didn't matter that McCormack is poor defensively, as Bailey would cover the ground of two players with his exceptional positioning and reading of the game.

So whilst it was harsh, it was also fair.

Who cares - concentrate on supporting the Blues

Is the correct answer.

 

[loz]

i find all the 'come on guys, let's just support our team' posts a bit smug/patronising to be honest. I'm well aware that booing or whatever isn't going to knock him off his game, and obviously i still intend to do all the cuddly supporting southend stuff. but god dammit, the guy ****ed me off royally and did so in one of the few arena's in life where you're allowed to very publically give someone crap (provided you pay for the privilege). If I'm £25 quid down for the day, i don't expect to be denied the simple pleasure of calling Nicky Bailey a ******...

 

[BoyWonder2]

What someone does off the pitch is to me secondary to what they did on the pitch.

Bailey was fantastic on the pitch, and so will get a standing ovation from myself. He might have been a mercenary out for the money, but he outperformed, outran and out-tackled numerous players who are supposedly extremely loyal to Southend (not naming a former captain who was so loyal to Southend that he always turned down a move to Orient, after having secured that payrise from Southend first).

I'd take him back without hesitation over every single player that we currently have at the club.

I normally agree with you on most things, but I can't agree with that.

Yes, I probably would take him back because he is a terrific footballer, and at times carried us a little bit but the way he acted to get his "dream move" was disgusting.

 

[Heskey]

Im all out with the Mooooooing him idea. All animal noises welcome and maybe abit of coughing! Any off putting noise without booing!

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I normally agree with you on most things, but I can't agree with that.

Yes, I probably would take him back because he is a terrific footballer, and at times carried us a little bit but the way he acted to get his "dream move" was disgusting.

What bits don't you agree with?

That what he did off the pitch is secondary to what he did on it?

That he didn't out-run, our-tackle and out-perform numerous other lesser players who probably thought but didn't say out loud the same things?

 

[Heskey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kwECkqm3VM Noises that Baileys mother makes!

 

[BoyWonder2]

What bits don't you agree with?

That what he did off the pitch is secondary to what he did on it?

That he didn't out-run, our-tackle and out-perform numerous other lesser players who probably thought but didn't say out loud the same things?

But I think what he did off the pitch, with the remarks he made, and suggesting it was unfair to play and feigning injury to prevent him from playing over shadows the good work he did on the pitch.

 

[Sean 2]

What someone does off the pitch is to me secondary to what they did on the pitch.

Bailey was fantastic on the pitch, and so will get a standing ovation from myself. He might have been a mercenary out for the money, but he outperformed, outran and out-tackled numerous players who are supposedly extremely loyal to Southend (not naming a former captain who was so loyal to Southend that he always turned down a move to Orient, after having secured that payrise from Southend first).

I'd take him back without hesitation over every single player that we currently have at the club.



Only when DtS is out, I hear.



Complemented, as in one's exceptional play covered up a lot of weaknesses in the other's game. It didn't matter that McCormack's passing was poor, as Bailey would win the ball back. It didn't matter that McCormack is poor defensively, as Bailey would cover the ground of two players with his exceptional positioning and reading of the game.

So whilst it was harsh, it was also fair.



Is the correct answer.

Here we go, anti-Macca yawnfest!

It constantly amazes me. Macca covered Bailey more so than the other way round, how do you think Bailey arrived in the box so late? Answer, he knew Macca was behind him and quite capable and not poor defensively as you put it, which is laughable.

In fact so laughable i'm gonna give you one of these Yorkie..:D
Cor blimey, right load of old tosh on this thread tonight.

 

[united we stand]

So a player wanted to leave a small club for a bigger club.

Sorry I really dont see the big deal.

I certainly have no hatred towards the guy, but thats not to say I didnt raise a smile when Charlton got relegated and his dream move went pear shaped lol.

All of the below are facts , not opinion and can be backed up by searches on the net

He said a move to Southend was his dream move
He was offered a new contract but turned it down (fair enough). He was then palced on the transfer list as we didn't want him to go on a free (fair enough) BUT he then says the club didn't want him and he was forced out.
Charlton are rummored to be interested but make no offical bid Bailey says it is a 'dream move'.
He refused to play as he said 'his head wasn't right and it wasn't fair (he was picked and got MOM)
He refused to play as he said it wasn't fair as he might get injured which would scupper his 'Dream Move' (Charlton scout watching him get MOM and officla bid is made)

Chalton get relegated. Bailey refuses to discuss his future and says he will have to see what happens
Bailey waits for his next 'dream move'
No one comes in for him and a couple of weeks before season starts Bailey pledges him self to Charlton becasue no one else has come in - opinion, not fact). The point of this , is that it shows he learnt nothing and still has no class.

And I' m sure there is stuff I have forgotten tha others can help out with.

And the bit that really really gets me , and I don't mind admitting it is this. We all love going on about Eastwood yet the fact of the matter is he has been a failure since he left us. Bailey was Charlton's top scorer last season . He scored 10 plus goals form midfield in a team that was relegated. He is picked every week, he is now captain, he gets great match reports,no doubt the Charlton supporters love him. He is a class player _ I disagree with those who say otherwise ( no I haven't backtrackeed- he is a class player, not a class person).

I would love to be able to take some pride in the fact that this player used to play for our Southend and I can't even do that. As has been said many times if he had left in different circumsances he would have got a standing ovation from many of us

 

[united we stand]

I was impressed by him and with his attitude when playing for us and even in his last game when he was clearly leaving he put in a good performance.

Charlton had not put in an official bid, Charlton chief scout was known to be attending- proven to be true), other scouts were rumoured to be attending.

Was his performance for Southend or for his 'dream move' ?

 

[Frankie the half breed]

he was only with us for a short time, he was the only player to score in the play offs against doncaster i say definetly don't boo him. don't blame him for going to charlton because charlton are favourites to go back up to the championship. but yeah, would of loved him to stay

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Here we go, anti-Macca yawnfest!

It constantly amazes me. Macca covered Bailey more so than the other way round, how do you think Bailey arrived in the box so late? Answer, he knew Macca was behind him and quite capable and not poor defensively as you put it, which is laughable.

In fact so laughable i'm gonna give you one of these Yorkie..:D
Cor blimey, right load of old tosh on this thread tonight.

McCormack is not a good defensive player. He may run around and kick people a lot, but he needs someone with good positional discipline and who can read the game to cover the defence. Bailey performed this role, much like Christophe currently performs this role. Without a Christophe (or Grant or Bailey) in midfield, the defence tends to be continually left exposed.

Bailey was a complete enough player that he could also pop up with a few goals - often from distance. The reason he could arrive in the box late was mainly due to his reading of the game. By arriving in the box late, he commits himself forward for only a short period of time. Bailey was also exceptional in getting back quickly and preventing the counter-attack. The other exceptional player at this in recent years was Mark Bentley. These two were always very quick to prevent a counterattack forming by sprinting back and, if necessary, fouling. I also think a fair few of Bailey's goals came earlier in the season when Maher was around. Maher played the same position as Bailey, although offering a very different skill-set to Bailey. Maher was another player to have partnered McCormack, and was again the defensive, deeper lying player in the partnership and the one better at reading the game.

McCormack is more in the under-rated Phil Gridelet mould, where his strength lies in running about and closing players higher up the pitch and then getting ahead of the ball (as opposed to making a late run, when you are behind the ball for most of the time). This means that it is the other midfield partner (Bailey/Whelan) who does most of the defensive covering.

Out of the two, Bailey was the class act. McCormack is a serviceable player, but the midfield was clearly carried by Bailey that season. I'm amazed that any of this is considered controversial.

 

[Shrimper2thecore]

Simple, boo and he will score

 

[Chaz SUFC]

Definately going to boo.

 

[Richard T]

united we stand Charlton had not put in an official bid, Charlton chief scout was known to be attending- proven to be true), other scouts were rumoured to be attending.

Was his performance for Southend or for his 'dream move' ?

His performances over a season and not one game was the reason he got his 'dream move' again !.

When he played his last match at Roots Hall he could probably have coasted through and still got his transfer that he clearly wanted so I remain impressed with his efforts throughout his time with the club.

His final performance was probably more for Nicky Bailey than anything else.

I like many other's wish he had dealt with his departure so much better but I will save my efforts for cheering on our present player's on Saturday rather than booing Bailey.