In all seriousness...

[TJC]

If a 10 year contract were offered to Tilly and Brush, I would be over the moon (if they accepted of course!)

 

[Sean 2]

If a 10 year contract were offered to Tilly and Brush, I would be over the moon (if they accepted of course!)

Get in there TJC:) Shall we run a poll for good measure??
Methinks a landslide victory entails for the Pro T+B Party.

 

[canveyshrimper]

Tilson in.

I don't much fancy returning to the days of us changing manager every 18 months whilst not actually going anywhere.

Agreed. There are other issues that should support continuity, what good does chopping and changing the manager actually do? It may have a short term effect in boosting results but rarely is that momentum maintained.

One thing that appears to have been overlooked in this thread is the youth policy we now have, and if Fossetts Farm becomes reality then this can be given academy status. It would also seem we have the best crop of youngsters at Roots Hall ever, as the run in the youth cup demonstrates. IMO this is something that only a long term management team can put in place. Examples being Ferguson at Man U & Wenger at Arsenal with their long term tenures and vision for the future of the club.

Those of you who want to return to our previous revolving door policy at Roots Hall should take some of the above points into account before wishing Tilly gone.

 

[Sean 2]

Agreed. There are other issues that should support continuity, what good does chopping and changing the manager actually do? It may have a short term effect in boosting results but rarely is that momentum maintained.

One thing that appears to have been overlooked in this thread is the youth policy we now have, and if Fossetts Fram becomes reality then this can be given academy status. It would also seem we have the best crop of youngsters at Roots Hall ever, as the run in the youth cup demonstrates. IMO this is something that only a long term management team can put in place. Examples being Ferguson at Man U & Wenger at Arsenal with their long term tenures and vision for the future of the club.

Those of you who want to return to our previous revolving door policy at Roots Hall should take some of the above points into account before wishing Tilly gone.

Yep,'tis true.
Who better to sort out our club than someone who knows where all the faults are??
Tilly and Brush kept us up and made us a success on a shoestring,now we are building for the future at last.
I wanna take my kids when they're older to a nice stadium and tell them who was responsible for it all,i bet they won't believe half the stories i tell them in 10 yrs.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Agreed. There are other issues that should support continuity, what good does chopping and changing the manager actually do? It may have a short term effect in boosting results but rarely is that momentum maintained.

One thing that appears to have been overlooked in this thread is the youth policy we now have, and if Fossetts Fram becomes reality then this can be given academy status. It would also seem we have the best crop of youngsters at Roots Hall ever, as the run in the youth cup demonstrates. IMO this is something that only a long term management team can put in place. Examples being Ferguson at Man U & Wenger at Arsenal with their long term tenures and vision for the future of the club.

Those of you who want to return to our previous revolving door policy at Roots Hall should take some of the above points into account before wishing Tilly gone.

On top of that, it's been proven (by football statisticians with far too much time on their hands) that the vast majority of managerial appointments make virtually no difference. We've appointed a mangaer who clearly has been able to make a difference (net benefit of being one division higher, plus two excellent LDV runs and a League Cup quarter final), so let's stick rather than twist please.

 

[Kenny]

One thing that appears to have been overlooked in this thread is the youth policy we now have, and if Fossetts Fram becomes reality then this can be given academy status. It would also seem we have the best crop of youngsters at Roots Hall ever, as the run in the youth cup demonstrates.

The futures bright if any of our youngsters finally break through, Heres an interesting quote from Peggy Lokando earlier in the season:

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"[Arsenal's] Steve Bould is an amazing coach," he says.

"He knows exactly what he's talking about and he knows how to talk to
you and get the best out of you.

"The coach here at Southend, Steve Tilson, reminds me of Bould, and he
likes his team to keep the ball down and play football, which is a
positive thing for me.

"The gaffer likes youth team players and he's offered eight or nine lads
contracts in the last two years, which says a lot about him.

"Perhaps I could have stayed at Arsenal and broken into the first team
way down the line, but I'd sooner be at Southend where I'm fifth in line
for my position and I know I'll get a chance."

 

[Rayleigh boy]

and despite everything Sir Steve keeps them playing decent football - and players and supporters appreciate that -

 

[canveyshrimper]

and despite everything Sir Steve keeps them playing decent football - and players and supporters appreciate that -

I'm not sure if that is the case with some "supporters".

 

[Kris]

The coach here at Southend, Steve Tilson, reminds me of Bould, and he
likes his team to keep the ball down and play football, which is a
positive thing for me.

And this is another aspect of Tilly's reign that is continually overlooked by some on here. Quite frankly, I think we've been spoilt rotten by the style of football on display since Tilly took over. We've always looked to play on the deck and in an entertaining way under him - even when we were struggling, both at the foot of League 2 and in the Championship last season. The fact our average attendance doubled and has remained very high since is a reflection of that.

It's true that Wignall did make some astute signings, and he deserves some credit for that, but for the most part his reign was characterised by a lack of organisation, shape and desire. As soon as Tilly took over, these problems were rectified within weeks and once he got in the right personnel, we soared up the table and then subsequently up the leagues.

If - perish the thought - Tilly was sacked, there's no guarantee his successor would continue with the stylish brand of football we currently play, and it's also worth remembering that Ron Martin's first choice to succeed Wignall was Ian Atkins... :eek:

 

[silentshrimper]

Mods cant you just close these stupid threads, they make the place look untidy,

O MY GOD WE HAVEN'T WON IN 3 OR SO GAMES, LETS SACK THE MANAGER AND THE BOARD, JUST BECAUSE ITS THE IN THING TO DO AT THE MOMENT.

Boring

 

[shrimperjon]

just for the record those that criticised my earlier comments. im not a fool or a glory hunter. i have supported the blues for 28 years and have seen 485 games. that i believe allows me to have an opinion, which is what this forum is about. we will never agree on everything. i made the point that tily has made a few bad signings in response to a comment that we have no money. he did spend money on paynter, harrold, ricketts etc that have not worked out. some of the subs and tactics are wrong and poor decisions have been made. i am not knocking what he has achieved and the success over the past few years has been the best in our history and im proud to have been there to see it. i just feel that we have not learnt from our errors from last season and someone has to be at fault for that....not just the players. i agree that what we witnessed at home to oldham and away boxing day was crazy and we had enough chances to have won four games let alone two and get only a draw from the two. tilson can not get blamed for that, i dont think i ever did blame him for those faults. we all want leon to sign but then he has probably cost us two victories with poor finishing. so b4 you come on here and question my background and loyalty mayb you should read the coments properly b4 slagging me off. i also said that i would support tilly all the time hes in the job and like many supporters on here are just stating facts. no manager is bigger than the club and all good times come to an end.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Mods cant you just close these stupid threads, they make the place look untidy,

O MY GOD WE HAVEN'T WON IN 3 OR SO GAMES, LETS SACK THE MANAGER AND THE BOARD, JUST BECAUSE ITS THE IN THING TO DO AT THE MOMENT.

Boring

I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been tempted, but no. It is a case of going over the same old ground, but there's some interesting points being put across by those who feel Tilson should go, even though I personally don't agree with them.

 

[Sean 2]

I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been tempted, but no. It is a case of going over the same old ground, but there's some interesting points being put across by those who feel Tilson should go, even though I personally don't agree with them.

I would say there's some interesting points being put over by those who feel Tilson should STAY,every time this topic is brought up more and varied reasons are given for management stability in the current climate.
In fact,recently we've seen some good debates on the issue.

 

[Uncle Leo]

I would say there's some interesting points being put over by those who feel Tilson should STAY,every time this topic is brought up more and varied reasons are given for management stability in the current climate.
In fact,recently we've seen some good debates on the issue.

Exactly. As long as the posts are well argued - on both sides - and it doesn't descend in to tit for tat nonsense then it's all good.

Tilson in!

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Tilson in.

I don't much fancy returning to the days of us changing manager every 18 months whilst not actually going anywhere.

Correction: whilst sliding inexorably towards extinction.

Tilson in, for heaven's sake. I can't believe that after a couple of wobbles in recent weeks, some people are suggesting we get rid of one of the most successful managers we've ever seen at Roots Hall.

What is wrong with you people? Chill out, and put your Destination Championship DVD on. Or a DVD of the night we beat Man U. Or a DVD of our play-off win...

:thump:

 

[Shrimp Shady]

Tilson IN.........without a doubt!!!

We need stability around the club.....something we didn't have pre the Tilson/Brush era.

I'm certainly not saying that I agree with some of Tilly's tactics of late, and it does concern me with the lateness (or lack) of substitutions but the team are as much to blame as the coaching staff!

I know I'll probably get slated for saying this but I really think that not going up this season wouldn't be much of a disaster.......especially if we were to keep going up and down each year.

If we were lying near or at the foot of the table at the end of the season, in a terrible financial state and no future for the club then maybe a change would be a good thing........but we're not!

We haven't really had a good consistent run going yet so hopefully that time will come in the new year and things will all be looking rosy again!

 

[EnglandShrimper]

I have read what most of you have posted and we are going nowhere with Tilson. He got us up to the Champ, fine, but he also took us back again and now we look clueless.

Tilson out.

 

[EugeneBob]

I have read what most of you have posted and we are going nowhere with Tilson. He got us up to the Champ, fine, but he also took us back again and now we look clueless.

Tilson out.

But the rest of us have read what you have posted and feel you've given very few valid arguments as to what a change would achieve and failed to convince me at least that the incumbant management team are doing anything other than a sterling job.

Tilson well and truly IN!

 

[Beefy]

I have read what most of you have posted and we are going nowhere with Tilson. He got us up to the Champ, fine, but he also took us back again and now we look clueless.

Tilson out.

But he also took us from League Two to League One. So it's hardly fair to say that he's taken us "back again".

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I have read what most of you have posted and we are going nowhere with Tilson. He got us up to the Champ, fine, but he also took us back again and now we look clueless.

Tilson out.

I am shocked to see that you joined Shrimperzone in September 2007.

I thought with your rich appreciation of the club's history and standing in the great scheme of things, that you would have been a supporter and member of Shrimperzone since at least November 2006.