General Boxing Thread

[Ricey]

Have you heard any rumours of who they are lining up for the next Haye and Joshua fights yet?

 

[GBJ]

Back to domestic issues. Highly odd that Chisora backed out of the AJ fight. He'll now face Pulev for a European title.

This could be the end of the road for Chisora. Can't see him beating Pulev. Then there's really nowhere left to go after that. Kalle Sauerland said its down to money, (Hearn not offering enough) but I struggle to believe he's getting paid more for a bout with Pulev, over an all-British PPV fight, which will of course be hyped to death by Sky.

The only logical explanation for it, is he thinks he can beat Pulev, and then face AJ later in the year. Which of course. as the European champ, he'd carry more negotiation weight

 

[GBJ]

If that is the case, it Seems very high-risk for Chisora, with very marginal reward.

As for Haye, I'm not sure. After his incredible & shocking win against De Mori, the WBA (We Belt Anyone) have given him a top 10 ranking, so I'd assume he'll face someone in their list. Maybe Ustinov. But that's a pure guess on my part

 

[Ricey]

If that is the case, it Seems very high-risk for Chisora, with very marginal reward.

As for Haye, I'm not sure. After his incredible & shocking win against De Mori, the WBA (We Belt Anyone) have given him a top 10 ranking, so I'd assume he'll face someone in their list. Maybe Ustinov. But that's a pure guess on my part

Both have dates booked at the o2 already for their next fights. Same as Brook having Wembley booked with the hope of an amazing bout against Khan.

 

[Ricey]

Eddie Hearn saying they will be announcing AJ's next opponent by the end of the week.

 

[GBJ]

Both have dates booked at the o2 already for their next fights. Same as Brook having Wembley booked with the hope of an amazing bout against Khan.

Yeach I've already got tickets earmarked for April 9th. Hearn had chucked names like Takam, Stiverne & Jennings about, as potential opponents for April, but I can't see it being any of them, as they're far too big of a test. I fully expected Chisora, so now it's anyone's guess. It'll probably be Duhaupas. Or Tony Thompson. Or some fat Latvian cab driver, that no-ones ever heard of.

Sadly, Hearn could put on an event, where AJ headlined on his own in the ring & simply shadowboxed for 12 rounds. Sky would hype the **** out of it & the casuals would lap it up. That's the level we're at. I wish Hearn would stop trotting out name after name, and promising big fights, only to put him in with tomato cans.

 

[Ricey]

Yeach I've already got tickets earmarked for April 9th. Hearn had chucked names like Takam, Stiverne & Jennings about, as potential opponents for April, but I can't see it being any of them, as they're far too big of a test. I fully expected Chisora, so now it's anyone's guess. It'll probably be Duhaupas. Or Tony Thompson. Or some fat Latvian cab driver, that no-ones ever heard of.

Sadly, Hearn could put on an event, where AJ headlined on his own in the ring & simply shadowboxed for 12 rounds. Sky would hype the **** out of it & the casuals would lap it up. That's the level we're at. I wish Hearn would stop trotting out name after name, and promising big fights, only to put him in with tomato cans.

I think with both their next fights very close to each other. Both Haye and AJ will fight bums/not great opponents and then fight each other in their next fight. Unless Chisora wins his fight against Pulev then Chisora will want AJ. I'm hoping to go to the fight on the 9th too. Just hope he gets a decent opponent to fight. I also have the 4th of June pencilled in hoping Brook fights Khan!

 

[GBJ]

I think with both their next fights very close to each other. Both Haye and AJ will fight bums/not great opponents and then fight each other in their next fight. Unless Chisora wins his fight against Pulev then Chisora will want AJ. I'm hoping to go to the fight on the 9th too. Just hope he gets a decent opponent to fight. I also have the 4th of June pencilled in hoping Brook fights Khan!

Haye certainly, and probably AJ aswell. As I eluded to, because of his popularity amoungst casual fans, Hearn knows he can throw him in with anyone & still make it PPV. Which is basically mugging off the hardcore fans, but as long as he's still making money, he doesn't care.

As much as I dislike Haye, I'd love to see him and AJ by the end of the year. But in reality, I honestly don't think there's any chance. At least Joshua is still being realistic. He himself has said he thinks he's still four fights away from facing World/Elite level opponents. That's a rough timeline of next summer. The hype from Eddie & his crackpot father is laughable.

 

[Ricey]

Khan's blagged himself a fight against Saul Alvarez in Vegas on the 7th May. For the WBC middleweight title, think someone is going to get their arse handed to them.

Shame the Brook Khan fight won't happen on the 4th of June now.

 

[GBJ]

Wow. No-one saw that coming. It's now easy to understand why Khan wasn't interested in the Brook fight. He's put himself in a win/win scenario with this fight. Even if he loses, He can/will earn double, if not triple what he was offered to face Brook, but he can still face Brook next summer.

Styles make fights as they say, and this could be a cracker. Certainly pace & movement are the way to beat Canelo. He's solid, but couldn't handle Floyd at all. Khan has the speed & movement to beat him, but I doubt he'll be able to take Canelo'power.

Great fight. Hearn needs to take note from Al Haymon. Stop striping up the fans & deliver big fights, constantly

 

[Ricey]

Also on the same day as Fury vs Klitschko II.

 

[GBJ]

Also on the same day as Fury vs Klitschko II.

Would imagine Sky will pick it all up as a Double feature. Eddie will possibly even put on a small show in this country, to use as an undercard, like we've seen before.

 

[Ricey]

Would imagine Sky will pick it all up as a Double feature. Eddie will possibly even put on a small show in this country, to use as an undercard, like we've seen before.

Bloody hope so as I don't want to fork out for two box office fights.

 

[GBJ]

Is just occurred to me, imagine IF Khan managed to get the win over Canelo, I'd have thought that would makes his next opponent Golovkin :stunned:

 

[GBJ]

Bloody hope so as I don't want to fork out for two box office fights.

Even Sky wouldn't try something that snidey. Well, I don't think, anyway. I'd fancy Sky to pick up both, but can't rule out Boxnation grabbing one

 

[Ricey]

Is just occurred to me, imagine IF Khan managed to get the win over Canelo, I'd have thought that would makes his next opponent Golovkin :stunned:

Golovkin would destroy Khan! But that won't happen because he is not getting past Alvarez.

 

[GBJ]

Golovkin would destroy Khan! But that won't happen because he is not getting past Alvarez.

See, I DO give Khan a chance against Canelo. The Mexican isn't blessed with the best footwork. At times it's like he's competing in concrete boots. He struggled at times against Cotto's movement & simply couldn't handle Floyd's. If Khan can move around quickly, and smoothly, he can win rounds. It's just a question of will his glass jaw hold out, if/when Canelo eventually backs him up & lands flush. I can't see that. But I do give him a chance.

This sort of reminds me of that bout back in 2008(?) when the great Oscar De La Hoya was pitted against the little Phillipino. Everyone wrote off Manny's chances, due to the size difference. I think Pac had jumped 2 weight classes for that fight. And look how that turned out. His speed & precision was the key.

 

[Blue_Wes]

See, I DO give Khan a chance against Canelo. The Mexican isn't blessed with the best footwork. At times it's like he's competing in concrete boots. He struggled at times against Cotto's movement & simply couldn't handle Floyd's. If Khan can move around quickly, and smoothly, he can win rounds. It's just a question of will his glass jaw hold out, if/when Canelo eventually backs him up & lands flush. I can't see that. But I do give him a chance.

This sort of reminds me of that bout back in 2008(?) when the great Oscar De La Hoya was pitted against the little Phillipino. Everyone wrote off Manny's chances, due to the size difference. I think Pac had jumped 2 weight classes for that fight. And look how that turned out. His speed & precision was the key.

I've been one of Khan biggest detracters, but I've always maintained his resume is great, and credit where credit is due. Khan has pulled out a blinder here, killed the scared to fight story re: Brook, Canelo is far more dangerous, b) got a massive pay day, the Mexican pay per view audience on Cinco de Mayo is going to be phenomenal, and then the first firght at Vegas' new stadium. Well played Amir.

Whilst I thinkg GBJ's fight plan would work for Khan (great MP/ODH comparison), I just think he'll struggle with the discipline, at some point, he'll try and fight, and that'll be that his downfall. Still, a good fight to look forward to at last.

 

[Ricey]

Fury talking about maybe retiring and not having the rematch with Klitschko.

 

[Blue_Wes]

Fury talking about maybe retiring and not having the rematch with Klitschko.

He wants to be able to spend the rest of his life claiming he's the best ever. If he carries on fighting, he'll get beat more than once. This way he can falsely claim he's the greatest, won the title and retired unbeaten. I can even hear him saying it now.