Freddy's Had Enough!!!

[Rayleigh boy]

this sounds rather likethe Vicar of Dibley being all serious -
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Rayleigh Boy, My football writing has produced letters of complaint and derisory emails from every corner of this planet, but I can say with some justification that yours is right up there in the top three! That is superb!

thank you Slippeduke - I am glad you take this with the good humour it was meant -

I do always think a manager has failed if cannot get the full potential out of a player -

 

[EastStandBlue]

all this bollox about "attitude" really effing sickens me ..... its all a load of cobblers ...

eh?

Surely you must've witnessed Eastwood stroll around Roots Hall from November onwards? He gradually got worse as the season went on after he failed to secure a move in January. Both Tilson and Martin have come out since he left saying he developed an attitude problem towards the end of his stay and became an egotistical nightmare to have around... There were reports of the players saying the same.

He secures his money move to Wolves and initially settles in, but as soon as he falls out with McCarthy he's in the papers again, this time having smashed 7 shades of sh*t out of someone in Bas Vegas.

What utterly depresses me about Eastwood is the amount of natural ability he has, coupled with who we had to partner him when he was here. In League One, we had Goater. A model professional worshipped as a hero in both Bermuda and in this country. He improved Eastwood immensely IMO and we reaped the profits towards the end of the season...

In The Championship we had Rickett's, the archetypal waster who's wasted his career and proved to be nothing more than a flash in the pan. As thick as footballers are, I don't think anybody would choose a life of Rickett's over Goater's extraordinary career.

Now we can all appreciate the blame isn't entirely at Eastwood's door. MM is a stubborn manager who wants players to play in a specific role and it isn't working for him. The shadows are looming over Molineux and IMO it won't be long before he becomes Unlucky number 14 of Managers sacked this year.

The boy needs to take a long hard look at himself, knuckle down and work hard at it... Or he runs the risk of joining Rickett's on the scrapheap.

I fear he's already half way there... Broke his hand because a keeper fell on it? My f*cking **** he did...

 

[Mrs P]

he gave me a lot of pleasure and moments of ecstacy -

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Me too at times - although not in his last 4 months with us...

I dont doubt his ability in his early career with us & even agree Wolves was a bad bad move for him BUT you cant blame McCarthy entirely....

Gazza was a genius early on - who ruined his career??? He did....

 

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

if we got promoted... would you take him back!?

Not at all.....attitude is all wrong....move fowards not back

 

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

he gave me a lot of pleasure and moments of ecstacy -

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Rich wants his laminated A1 size pics of Freddy back now mate

 

[OldBlueLady]

Ricketts and Freddy never had the chance to forge any kind of partnership. It could have worked, but we'll never know. It's such a shame to see what's happened to Fred, for me MMc must take the majority of the blame here, but didn't we all say he'd have been better off with a move to Charlton or even Norwich? Wolves was just a step too far out of his comfort zone, however much he was welcomed by the fans.

I hope he gets a move to a club that will help him to grow sensibly into a mature professional, and not follow the waywardness of some who have fallen by the wayside. He needs a strong but understanding manager, anyone any ideas?

 

[Jam_Man]

I wonder if McCarthy ever saw Eastwood play. He's taken a rare talent and tried to turn him into something else - a workhorse who runs the channells and brings others into the game. Such a waste.

Hear hear.

That seems to be most peoples criticism of Freddy on here too, even when he was here.

I was always happy with Freddys work rate, I didnt want him chasing lost balls for 90 minutes, I wanted him to use energy for when he had the ball.

Mcarthy would probably have dropped Thierry Henry as well, he was far "lazier" than Freddy (a comparison Ive used 34 times now!).

I would have Eastwood back in an instant but he will get another Championship club easily.

 

[Kris]

Although I don't deny that Freddy has probably developed an ego during his rise to fame, I still think that the criticism of his decline in form post-Man U is largely unjustified. Freddy has always played in a very casual manner but no-one ever complained initially because he was banging in the goals.

Last year he was playing in a side that relied on him more than ever and Championship teams realised that they could afford to double or even triple mark him because they knew he was largely the only threat. I personally didn't see any less effort after the Man U game; he merely struggled because he was playing in a poor team and being marked out of games.

As for his Wolves form, he's barely had a sniff since August and I know a couple of Wolves fans who couldn't believe he was dropped in the first place because he scored four goals in his first five games and looked by far the biggest goal threat.

I know Mick McCarthy is an easy target but I would argue he is a justified one because he should have known Freddy's style of play before he bought him. If he wanted a forward with a die-hard work ethic he should have looked elsewhere.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Wolves was just a step too far out of his comfort zone, however much he was welcomed by the fans.

what do you mean, Wolverhampton has a massive traveller population, in fact some of the Dale Farm group have dual addresses one at Dale Farm and the other in the Black Country. So I am sure it was not such a bad place for him to go.

 

[OldBlueLady]

what do you mean, Wolverhampton has a massive traveller population, in fact some of the Dale Farm group have dual addresses one at Dale Farm and the other in the Black Country. So I am sure it was not such a bad place for him to go.

I meant quite literally in distance.

 

[Jam_Man]

Although I don't deny that Freddy has probably developed an ego during his rise to fame, I still think that the criticism of his decline in form post-Man U is largely unjustified. Freddy has always played in a very casual manner but no-one ever complained initially because he was banging in the goals.

Indeed.

He got slated for being lazy throughout last season yet whenever he scored no one mentioned his laziness in any of the post game reports.

He is a caual player who doesnt chase down the ball enough, but theres plenty of strikers who dont.

I think people make far more of his attitude and laziness because he finished off his time with us when we went down and the expectation was he should still be scoring goals. Freddy running around more wouldnt have led to any more goals as we were toilet half the season.

He was no more lazy than when we were in league one, Tilson made a point of it that season saying he needed to work harder back then.

His attitude may have changed towards the end as he looked to the future but I dont remember his performances getting particularly worse.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Kris and Jam_Man, I think it is time to dust down the DVDs and watch him again, you will see a marked difference between the first 2 seasons when he was hungry and the last 4 months. It is not just the casual nature but his whole body language, this speaks louder than nostalgia

 

[haveaguiness]

has anyone realised aswell that the 3 years eastwood was here, apart from him being far betterthan anyone else, Captain Kev was probably our best other player.

This is because they are the only two they are of good enough quality to play at a higher level in our team. This season maher has been one of our poorer players, because he no longer has eastwood to make runs for him and everything.

This shows eastwoods class and that he is defiently far too good for us and anyone that says otherwise clearly doesnt watch enough football. Eastwood will never return to southend, unless its for his last year or summit. so we shoudl just give up on trying to even think tilly will try and sign him back.

He is easily good enough for a championship side, even the wolves fans say they would rather sack macarthy and keep eastwood, so that says it all!

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Hear hear.

I was always happy with Freddys work rate, I didnt want him chasing lost balls for 90 minutes, I wanted him to use energy for when he had the ball.

Mcarthy would probably have dropped Thierry Henry as well, he was far "lazier" than Freddy (a comparison Ive used 34 times now!).

I would have Eastwood back in an instant but he will get another Championship club easily.

BANG on - I am not alone -

50 + posts on Freddy cos hes probabley the most exciting player to wear the shirt since blah blah -

can't stand it when his talent is diminshed by people -

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Stan wasn't exactly renowned for running the channels and harrying defenders, he even admitted it himself. Freddy's the same sort of player. McCarthy is just a "straight-talking" northern git, who has got be one of the luckiest guys alive to have managed the teams that he has, and he deserves the sack if they lose against Blackpool.

 

[Slipperduke]

BANG on - I am not alone -

50 + posts on Freddy cos hes probabley the most exciting player to wear the shirt since blah blah -

can't stand it when his talent is diminshed by people -

I don't think many people are diminishing his talent, I'm certainly not. He's the second best player I've ever seen at Roots Hall.

It's the fact that if he'd not behaved like such a tit last season, we'd still be up in the second division and he'd be in the Premier League!

Here endeth the sermon!

Right, I'm off to the Market Porter in 10mins, see you all there!

 

[Kris]

Kris and Jam_Man, I think it is time to dust down the DVDs and watch him again, you will see a marked difference between the first 2 seasons when he was hungry and the last 4 months. It is not just the casual nature but his whole body language, this speaks louder than nostalgia

DVD highlights always provide a somewhat distorted perception of history, though. For example, Wayne Gray looks a quality player if you go through our promotion-winning DVDs when the reality is that most of the time he was pretty mediocre with only occasional flashes of brilliance.

I watched nearly every single home game during our rise from League 2 into the Championship and I genuinely didn't spot any changes in his manner throughout that time.

 

[Jam_Man]

Kris and Jam_Man, I think it is time to dust down the DVDs and watch him again, you will see a marked difference between the first 2 seasons when he was hungry and the last 4 months. It is not just the casual nature but his whole body language, this speaks louder than nostalgia

It not nostalgia, I used to make these same points during that last season when I was watching him week in and week out.

For someone who didnt "care" he used to get extremely frustrated and disapointed when we lost....

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It's the fact that if he'd not behaved like such a tit last season, we'd still be up in the second division and he'd be in the Premier League!

Here endeth the sermon!

There lies the reasons for some peoples negative attitude against him.

He didnt single handedly win us enough games so we went down, its all Freddys fault.

He scored 16 goals or whatever it was and had to create most of them himself from 30 yards out but that still wasnt enough.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I don't think many people are diminishing his talent, I'm certainly not. He's the second best player I've ever seen at Roots Hall.

It's the fact that if he'd not behaved like such a tit last season, we'd still be up in the second division and he'd be in the Premier League!

Here endeth the sermon!

Right, I'm off to the Market Porter in 10mins, see you all there!

Disagree, but we can have this conversation over a pint, as I'll be there in about 45 minutes!

 

[Mrs P]

I don't think many people are diminishing his talent, I'm certainly not. He's the second best player I've ever seen at Roots Hall.

It's the fact that if he'd not behaved like such a tit last season, we'd still be up in the second division and he'd be in the Premier League!

Here endeth the sermon!

Right, I'm off to the Market Porter in 10mins, see you all there!

Agree with you totally!!!