Freddy's Had Enough!!!

[Bob Cratchitt]

But he didn't actually score 20 goals last season did he?
Therefore the only years he scored 20+ goals were the 2 promotion years.

Ignorance is no excuse (the rivals.net writer, not you)!

Exactly, I am still to be convinced that Freddy is a Championship quality striker, he played well for us at League 1 and 2 level but he struggled to deal with Championship defences. He has not scored since August* which is the same month Harrold last scored from open play for the 1st team.


*Stats based on www.soccerbase.com

 

[Cliff Pavilion]

Sad as it may appear to some on here Freddy is not Championship class - either in ability or, more importantly, attitude.

I think that's harsh ORM, certainly on the ability. Freddy is an incredibly gifted and intelligent footballer, one that will flourish at a higher level given the opportunity. He was often too clever in our team with his range of passing and vision for others to keep up with... maybe why most of his goals are solo efforts!

There is clearly something array with his attitude though, as there was with Collymore. I'd love to see Freddy work with someone like Martin O'Neill for instance. It would be fantastic to see Freddy work with a good man-manager, and someone with patience, because the long term rewards that manager will receive will make it worth it.

 

[Pubey]

Exactly, I am still to be convinced that Freddy is a Championship quality striker, he played well for us at League 1 and 2 level but he struggled to deal with Championship defences. He has not scored since August* which is the same month Harrold last scored from open play for the 1st team.


*Stats based on www.soccerbase.com

funny how he is still good enough for wales though. i think he needs support from his team mates, and to respect both his team mates and manager. i think he is championship class... but that doesn't necessarily mean he will do well in the championship. he needs a decent team around him and the attitude for him to be a team player.

 

[Slipperduke]

Frankly, I'm not in the least surprised. As far as his innate ability goes, I'd put him in the same bracket as Jeremie Aliadiere or Robert Earnshaw. He's a striker who, in the right circumstances, should just about be able to hold down a place in a struggling Premier League side.

Unfortunately, in terms of attitude, he's a right ****.

If he'd have knuckled down after Manchester United, he'd have got that Premier League move, have no doubt about it. The scouts were filling up the East Stand, reporting back. But, no. He decided to get all Bertie Big Bollocks and they filed their reports accordingly.

He went to Wolves because, as the complete package, that's all he's worth. In fact, he's now finding out that perhaps he's not even worth that. Mick McCarthy is a proven manager at club and international level and he knows his onions (Sunderland's annus horibilis aside, obviously).

I think they may be a point in Eastwood's life where he regrets his behaviour in the last year.

 

[J]

Not sufc related.

 

[Cliff Pavilion]

Exactly, I am still to be convinced that Freddy is a Championship quality striker, he played well for us at League 1 and 2 level but he struggled to deal with Championship defences.

He has never played in a good team that has created chances for him. Even his goals in League 1 and 2 were solo efforts a lot of the time. Of course, in his first season in The Championship, both he (and Tilly) soon realised that he was no longer going to be able to dance around defences for fun anymore.

Arguably neither of them developed a Plan B last year. And from Eastwood's point of view, this is arguably because he never had the quality of player around him to either produce chances for him or him to produce chances for.

 

[* ORM *]

I think that's harsh ORM, certainly on the ability. Freddy is an incredibly gifted and intelligent footballer, one that will flourish at a higher level given the opportunity. He was often too clever in our team with his range of passing and vision for others to keep up with... maybe why most of his goals are solo efforts!

There is clearly something array with his attitude though, as there was with Collymore. I'd love to see Freddy work with someone like Martin O'Neill for instance. It would be fantastic to see Freddy work with a good man-manager, and someone with patience, because the long term rewards that manager will receive will make it worth it.

That's the point though - there is much more than raw ability (he has that in spades) that is needed to make it as a professional footballer (attitude and a footballing brain for starters) and many fall by the wayside. West Ham may not have been as stupid as they seemed to reject him.

 

[turkishm]

I heard a rumour that he hit McCarthy (allegedly!!!!) so you can maybe see why he doesnt want him around....

His attitude has caused his career to go dowhill - he is the only one to blame!!

If he had carried on playing for us the last 4 months he was here - we may not have gone down - but instead he sulked cos no big move had come about!! Is that a professional attitude????

And No - dont bring him back here - those last four months showed how he plays when he doesnt want to be somewhere and just wants his wages!!!!

All this sulking and attitude problems, i dont know people how people get all this imformation. Look McCarthy not playing him so he aint gona score is he. How any manager can sign a proven striker, and then put him on the bench all season, is beyond me. I would not have McCarthy running a marble match.

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

I think that's harsh ORM, certainly on the ability. Freddy is an incredibly gifted and intelligent footballer, one that will flourish at a higher level given the opportunity. He was often too clever in our team with his range of passing and vision for others to keep up with... maybe why most of his goals are solo efforts!

There is clearly something array with his attitude though, as there was with Collymore. I'd love to see Freddy work with someone like Martin O'Neill for instance. It would be fantastic to see Freddy work with a good man-manager, and someone with patience, because the long term rewards that manager will receive will make it worth it.

Spot on. Hence why I was advocating a move to Ipswich for Fred in the transfer window. The way Magilton has them playing plus the fact he seems a very good man-manager would prove, IMHO, how dangerous Eastwood could be at Championship level. I guess the extra cash then had to shell out on Norris from Plymouth maybe halted any potential move for Freddy.

 

[Mrs P]

All this sulking and attitude problems, i dont know people how people get all this imformation. Look McCarthy not playing him so he aint gona score is he. How any manager can sign a proven striker, and then put him on the bench all season, is beyond me. I would not have McCarthy running a marble match.

Think its fairly common knowledge around this area that Freddy likes a scrap... and used to give it the big un and run away from taxi fares every weekend...

A mate of mine showed him a SUFC tattoo out one night and Freddy told him in no uncertain terms to 'F**k off'

 

[Rayleigh boy]

all this bollox about "attitude" really effing sickens me ..... its all a load of cobblers ...

and as for defending MM - the man is a complete liability in the middle of destroying another football club

- really its not about being headboy and wearing a tie its about scoring goals in profesional football somethingthat not many can do -

Wayne Rooney - love his attitude - Gary Lineker loved his attitude - Ian Wright loved his attitude - Freddy eastwood love his attiuitude -

want a hard working donkey - go and watch some ****e team manged by a two faced loser like McCarthey .....

 

[Rayleigh boy]

what do ****e managers do when they are in the ****e - blame the players "attitude "....

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come on Blackpool....

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Frankly, I'm not in the least surprised. As far as his innate ability goes, I'd put him in the same bracket as Jeremie Aliadiere or Robert Earnshaw. He's a striker who, in the right circumstances, should just about be able to hold down a place in a struggling Premier League side.

Unfortunately, in terms of attitude, he's a right ****.

If he'd have knuckled down after Manchester United, he'd have got that Premier League move, have no doubt about it. The scouts were filling up the East Stand, reporting back. But, no. He decided to get all Bertie Big Bollocks and they filed their reports accordingly.

He went to Wolves because, as the complete package, that's all he's worth. In fact, he's now finding out that perhaps he's not even worth that. Mick McCarthy is a proven manager at club and international level and he knows his onions (Sunderland's annus horibilis aside, obviously).

I think they may be a point in Eastwood's life where he regrets his behaviour in the last year.

this sounds rather likethe Vicar of Dibley being all serious -

if he wasn't the man he is he wouldn't have put down the ball in front of Man U and thought - "I'll bury this" -

 

[Mrs P]

this sounds rather likethe Vicar of Dibley being all serious -

if he wasn't the man he is he wouldn't have put down the ball in front of Man U and thought - "I'll bury this" -

Rayleigh Boy

Do you LOVE him??????????????????:p :p

 

[Slipperduke]

this sounds rather likethe Vicar of Dibley being all serious -
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Rayleigh Boy, My football writing has produced letters of complaint and derisory emails from every corner of this planet, but I can say with some justification that yours is right up there in the top three! That is superb!

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

That's the point though - there is much more than raw ability (he has that in spades) that is needed to make it as a professional footballer (attitude and a footballing brain for starters) and many fall by the wayside. West Ham may not have been as stupid as they seemed to reject him.

If you don't think Freddy has a footballing brain you are even more delusional than I thought. If a few more of his team mates had matched his footballing intelligence last season then they may have given him some service and we might have stayed up.

As for his attitude, you may be right, but I still think Mick McCarthy is an ****.

 

[Beefy]

I wonder if McCarthy ever saw Eastwood play. He's taken a rare talent and tried to turn him into something else - a workhorse who runs the channells and brings others into the game. Such a waste.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

funny how he is still good enough for wales though.

:D

Now if that was Scotland or England I would give that comment credence, Wales are not flushed with top class players, so they tend to take more risks on players from lower leagues. Also when was the last time he scored for Wales?

As ORM pointed out, I believe that he has raw talent but so far he has not shown up to be of Championship standard IMHO. Two seasons there, two teams and the excuse is that he does not have good enough players around him.

I want him to do well, but at the moment I just cannot see it happening, the right attitude is everything.

 

[Beefy]

he played well for us at League 1 and 2 level but he struggled to deal with Championship defences. [/url]

Well he struggled to deal with having two or three defenders on him at all times, certainly. But that was down to how inept the rest of our team were at that level.

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Rayleigh Boy

Do you LOVE him??????????????????:p :p

he gave me a lot of pleasure and moments of ecstacy -

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