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Not a lot managers can do when the players persistently persevered with his attitude problem. Too many managers listed for it to come under bad management. A coincidence in the extreme if it was.
 
Most strikers would soon look disinterested when high balls are continually pinged up by the defence right onto the oppositions centre backs foreheads for 90 minutes. What are our forwards supposed to do with that ?

...We really only have looked a dangerous team when Cresswell is pushed up there .... When Corr gets fit all the better but with our system we MUST play a big man /small man combo. Its blatantly obvious it 's not being held up + nothing is getting flicked on + because our wide men dont actually play wide there are no options for the man on the ball but to fire another aimless punt onto defenders who cannot believe their luck.

We actually look worse than the Highland League match i went to 2 weeks ago . They were a combination of old beer bellys and teenagers but my golly did they ping the ball about quickly all along the floor , runs off the ball aplenty , players getting the ball , turning and Actually taking a player on ... it was like a breath of fresh air . It finished 4 - 4 and was the best game i have seen for many years .... hey ho , maybe we can scrape a lucky scrappy 1.0 cup win on Saturday ....
 
I'm not a regular poster on here, but I do appreciate how passionately a lot of you feel about our club. I also understand that the forum needs these type of discussions to work. But if you think Freddy Eastwood will be at his best when he hardly had a pre-season and has started probably less games than I can count on one finger (I'm sure someone will give me the exact figure) then I'm afraid you will be disappointed. I'll ignore the smart arse comments about doctors and what not, and simply say when I've played only a handful of games, wether it's Saturdays or University league, which I currently am, then I'm not very good, and I was ***** this weekend!! I'm sure in a few weeks ill be sharper and fitter and as a result play better. It's clearly exactly the same at a professional level. You all cry for the lad to start, and because he had an off day and looked unfit, half pfmyou are coming out with these absolutely daft shouts. If you don't think Freddy can score at this level when players like Akinfenwa and the likes have hit 20+ then I'm generally quite shocked. He's 28, a great age for a centre forward and if he can get fit and stay injury free I have every confidence that he will score goals and I'm sure form an understanding with young Britt in the mean time!!
 
How old is Michael Owen?

How old was Michael Ricketts?

I think Freddy was at his best about 7 years ago when he was actually hungry.


I'd also steer clear of Akinfenwa. Whilst he might score 20 goals, I don't think he's a player who'll start in a promotion team.
 
I see BBBC is on the bench for the reserve game this week ( v Burnham?)...but Benyon is down to play...could this be the plan for Saturday? Freddie and Benyon to start with BBBC coming on to terrorise them (Stockport...or did I mean Freddie and Eliot?)...for the last 30 mins
 
How old is Michael Owen?

How old was Michael Ricketts?

I think Freddy was at his best about 7 years ago when he was actually hungry.


I'd also steer clear of Akinfenwa. Whilst he might score 20 goals, I don't think he's a player who'll start in a promotion team.

Looking at the size of him at the moment he can't be hungry
 
Very frustrated by this thread. The consensus on these forums 12 months ago was that we should get Freddy irrespective of any financial considerations. Ever since, the consensus has been that we should ignore the fact that he's offered very little, and continue to believe he's the saviour whilst having ago at others that cost less and work more.

Are we now slowly coming to terms with the fact that "he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy"?
 
Very frustrated by this thread. The consensus on these forums 12 months ago was that we should get Freddy irrespective of any financial considerations. Ever since, the consensus has been that we should ignore the fact that he's offered very little, and continue to believe he's the saviour whilst having ago at others that cost less and work more.

Are we now slowly coming to terms with the fact that "he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy"?

To be honest, I've been saying for ages that Freddy isn't the player he was. He has his attributes but they have changed. He isn't going to be the player he was, frightening defences to bits. A couple of good runs on Saturday but both ended with him laying the ball off rather than having a shot.

He is better placed to play behind the front two but is never going to be 20 odd goal a season striker he was, he won't be our saviour.
 
It really gives me no pleasure to say it but I did post when Sir Fred came back to us that we were expecting too much,and I'm afraid that appears the case.
Unfit and not a shadow of the player who scored 50 odd goals for us and singlehandley got us through two divisions.For those of us that were at the Man U game its not a comfortable thought that Sir Fred cannot get us out of this league again on his own.
 
Seems at last people are realising that he is never going to be the player he was whilst he clearly has no interest in getting his weight down and therefore have a chance of being fit enough to play regularly. Strange how Davids who is 11 years older, hardly played for 4 years and also suffers from injury problems can manage 90 minutes each week and clearly have an impact. It all comes down to desire. I have no desire to knock a player who contributed so much in his frist spell but we are in a position where we have a threadbare squad and could spend his wages on 2 players who are fit and could contribute. On the same basis if we could offload Harris as well we could probably sign 4 in total.
 
Freddy might not be the player he was but I am still hopeful. Whilst he may not have been on the pace on Saturday, everything stuck and he worries defenders. I would like to see him have 45 mins with BBBC.
 
Freddy might not be the player he was but I am still hopeful. Whilst he may not have been on the pace on Saturday, everything stuck and he worries defenders. I would like to see him have 45 mins with BBBC.


Nothing stuck I think you will find. He lost the ball countless times.
 
Seems at last people are realising that he is never going to be the player he was whilst he clearly has no interest in getting his weight down and therefore have a chance of being fit enough to play regularly. Strange how Davids who is 11 years older, hardly played for 4 years and also suffers from injury problems can manage 90 minutes each week and clearly have an impact. It all comes down to desire. I have no desire to knock a player who contributed so much in his frist spell but we are in a position where we have a threadbare squad and could spend his wages on 2 players who are fit and could contribute. On the same basis if we could offload Harris as well we could probably sign 4 in total.

Harris should not have been given a three year contract in the first place, not at 34, and with his injury record. Eastwood, well Fred imo was never realy in love with the game, as a young man fitness might have come easy, now in his late twentys it comes a bit harder, does he really want to do it anymore, i hope so, but i doubt it.
 
Very frustrated by this thread. The consensus on these forums 12 months ago was that we should get Freddy irrespective of any financial considerations. Ever since, the consensus has been that we should ignore the fact that he's offered very little, and continue to believe he's the saviour whilst having ago at others that cost less and work more.

Are we now slowly coming to terms with the fact that "he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy"?

At the beginning of what you say I personally didn't and said the reasonings at the time. How you end this post I've said that all along.
 
Fred must have a tidy sum stashed and if true will he have the willpower to put his body through the rigours of playing full time football ,Does he have the desire to do intensive gym work and cut out the junk food/booze?,Have early nights whilst preparing for the match,Take on heavy training sessions in freezing cold weather,Getting targeted by bruising centre backs whose only intention is too kick him up in the air?

Fred is a hero to the majority of us so if you are reading these forums Fred please dont tarnish your past status at this club/
 
Harris should not have been given a three year contract in the first place, not at 34, and with his injury record. Eastwood, well Fred imo was never realy in love with the game, as a young man fitness might have come easy, now in his late twentys it comes a bit harder, does he really want to do it anymore, i hope so, but i doubt it.

I couldnt have put it better myself. I think it is actually more than likely that Fred will do a Collymore and retire from the game before the season is out.
 
Fitness wise Fred hasnot played a first team game prior to re-joining here for literally 2 years. And at Coventry was often told not to even bother turning up for their reserve matches such was his bad ways. After that period of time maybe it is understandable he's still not 100% but he should now be on the verge of doing so but again as stated a lot of this was largely down to him in the first place. Weight wise he seems no different now to when he came back in march so either he lost a bit but put it back on or never lost any in the first place and Luggy had said to someone on here Fred wasn't disciplined with his diet so that lacks professionalism for a start. His weight should have come down by now and if he does retire soon it'll be because of a niggling injury that has become a bit too much. That'll be official line if it happens. I know I get knocked for berating his persona but as I said earlier the list of managers he has upset is endless so can't all be a coincidence and all down to bad management and not the slightest in any way is fred's fault.
 
Whilst Fred was an excellent player during our promotion years, he hasn't been the same since November 2006 which was an awfully long time ago. Although he has contributed plenty to the club, I have never held him in the same tier of esteem such as club legends like Stan Collymore, Chris Powell, Spencer Prior, Dave Webb and Steve Tilson. Funnily enough I always remember Spencer Prior appearing on Sky TV the day after the Manchester United victory and he said Gary Hooper will become a better player than Freddy Eastwood which seemed barmy at the time, how right he was!
 
Funnily enough I always remember Spencer Prior appearing on Sky TV the day after the Manchester United victory and he said Gary Hooper will become a better player than Freddy Eastwood which seemed barmy at the time, how right he was!

That reminded me of a conversation I had with Steve Tilson at a pre-season game where he said exactly the same thing about Mitchell Cole.
 

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