Fighting

[patsy127]

Quote[/b] (Jai @ May 09 2005,11:48)]That would just make us as bad as them. And you can guarantee that the types of Grimsby 'fans' that were starting trouble are not the type to come down to away games. I doubt they even know half the players names.

yeh good point actually, i agree with that, just there to cause trouble, and it would make us as bad as that,

 

[Prodigal Son]

The official Grimsby site is inviting comments. Get on there.

www.gtfc.co.uk

 

[C'mon you Blues]

Quote[/b] (patsy127 @ May 09 2005,11:34)]no wonder the Grimsby fans are liek they are, when police are meant to be good citizens and role models, thats why Grimsby fans are w***ers, despite having a sh*t hole ground!!

no wonder Ron is livid as he had to shell out to pay these guardians of law and order. As Chief Wiggum said, "and just where does it say protect and serve?" (or words to that effect). His side kick says, "well it's on your badge". "So it is", says Wiggum, "would you just look at that".
I'm afraid our police are like fans. Some are great and some are well........it's best left unsaid.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Indeed the Police up there were very strange indeed and seemed to have a chip on their shoulders.

After leaving the Beer backyard (can't call it a garden), Unc and myself was crossing the road when Unc turned round to me and said' Looks like I am going to be cold' when a copper nearby turned and said 'Dont worry I am only a Northern Monkey' Which was a sort of surreal answer, but it made me laugh at his ignorance as Unc is a born and bred Manc, who has discovered the joys of the mighty shrimpers after moving here. Seems to him that only us soft southerners would ever consider supporting Southend.

 

[Upminster Blue]

I didn't see any trouble on Saturday although there was certainly a strange atmosphere so the stories certainly don't surprise me.

Unfortunately, the accounts are fairly typical, in my experience, of northern clubs in less well off areas. Their fans seem to have a real chip on their shoulders and are intent on causing trouble. Possibly due to the perception that Southerners are all loaded just because of where they live - how thick can you get!

Sounds as though the situation wasn't helped by the "Millwall style" of policing - let the home fans get away with blue murder but give the away fans hell on the grounds it's easier to control the smaller number of away fans.

I'm all in favour of Southern devolution - let's stop subsidising the North and spend our hard earned taxes on the South.

 

[Smudger]

Quote[/b] (Upminster Blue @ May 09 2005,13:09)]I didn't see any trouble on Saturday although there was certainly a strange atmosphere so the stories certainly don't surprise me.

Unfortunately, the accounts are fairly typical, in my experience, of northern clubs in less well off areas.  Their fans seem to have a real chip on their shoulders and are intent on causing trouble.  Possibly due to the perception that Southerners are all loaded just because of where they live - how thick can you get!

Sounds as though the situation wasn't helped by the "Millwall style" of policing - let the home fans get away with blue murder but give the away fans hell on the grounds it's easier to control the smaller number of away fans.

I'm all in favour of Southern devolution - let's stop subsidising  the North and spend our hard earned taxes on the South.  

The weird thing is we weren't even aware of the Grimsby fans presence in the ground until the end of the game - they were an absolute irrelevence. There was none of the usual banter, no incitement, nothing and I'm not aware of any previous ill blood. At the end of the game as we stood trying to work out whether we were up or not, they just steamed over about 20 yards away from us in front of the away stand giving it the "come on then" (ten out of ten for originality boys) and began singing songs about us not going up/how sh*t we were etc etc. A few people went to meet them and it wasn't until the police stepped in that I noticed about 200 spindly sets of arms rise up at the same time, giving it the big one behind the safety of a line of police. What a disgrace they were to their club and the off licences they hang around outside on Friday night. Their 35 year old grandparents should be ashamed of themseves.

The other thing I noticed was that they were the least intimidating set of fans I have ever seen - skinny, ignorant chavs in sterotypical chavwear from about 2001 - right down to the fake Burberry caps - it was like Blazing Squad X200. Any picture of that lot would provide a fantastic advert for the compulsory neutering of all females in the Grimsby area. God alone knows what it must be like to live there but put it this way, I never thought I'd find anywhere that makes Canvey seem like Mauritius.

I'm not bitter, but if Al Queda ever start a bombing campaign and chose to begin operations in Cleethorpes, no tears would be shed in my house.....

 

[Rusty Lee]

Quote[/b] (wrongun @ May 09 2005,10:53)]Haven't seen a mention of this so i thought I would voice my disgust: Whilst walking back to our car on Sat after the game my friend and i having lost touch with the rest of our group including my 53 year old father were attacked by seven or eight Grimsby "lads".  We were walking back and a northern lad approached me and claimed to be a Grimsby lad and asked if we were Southend.  I replied that I was indeed a Southend fan but I was just walking down the road to my car, he then spat on my firend and called his other mates across the road after doing so we were then faced with seven or eight nutters who continued to "shout lets have it!" My friend was then punched and kicked and whilst we tried to defend ourselves it was to no avail.  The police arrived and pinned my friend to the wall and after various plea's and requests from other SUFC fans to let him go he was relaesed.  The said Grimsby "Lads" then continued up the road towards the pub and started again.  I would like to say a big thanks to the one or two SUFC fans who aided us in the break up of this incident.  I spoke with the police and was again abused and told to "f*ck off home".  I was threatened with a baton and also attacked by these idiots from GTFC.  My days of this are over but how do an aledged Grimsby firm walk down the road without police escort and attact the Southend Firm (ha ha) all two of us and the police do nothing, not even arrest the mad coke head who started it.  Whilst it did not really effect me as I have with my own admission been invoved with incidents over the years I am sure the young kids and familys around were petrified!

sounds like the same lot which were hiding down a alley as I left the ground, really big and hard lads by starting on a bunch of scarfers just making there way back to the car

 

[DTS]

Our party of four had the delights of being "offered out" by four of their lads as we were right by the station. There lads being a load of spotty , pikie gypos with the total inability to string a sentance together.

Now four of four dosent sound to bad except for the fact that I was on crutches having only just had a knee operation & Two of party were dads in there laye 50's.Obviously code of honour amongst hoolys respected up there.

They called us Southern C***s and starting singing "Southend wheres your boys"?" ...

Got to the delights of Cleethorpes station and saw a copper...Told him wha had happended and he said F**k Off back to London......

In contrast saw some pretty nasty looking Luton lads who all got on at Doncaster - but they were good as gold and wished us well......

DtS

 

[Guest]

I was glad that there was a gang of 16 year olds in burbery, stone island and aquascutum down the front of the away end to protect us from the Grimsby masses otherwise I would have been reall worried about my safety.

 

[sufcintheprem]

I saw the same group hiding round a corner while their bait walked in everyone's faces telling us how we were "sh*t bastards". Just walked past him. Wasn't in the mood for any of his sh*t.

It's a disgrace, it really is. The fact that there were hordes of police and yet none of them seemed to notice this disgraceful attempt at starting trouble. It wasn't a one-off, we saw the bloke trying it about 50 yards before we got there so why didn't the police do anything?

I'm going on their site now to tell them all about it.

 

[pitsea shrimper]

i think that the worst part of all this is the young kids with terror written all over their little faces, my 8 year old son was one of these, he loves southend to the bone and said to me "dad i don't ever want to come to an away game ever again". It is such a shame he has been to most away games and we have had great days out. I think it was a total shambles and still with the police i cannot believe them arseholes doing nothing.

Also just picked up the evening echo tonight and you can see grimsby stewards laughing their heads off with all the grimsby fans on the pitch, he should be sacked.

Lets hope we can shut them grimsby fans up by winning at the play offs

 

[Firestorm]

Well I have only just got back....

Before the game the police were friendly,when I commented about the number of them outside the boot, he said that Grimsby fans were the reason for the police presence not ours, After we headed towards the boot after asking a policeman if it was open (he got that bit wrong) but he seemed civil.
We did see scuffles on the way up the road ,just as i felt a tad threatened on the way to the ground as I spotted a number of Stone island clad (well thats what is said on the back anyway) "boys" strutting amongst the generally middle aged southend fans going to the game.

When we found the pub was shut we headed back into town. Long walk we thought, then the heavens opened and we dived on a bus, all the Grimsby fans were pleasant and chatty, even told us what pubs to go to.
mind you the game had been over for 20 minutes and they were going home, so I would have expected anyone looking for trouble still to have been roaming the streets.

The few Grimsby fans we met throughout the evening were fine , the two stewards we met were very chatty.

But the toerag who done our car in the hotel carpark the next morning.......

Ever tried getting replacement glass for a daewoo on a sunday in Grimsby, Temp replacement fitted around 4.30 - 5.00 last night and we really didn't fancy the trip home, so another night in the hotel was on the cards

So tickets , Travel and one night in a hotel (plus buckets of Beer on saturday night) was increased by 220 quid for the car to be fixed and another 70 for the hotel. (plus further expense for fresh underwear etc due to the unexpected extra night !!)

Good to meet the scottish Contingent, Glasgow SuFC and his dad, Shrimper in a kilt and his tribe and the Scot from Grenock whose name I didn't get but was talking to my missus.

 

[Shrimper2thecore]

They have rubbish fans, the terrible pitch invasion, which meant we missed two minutes of the game, and after the game aswell, they are a real discrace to football fans everywhere

 

[bluearmy]

I must say my friend and I encountered some potential trouble as we headed back into Cleethorpes.

We were in a pub minding our own business, when two blokes stared at our SUFC shirts and asked "What's your problem eh eh"? I looked at him and said nothing. To which I received a barrage of "Southern scum, sh*thead...you looking for it" etc etc.

It turned out neither of these were Grimsby fans, but merely thugs looking for a fight with anyone that was around and barely different.

Luckily they saw police action near the train station and ran towards the trouble. The very helpful and amicable bar manager locked the doors and they didn't come back.

It could have been a very different story though.

A word on the Grimsby fans at the end of the game. It's very difficult to stop fans when they converge on the touchline like that, while play is in progress.

The referee, who in my opinion had a very poor game, should have stopped the game, waited until the stewards had gained control, then and only then brought the players back out for the remaining couple of minutes.

Still, the Grimsby fans had a lot to celebrate eh? 18th - woohoo!

 

[Ron Manager]

The really strange thing is the last time I went there they got relegated (we were already down from the old 1st Division and they went down on the final day) and they were as good as gold. Never had a problem in Grimsby (or more accurately Cleethorpes) at all on various trips to Blundell Park and always quite enjoyed a few beers in the Leaky Boot (or Darleys Hotel as was) and decent fish and chips - obviously times have changed.

 

[Upminster Blue]

Quote[/b] (Ron Manager @ May 09 2005,18:57)]The really strange thing is the last time I went there they got relegated (we were already down from the old 1st Division and they went down on the final day) and they were as good as gold. Never had a problem in Grimsby (or more accurately Cleethorpes) at all on various trips to Blundell Park and always quite enjoyed a few beers in the Leaky Boot (or Darleys Hotel as was) and decent fish and chips - obviously times have changed.

You surprise me. From my first visit in 89 I've always felt that trouble was not too far away in Grimsby. On more than one occassion I've been approached by locals looking for trouble.

On further reflection, I think these past incidents have involved local gangs hanging around Blundell Park who were not actually at the game. That also seems to ring true with what some have been saying on here.

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Barras Bravas @ May 09 2005,15:51)]I was glad that there was a gang of 16 year olds in burbery, stone island and aquascutum down the front of the away end to protect us from the Grimsby masses otherwise I would have been reall worried about my safety.

Were they the "mighty" CS Youth?!

WS

 

[KrustyTheKray]

Quote[/b] (Ron Manager @ May 09 2005,18:57)]The really strange thing is the last time I went there they got relegated (we were already down from the old 1st Division and they went down on the final day) and they were as good as gold. Never had a problem in Grimsby (or more accurately Cleethorpes) at all on various trips to Blundell Park and always quite enjoyed a few beers in the Leaky Boot (or Darleys Hotel as was) and decent fish and chips - obviously times have changed.

Yeah i've been there on two other occasions when we got heavily beaten (including Sammy getting a red card in one of the games), and never had a problem. The scenes on saturday when the Grimsby fans were getting ready to go on the pitch were disgraceful!

Did anyone see the nutter running up and down the touchline with the lino?? What a nutter! I've never seen a linesman run so fast at the final whistle! The steward (or if you can call them stewards) lost control! To the point there didn't seem enough of them, nor police in the ground!

I'm saddened to read of all the trouble fellow fans have had with GTFC fans on saturday! They should really chuck the book at them!!!

The GTFC fans i spoke to before and after the game were really friendly people and wished us well. But you could tell they have so many nutter in their ranks, especially the first few that came on the pitch and headed towards where we was sitting!

On the way out the town in the car i even see some nutter try to attack a people carrier full with a family of SUFC fans (looked like Mum, Dad and Three kids). I'm sure he punched one of the passenger window's before the traffic started moving again.

Did anyone else see those nutters outside the leaking boot sitting down on the pavement near that construction site? They looked drugged up to the eyeballs! They looked proper ******* and scum! They called out to us and said Southend was London!! What a bunch of morons!

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (TonyTheKray @ May 09 2005,21:08)]They called out to us and said Southend was London!!  

If "Two Jags" has his way, it soon will be ...

WS

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Xàbia Shrimper @ May 09 2005,19:38)]

Quote[/b] (Barras Bravas @ May 09 2005,15:51)]I was glad that there was a gang of 16 year olds in burbery, stone island and aquascutum down the front of the away end to protect us from the Grimsby masses otherwise I would have been reall worried about my safety.

Were they the "mighty" CS Youth?!

WS

Exactly, all the victims were decent Southend fans who didn't want a fight. How cowardly can you get  

Personally, I didn't experience any trouble except obviously the stupid pitch invasion, but then again I just went straight back to where the coaches were parked, encountering some nice Grimsby fans on the way wishing us luck etc. Very sad to hear this, I certainly hope I never go there again. I imagine most of the trouble was caused by the chav scum on the right hand side of the stand behind the goal, scum the lot of them. I must admit it did seem a horrible town on the way to the game in my taxi. It's a shame really at the end of the season, because all my other away trips have been nice experiences.