Question Do you still think....

[TrueBlue]

Eastwood can do the bizzo for us this season?

Be interesting how opinions could have changed

 

[Earls Hall Blue]

With the right service no doubt.

From what I saw of him when he came back last season, he's head & shoulders above other strikers in this league, but we need some creativity in the midfield & not lump it up to him. That may work if Barry Corr's alongside, but I'm not holding out a lot of hope we will see him for a while.

Intersting that SkyBet have Freddy at 20/1 for L2 highest scorer & when you consider that was 18 goals last season, I think it's a good bet.

 

[Welly7]

He'll have a better chance if Sturrock plays him from the start - when he's fit, obviously.

 

[Angell Delight]

With the right service no doubt.

From what I saw of him when he came back last season, he's head & shoulders above other strikers in this league, but we need some creativity in the midfield & not lump it up to him. That may work if Barry Corr's alongside, but I'm not holding out a lot of hope we will see him for a while.

Intersting that SkyBet have Freddy at 20/1 for L2 highest scorer & when you consider that was 18 goals last season, I think it's a good bet.

So do I, provided he can get back fit quickly from this calf injury and remain fit. From the pre-season games I saw Freddy was starting to look fitter and sharper, I just hope he can hit the ground running when he returns because if he does then he'll go a long way to helping us out of this league.

 

[Smiffy]

Anyone know how bad his injury is?

 

[GodblessArthurRowley]

Missed Sir Freds first goal for us against Swansea(whatever happened to them?). Heard the roar as I climbed the stairs to my seat in the East Reds having just had one final bottle of Becks in the bar before I took my seat, I still regret not seeing it to this day.
I think we are pinning our hopes on past glories and we may be disappointed,that said I would love to be wrong and look forward to large amounts of custard pies being thrown in my direction when Saint Fred scores 25 goals for us this season and leads us out of this hell hole division.

 

[leeblue]

we have got a real crock Im afraid, his knee isnt up to it anymore, hence why we got assabongalonga in on loan, look at his weight issue for starters always a sign of less mobility, if he plays a dozen games for us i will be surprised :sad:

 

[paddysat]

I don't think Eastwood joined us for the ride, and to be sitting on the subs bench each week...once fit again and given the right service he'll be one of the leagues top goal scorers this year

 

[Kevin Hogg]

I have probably written too much in another thread this week.

Look, I think Freddy is a Southend United hero. At his peak in 2006 (6 years) he was mustard!! Thanks Freddy.

However, his form and fitness in recent years has been somewhere between very patch and absolutely non-existent.
When a club in financial plight and in a relegation scrap decides their £8,000 a week man is not worth inclusion in their squad..well what on earth does that say.

So, on the back of a "feel good" move we took Freddy on loan around March 22nd. Since March 22nd all we have heard is "when Freddy is fit".
Five months on...no sign of a fit Freddy.

Would love to be proved wrong but apart from rose-tinted specs...there is nothing to suggest Freddy Eastwood will ever be fit enough or good enough again.

 

[canveyshrimper]

I have probably written too much in another thread this week.

Look, I think Freddy is a Southend United hero. At his peak in 2006 (6 years) he was mustard!! Thanks Freddy.

However, his form and fitness in recent years has been somewhere between very patch and absolutely non-existent.
When a club in financial plight and in a relegation scrap decides their £8,000 a week man is not worth inclusion in their squad..well what on earth does that say.
So, on the back of a "feel good" move we took Freddy on loan around March 22nd. Since March 22nd all we have heard is "when Freddy is fit".
Five months on...no sign of a fit Freddy.

Would love to be proved wrong but apart from rose-tinted specs...there is nothing to suggest Freddy Eastwood will ever be fit enough or good enough again.

It can say the manager doesn't like the player, such as Bellamy & Mancini, it appears that Brendan Rodgers doesn't rate Andy Carroll. There's two off the top of my head.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Freddy looked ok when he came on at P'boro last week, I think he just needs a bit of gentle handling at the moment. Even when I saw him pre-season, he didn't look too troubled by the operation he'd had, it was more a fitness thing.

 

[Kevin Hogg]

It can say the manager doesn't like the player, such as Bellamy & Mancini, it appears that Brendan Rodgers doesn't rate Andy Carroll. There's two off the top of my head.

Well, that can happen - yes. It would seem that it happened 100% since Freddy left then as Mick McCarthy did the same?

The manager at Coventry City is not a star manager worth millions like Mancini. Is very highly unlikely that a manager would risk his entire career by getting relegated...just because he did not like Freddy.
Oh..and ask the Cov fans. The abuse he got on their forums was unreal. they could not wait to get rid of him.

That does all seem over the top. But they are the facts. The hope from Shrimpers is not based on fact but on nostalgia.

 

[canveyshrimper]

Well, that can happen - yes. It would seem that it happened 100% since Freddy left then as Mick McCarthy did the same?

The manager at Coventry City is not a star manager worth millions like Mancini. Is very highly unlikely that a manager would risk his entire career by getting relegated...just because he did not like Freddy.
Oh..and ask the Cov fans. The abuse he got on their forums was unreal. they could not wait to get rid of him.

That does all seem over the top. But they are the facts. The hope from Shrimpers is not based on fact but on nostalgia.

Eastwood started well at Wolves he scored a few and then McCarthy promptly dropped him to rotate his squad, I think he lost all confidence and was transferred to Coventry at the end of that season. I can't remember who bought him in but the manager didn't last long before they bought Hoofroyd in. He was sacked and Thorn took over and Coventry were relegated. I'll never redly on fans as proper source of unbiased thoughts on a player they don't like. I doubt if many here would say give Peter Gilbert a glowing reference, although his career record would indicate he's a decent journeyman pro.

Football is littered with players and managers who've had "big willy" contests with each other, there's always a loser somewhere. I'm open minded about Freddy and we'll see in the course of time whether he can hack it or not.

 

[Kevin Hogg]

Eastwood started well at Wolves he scored a few and then McCarthy promptly dropped him to rotate his squad, I think he lost all confidence and was transferred to Coventry at the end of that season. I can't remember who bought him in but the manager didn't last long before they bought Hoofroyd in. He was sacked and Thorn took over and Coventry were relegated. I'll never redly on fans as proper source of unbiased thoughts on a player they don't like. I doubt if many here would say give Peter Gilbert a glowing reference, although his career record would indicate he's a decent journeyman pro.

Football is littered with players and managers who've had "big willy" contests with each other, there's always a loser somewhere. I'm open minded about Freddy and we'll see in the course of time whether he can hack it or not.

You make some decent points..and the majority of the pollsters agree with you.

The worry I have? All those who are really confident about Freddy finding form...well they can only be using memories from years ago. There is nothing else whatsoever to suggest Freddy will ever be fit enough or good enough.

 

[Shrimper]

Had he played on Saturday I firmly think he would've smashed one or two of those chances away.

 

[Ayrshire Blue]

What you see is what you get with Freddy. You're not going to get him any 'naturally fitter' than he is now.

Freddy isn't your work horse type of forward. Freddy is a goal poacher, fox in the box, Johnny on the spot, whatever you want to call it.

I said in another thread about there being a few goal mouth scrambles on Saturday, had Freddy been on the field I'm 90% certain we'd have seen the net bulging at least once.

 

[Beefy]

You make some decent points..and the majority of the pollsters agree with you.

The worry I have? All those who are really confident about Freddy finding form...well they can only be using memories from years ago. There is nothing else whatsoever to suggest Freddy will ever be fit enough or good enough.

Why are you worried about other people? They aren't worried about you.

Eastwood looked fine against Spurs. Fit and eager to shoot (something that he didn't seem last season). Give him some service and he'll be fine.

 

[united we stand]

What you see is what you get with Freddy. You're not going to get him any 'naturally fitter' than he is now.

Freddy isn't your work horse type of forward. Freddy is a goal poacher, fox in the box, Johnny on the spot, whatever you want to call it.

I said in another thread about there being a few goal mouth scrambles on Saturday, had Freddy been on the field I'm 90% certain we'd have seen the net bulging at least once.

Which begs the question- why wasn't he brought on for the last 10/15 mins? If he was able to play against spurs why did he not play on Saturday ?

 

[JIMSDAD]

Personally, I am very much fearing that our former hero MAY be in early semi-retirement mode. I just haven't yet seen that old spark that he had in his previous spell with us. I really hope I'm wrong and that he is not now lacking the desire that I think has been and is missing from several of our other players.

 

[Beefy]

Which begs the question- why wasn't he brought on for the last 10/15 mins? If he was able to play against spurs why did he not play on Saturday ?

He got injured on Thursday.