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Daydream Believer

Rob Noxious

Retro Supremo⭐
Hello, good people of ShrimperZone. Just had a bit of a thought while having a swim this morning, having contemplated the conclusion of the 'In A Broken Dream' pop novel that many of you contributed to in different ways. My thought was this... if you do any writing, then it's like a daydream, albeit a structured one. This as usual set me off in 'song mode' and the title of this thread. I reckon a 'Daydream Believer' has to believe in the genuine nature of what's written. Music always evokes a lot for me and I just wondered if anyone out there might also get taken to 'other places' by the music ? If so, do you fancy using this thread to tell us about it. It takes a bit of 'chutzpah' for sure, but I reckon there's a good few people on the Zone who've got a story to tell about a piece of music, a Shrimper Zone 'My Tune' possibly. I'll try to find something from IABD to get it rolling...
 
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Billy Bragg - 'The Saturday Boy'

Not a 'true story' as such as I didn't know Nobby Snide until coming on the Zone, and though I had met the OBL once back in '76, the 'story' (such as it is) is pure fiction. However, all the stuff about Guy Norris records, BB playing at The Cliffs, the 29 bus and Southend scenes are all in the memory banks...

"This track is for an old friend of mine who feels that your Emperor plays stuff that is too personal, rather than political, as he would like to hear on Radio Retro FM247. Well, this is a public service announcement from The Emperor. This show is dedicated to bringing back the memories associated with the songs and like my footy chum should know, the personal can be political too... but in the meantime, I'll just have to carry on 'conforming to the middle class,' as he might put it...that's possibly me, possibly you and possibly most people I know these days. Here on Radio Retro, we’re broadcasting to anyone irrespective of their class, colour or creed. Even Col Ewe fans can enjoy this station. Anyway, this East London geezer was spared the delights of Dagenham Ford's assembly line by dint of being able to write songs, many of them political, but my favourite is a decidedly personal one, which takes me back to growing up further east in Essex way back when..."

Shrimpero dusted off his twenty-five year old copy of 'Brewing Up With Billy Bragg,' and looked again at the pop art drawings on the cover. He thought what an important year that was... the last year of industrial action as we knew it, the Brighton bomb, Malcolm Allison briefly managing Southend United with Bobby Moore... and was immediately taken home, back to when he first saw the Ol' Blue Lady again after losing touch in the late seventies. He whipped out the tape he was doing for the 'almost live' broadcast and replaced it with a crisp, virginal cassette, one which he had to crack open the cellophane for as he didn't want this particular broadcast to be besmirched by any material left on it from a previous outing...

"Hey, OBL, hope you don't mind me being in touch this way. It's just that I couldn't leave without saying goodbye properly...and this is about the best way I know. So, sit back and enjoy this personal broadcast with love from me to you. It will of course focus on the past, but I hope that it will hint at a better future for us, 'cos like McNasty once told me, "loving someone means being able to let go of them"..."

Shrimpero placed the record arm and needle over the LP and remembered to slow down the speed to 33.3 rpm on his old turntable. He released the pause button on the music centre's cassette deck just before the intro to 'The Saturday Boy,' remembering when he'd taken the twenty-something Blue Lady along to The Cliffs Pavillion in Westcliff to see 'The Bard of Barking.' He remembered Billy Bragg introducing this one "for anyone who ever went to Guy Norris record shops" and how he never stopped musing on those aching lyrics, 'I never understood my failings then and I hide my humble hopes now...looking back, she made us want her, a girl not old enough to shave her legs...'

"So, I'll kick off the show with this one. It actually came out in 1984, but whenever I hear it, I'm transported back to 1971 and the time I'd just moved from Carlton Avenue to the top of your road. You lived on the way to the 29 bus route and I used to pass your house and look up at your room just in case you saw me. I always wanted to impress you, even then...we were only ten but like the song goes, 'you were always on my mind...' Anyway, I remember being armed with ten orange Guy Norris vouchers that I managed to accumulate from trips to my uncle's...they would give you one of these vouchers if you bought a single and three if you bought an album. I couldn't afford an album from my pocket money, but my uncle was into all this Velvet Underground stuff which I thought was weird at the time and he used to palm me off with the vouchers he'd got from buying their albums. That summer, the summer of '71, when I'd moved into Kenilworth Gardens, the 'Cyprus Avenue' of Leigh-on-Sea, I'd walk down the drive of dreams, your Wellstead Gardens, the road that never changes year on year in my memory. I love it that way, it remains a constant truth in my memories I have of our home town...

...and then I'd pass the brook, near those tennis courts at the back of Clatterfield Gardens and head towards Fairfax Drive, where the bus stop was. It was when one-man buses came in and they were blue Southend Corporation ones. You had to put the right change in a slot to the right of where you got on and the ticket would print out copies of the coinage you put in. Sometimes I only put two pee in when the journey to Southend cost three pee, so you'd have to bluff it if the inspector got on to check your ticket. That bus journey took me past our favourite place, the world-famous Roots Hall, but I stayed on to get off at Vic Circus and walk from the underpass up to Guy Norris, where they'd have a parade of album covers in their window. I had my ten vouchers, pristine in my canvas shoulder-bag, and remember trading them in for T. Rex's 'Get It On,' which is what I was hoping I'd be able to do with you one day. Anyway, my gift is someone else's song and this one's for you..."

Shrimpero swapped the cassettes once again and intoned into the portable cassette player's condenser mike, "So therein lies the tale of an adolescent melancholic, the stuff that dreams are made of which maybe return to haunt the odd listener out there every now and then. But if you're listening, Lord Football, rest assured this Saturday boy will put the game before the girl any day of the week..."

OK, hope it gives you an idea of what I mean, but please don't think you have to follow any 'rules' here (except what we have to abide by on the Zone anyway). Reviews of gigs are welcome... just keen to get other people's experiences of what thoughts music can evoke as I (by necessity) monopolised the IABD thread somewhat. Cheers, guys, over to you...
 
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Errr, more than once actually Rob, and this is one of my favourite tracks as well. Will have a ponder, but I'm sure there are others, as you say, with stories to tell.
 
Errr, more than once actually Rob, and this is one of my favourite tracks as well. Will have a ponder, but I'm sure there are others, as you say, with stories to tell.

Yogi was p**d off that I couldn't keep 'IABD' going till 8.8.09 Kay as there ain't a lot goin' on bar our collective disaffection with the size of our squad (especially in what Ruud Gullitt calls 'dee-fence'), but I know this one takes a bit more concentration than a quick epithet here & there... I reckon you've an Osmonds tale to tell though! :clap:

ps remember the meet outside the chippy near 'The Elms' with Deb back in '76... did you go on 'The Bembridge' with Karen, Helen et al too?
 
Yogi was p**d off that I couldn't keep 'IABD' going till 8.8.09 Kay as there ain't a lot goin' on bar our collective disaffection with the size of our squad (especially in what Ruud Gullitt calls 'dee-fence'), but I know this one takes a bit more concentration than a quick epithet here & there... I reckon you've an Osmonds tale to tell though! :clap:

ps remember the meet outside the chippy near 'The Elms' with Deb back in '76... did you go on 'The Bembridge' with Karen, Helen et al too?

Yep, Bembridge, St Saviours, Leigh Comm - sampled all those delights! Still pondering on musical memories though, sadly most I've come up with are not good ones or just mere associations with events rather than stories!
 
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Leigh Comm, a few years after me I reckon. I remember the Friday night discos, lasses dancing round their handbags to Chairmen of the Board, The Tams etc. While the lads would stand plucking up the courage to ask for a slow dance at the end of the evening. And then hope to walk her home, and further hope for a quick snog, or......;)
 
Leigh Comm, a few years after me I reckon. I remember the Friday night discos, lasses dancing round their handbags to Chairmen of the Board, The Tams etc. While the lads would stand plucking up the courage to ask for a slow dance at the end of the evening. And then hope to walk her home, and further hope for a quick snog, or......;)

Yep, Friday nights in '76. I remember Danny & The Juniors' 'At The Hop' being re-released that year and one lad who was a fantastic dancer break-dancing to it before 'break-dancing' had been invented...

I used to play The Chairmen of The Board & The Tams' 'Be Young...' in my own retro DJ efforts a few years ago. Great stuff!
 
Yep, Bembridge, St Saviours, Leigh Comm - sampled all those delights! Still pondering on musical memories though, sadly most I've come up with are not good ones or just mere associations with events rather than stories!

Have faith, Kay! I've got my popcorn at the ready and my listening ear cocked...
 
Also remember another Friday night disco in '76...St. Clements' Church just off Blenheim Chase. Always associate Lizzy's 'The Boys Are Back In Town' with early summer of '76 and a night there. Also Highlands Church (going towards Hadleigh) used to have Friday night discos too back in those days...
 
Sad Sweet Dreamer

Just been hearing about my 'performance' last night from Mrs S. Apparently, the volume of my snoring in addition to the intermittent wafts of 'beer breath' were a deadly combination. What a catch I am! :)
 
It's just one of those things you put down to experience ;)

I have the seeds of an idea forming Rob, just need to perfect it a bit!
 
Bob & Marcia - 'Young, Gifted And Black'

Though this song was from the early seventies, it is now indelibly linked for me with Richard Cadette and his glorious time with us in the mid-eighties. I cannot recall Southend having a black player before Richard signed for us and unfortunately racism was still in the air at football matches back in those days. I first saw him play for us in August '85 in a midweek League Cup game when he came on as sub. The match was a poor one but Richard immediately livened things up and we managed to get a late equaliser with a rare Paul Clark goal, which had resulted from 'Tricky Dicky's general unsettling of the opposition (Gills possibly?) defence by his confidence to go at them. He was one of those players who would immediately enliven a crowd just by being on the ball and I remember a wonderful piece of trickery in a thrilling FA Cup game v Northampton (on a Friday night in December '86) where he turned both marking defenders with his back to them initially, then went through them like a bar of soap through swing-doors to emerge en route to goal from where he put us 3-2 up, IIRC. Finally, his goal at Stockport in our promotion game in May '87 nearly got me my head kicked in as I couldn't contain my glee when I knew it would get us up - he made it 2-0 with about 25 minutes to go converting a cross with his customary aplomb. Young, gifted and black - I will always remember the days of 'King Richard' holding court with huge affection.
 
Please Mr Postman - The Carpenters

I'm not going to be anywhere near as good as you at this Rob, but I've got a couple of short stories.

This one is quite obvious, and probably one that a lot of people who were in similar situations can relate to. It doesn't quite have the same meaning these days with mobile phones, texting and t'internet, but back in the day there were plenty of us used to keep an eager eye out for the postman every day in the hope that that he would bring "a letter from that boy of mine".

Chance for some loud cat calls from certain people at my perceived stupidity, but I had a holiday romance in Tenerife and fell for a..........yes, you've guessed it, a Spanish waiter! We had regular exchanges of letters while he was doing his 2 years of National Service in Zaragoza, I went from that first holiday romance to not seeing him for 2 years but things moved pretty quickly after that. Our relationship continued for another 3 years after the end of his National Service, with the postman being the vital link between us during the months we were apart - phoning was not a real option as it was incredibly expensive and also it was actually quite difficult to get through to their little village. His parents made arrangements to put an extra floor on their house to make an apartment for us, I had a job lined up in the Bank in the village, to help deal with the tourists, our wedding was booked at the local church and then, it all imploded.

So there you go, a very simple and straightforward reason why a particular song has a particular association. Yes, it's with sadness I remember the circumstances, but I remember the expectation, waiting for the postman every morning, hoping there would be a blue, airmail letter. It was all brought back to me when SM:tv used it for their Postbag slot, with its own special dance, but at least now it was associated with fun.
 
Nice one, Kay... just thinking about your last line there and how songs can have different associations, ie reminders of good and bad times. I used to love Mud's 'Tiger Feet' when it first came out, especially seeing the roadies' dancing with the band on TOTP, but then it took on a more uncomfortable hue as I remember it being on at the first disco I ever went to at a little modern church in Bridgewater Drive and my feeling that I was going to get beaten up if I stayed there any longer...discretion won out but 'Tiger Feet' always makes me remember that slightly sickly feeling of impending aggro... happy days!
 
It's just one of those things you put down to experience ;)

I have the seeds of an idea forming Rob, just need to perfect it a bit!


ooh-er Kay, think the reference to 'performance' may have been a bit misleading - :O - it's not what you think: honest! Affectionate but beery-breathed-&-bear-hugging-hubby in a deeeeeeep slumber :zzzzz:snoring RIGHT into my ear and gusting a waft of stagnating multi-pint with every out-breath following a spot of one-arm-weight-lifting out with the boys! Don't think the hung-over writer gave to much thought to the connotations of the word 'performance' :doh:. There surely must be an appropriate song title to fit this particular tale?????? BTW, well done you for being first up to the bar on the writing challenge! I have a bit of writing background myself but i mainly do features - i just don't do stories, so greatly admire those who do - and especially those who worry that they can't but have a go anyway ... :clap: ... !
 
Sparks - 'In My Family'

I've been a big fan of the brothers, Ron and Russell Mael, since they first came onto my radar in the spring of '74 with their single, 'This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both Of Us.' The great DJ Johnnie Walker had a lunch-time show on Radio One back then and used to play tracks from his 'featured album' over the week. I think it was the Whitsun holiday when he played Sparks' 'Kimono My House.' Before the week was out, I remember walking up to Downtown Records near The Plough to get it. One track which could be seen as a 'filler' compared to some of the gems on board (eg. 'TTABEFBOU', 'Amateur Hour', 'Talent Is An Asset') is a pithy commentary on how things don't always work out as you would like in families and finishes off with a classic line, ''Gonna hang myself from my family tree." I guess we all do what we can to navigate the troubled waters and hope for a safe harbour in the distance. I saw Sparks for the first time performing 'Kimono My House' at the old Kentish Town & Country Club a few months ago. Those brothers appear to be polar opposites but are still performing together after all these years. Fantastic really - but that's family!
 
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Gig reviews anyone?

Reviews of gigs are welcome... just keen to get other people's experiences of what thoughts music can evoke...

Whoops, sorry for quoting myself, but just wanted to invite any gig reviews etc here as this thread is primarily about the music after all. Won't be seeing any myself till the end of September at the earliest, ie SZ's resident punk band, 'Snide.' More details via links below:-

snide-punk@hotmail.com for details or visit www.snidepunk.co.uk visit us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/p...9695413?ref=ts or www.myspace.com/snide_punk or on twitter www.twitter.com/snidepunk
 
The power of music.
At the(excellent) Lucinda Williams gig last week I bumped into(as well as a married couple I know living in Sitges)a guy who was a student of mine when I first came to Barcelona in 1978.
Juan,who I'd last seen at a Pattie Smith gig a few years back is now 50,married to a Chinese lady (who apparently doesn't share his or my musical tastes)and is now the Director of a Chinese Language school and Communications agency after many years in IT.
Amazingly he'd also got tickets for last week's Jeck Beck concert(didn't see him there but ran into 3 other people I knew)and next week's Marianne Faithfull gig.Over a beer or two afterwards we caught up on over 30 years of concert going here in Barna.
Small world.
 
10cc - Rubber Bullets

It's possible I may have recounted this story on here before, if I have then my apologies.

Lloret de Mar 1973, it was the first group holiday abroad that we arranged, IIRC there were 32 of us in total, and the majority of us Blues supporters. We actually used as a chat up line on this and subsequent holidays, that we were a Southend youth team on tour. Football groupies were around even then. ;)

We had found ourselves a decent bar / disco called the Londoner where would start of our early evening boozing before relocating to another club for further festivities, and the title song was played repeatedly in the bar, and I always enjoyed 10cc thereafter.

My story relates to a couple of scouse lasses that my mate (the late Rob Jennings) pulled, and he was looking to offload his gooseberry. Being the amenable chap I am I came to his aid. Her name was Beryl, after sweeping her off her feet with my brilliant chat up lines and a couple of Bacardi & Cokes we decided to relocate to her hotel which was a few yards away from the club.

In those days it was next to impossible to sneak into another hotel if you weren't a guest, but nothing venture nothing win. Sadly I wasn't allowed entry, so we sat by the swimming pool chatting for a while. It was obvious that we were not going to be able to consummate our relationship, and as it was about 5am I decided to trek back to our hotel. I was sitting with my back to the pool, and as I got to my feet I slipped and went backwards into the pool. :stunned: In those days the fashion was for platform shoes, and I wore a pair that resembled diving boots, and often gave me a nosebleed when wearing them, as I wasn't used to be that far of the ground. As a result of wearing these sodding shoes I sank like a stone into the deep end, and was clodhopping about on the bottom like some latter day Jacques Cousteau. I had to kick the bloody shoes off and rise gracefully to the surface, to see the sight of this soppy bird ****ing herself laughing. I dived back to the bottom collected the offending footwear, resurfaced and dragged myself out of the pool. I then made my sodden way back to our hotel, to dry off and get some kip.

Faithful reader you will be pleased to know we did manage to do the deed the following night, but when I woke I found she had nicked a signet ring my parents bought for my 18th and some cash I had in my pocket. I have since developed a total mistrust of anyone of the scouse persuasion and even count my fingers after shaking hands with a scouser.
 
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