"Cele" Spotting

[* ORM *]

Did Carl Lewis really smoke or have I just suckered a couple of people again ?

 

[The Flying Scotsman]

Gianlucca Vialli is a smoker - He was a crap player wasn't he.

 

[C'mon you Blues]

David Jack puffed away about 60 a day........but he also according to Peter Mason's book did daily keep ups with a tennis ball and kept his scores in a jotter. So put that in your pipe and smoke it

He also died at 59. Not sure from what but I think I can make a calculated guess

 

[Hong Kong Blue]

Things haven't fully changed, as the post last week about the players all eating crisps and drinking fizzy drinks at the service station shows.

Personally if I was a professional footballer I'd like to think I would try and give myself every possible advantage, but Tes Bramble is hardly the only player to have been spotted with an alcoholic drink five nights before a big game. I bet there were a few players indulging in something stronger than an orange juice at the sponsors' and SUSCT events over the last couple of weeks - yet nobody was on here complaining about that.

 

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ May 17 2005,13:11)]Things haven't fully changed, as the post last week about the players all eating crisps and drinking fizzy drinks at the service station shows.

If Walkers Crisps are good enough for Gary Lineker they're good enough for our boys !

 

[palexander]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ May 17 2005,13:11)]Things haven't fully changed, as the post last week about the players all eating crisps and drinking fizzy drinks at the service station shows.

Personally if I was a professional footballer I'd like to think I would try and give myself every possible advantage, but Tes Bramble is hardly the only player to have been spotted with an alcoholic drink five nights before a big game. I bet there were a few players indulging in something stronger than an orange juice at the sponsors' and SUSCT events over the last couple of weeks - yet nobody was on here complaining about that.

I was a bit suprised to see Jay walking over to Burger King after Northants, but as he is recovering (and depressed) a bit of junk food will probably do him good!

 

[shrimper magic]

Quote[/b] (pboreham @ May 17 2005,13:23)]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ May 17 2005,13:11)]Things haven't fully changed, as the post last week about the players all eating crisps and drinking fizzy drinks at the service station shows.

Personally if I was a professional footballer I'd like to think I would try and give myself every possible advantage, but Tes Bramble is hardly the only player to have been spotted with an alcoholic drink five nights before a big game. I bet there were a few players indulging in something stronger than an orange juice at the sponsors' and SUSCT events over the last couple of weeks - yet nobody was on here complaining about that.

I was a bit suprised to see Jay walking over to Burger King after Northants, but as he is recovering (and depressed) a bit of junk food will probably do him good!

True but what about the incident in the tunnel and dressing room between arsenal and man u, pizza's being thrown???

I thought it was strange that pizza's and such were being laid on for the players after a game.

 

[Firestorm]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ May 17 2005,12:47)]How did Carl Lewis manage it on 15 a day then ?

Sprinting is anaerobic,

A quality sprinter may not even take a breath for the first 30-40 metres

 

[CANV]

we are talking about league 2, 20 something year old footballers here arnt we..
i dont see how a few beers or a fag on monday is going to make much diffference to how fast bramble can run on saturday..
try going for 8 months or a year without a beer or a bag of crisps or heaven forbid a coca cola!!.. im sure we could all do our jobs a bit better without getting ****ed up during the week but its unlikely many of us would stop boozing.. (except any ambulance drivers maybe, or pilots)

 

[Firestorm]

Quote[/b] (CANV @ May 17 2005,13:28)]we are talking about league 2, 20 something year old footballers here arnt we..
i dont see how a few beers or a fag on monday is going to make much diffference to how fast bramble can run on saturday..
try going for 8 months or a year without a beer or a bag of crisps or heaven forbid a coca cola!!..  im sure we could all do our jobs a bit better without getting ****ed up during the week but its unlikely many of us would stop boozing.. (except any ambulance drivers maybe, or pilots)

Its about commitment to a cause, when I was taking athletics seriously, although I was crap, the commitment enabled me to compete at a higher level than I would have done on ability alone. I hardly drank for about 15 years, didn't smoke and trained harder than anyone I knew (in fact if I found someone who was training harder I used to up my training !!)

(Mind you it got too much for the missus and she buggered off, and I hit the booze and fags but thats another story)

There are a number of players who have "overachieved" (Stuart Pearce ?) This is down to the effort and commitment they put in as opposed to the god given skill. Alternatively there are many (Tes , Steven Clark amongst others) who have the talent but don't have the commitment.
Get the two and you end up with Alan Shearer !!

 

[CANV]

having a fag wont affect his ability to hit a cows arse with a banjo..
maybe eastwood could do with laying off the running, have a pint and a fag and practice getting the ball a bit nearer the old onion bag..

 

[Hong Kong Blue]

Or maybe the midfield could practice getting the ball a bit closer to Freddy's feet?

 

[Guest]

Fags, Drink, Charlie, Women, ...never done me owt harm and I'm still the best footballer ever.

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ May 17 2005,12:49)]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ May 17 2005,12:47)]How did Carl Lewis manage it on 15 a day then ?

Sprinting- 10 seconds a few times every few weeks and big events only once every four years
Football- 90 minutes of exertion, at least every week...

The infamous smoker at international level recently was Serge Blanco, the France full-back - who was a regular 30-a-day man and was often seen hacking up a lung after a particularly tough run.

It just doesn't make sense to me.  My job is one in which (occasionally), I am required to use my brain.  If I regularly dropped LSD, it would seriously impair my ability to do my job.

As a footballer, players are required to use their lungs.  If they regularly smoke, it seriously impairs their ability to do their job.  And, yes, as a slightly zealous and annoying ex-smoker of 18 months, I can feel for myself just how much smoking affects lung capacity.  In turn, the ability of your lungs to process oxygen is what determines the ability of your muscles to operate at maximum effectiveness.

Let's not forget, this isn't a group of lads having a laugh on a Saturday afternoon.  This is their job.  If they are doing something which seriously affects their ability to do their job, then that's something which should concern us all a great deal.

Matt

 

[pickledseal]

i think the players should be doing every tiny little thing to try and get the edge over northampton, and possibly (hopefully) prepare themselves for another trip to cardiff.
smoking, late nights, drinking, clubbing, fastfood, etc really doesn't figure in my idea for this!!!

i am revising for my finals at the moment, they don't start till next thursday but i have been off the beer, no clubbing etc as it just a little extra you have to carry!!

 

[Guest]

Well, bejaysus, the odd Guinness or 12, and 20 woodbines a couple of days - or hours maybe - before the game never did me any harm, to be sure. Just ask what that little Kevin Phillips lad has achieved without me around, to be sure to be sure.

As you know, I loike me horses, so I do, but not the high horses some of youse lot favour. Jaysus Christ man, lay off the lanky bugga.

 

[West Country Shrimper]

I heard Fabian Barthez is on about 40 a day, and look what happened to him.

I agree with most people about what smoking does to you. I'm a smoker, which i'm about to have in a minute, but if I was a sportswoman, i'd definately wouldnt smoke. But since Ive been doing it now for nearly 10 years, it is a hard habit to kick. But if your lungs really need some air and you want to do well and perform for your club, then quit.

 

[londonblue]

Quote[/b] (shrimper magic @ May 17 2005,13:27)]thought it was strange that pizza's and such were being laid on for the players after a game.

Pizza is actually very good for you:-

The base is full of carbs. The processed tomato source is full of folic acid. (In fact there is more folic acid in processed tomatoes that in fresh ones - don't ask me how, but there is.) Most of the toppings people choose are fruit and veg. The only thing that is partly bad is the cheese, and even that can be argued to be good for you as it contains plenty of calcium.

I will caveat this and say that you need to do a lot of exercise to burn off the carbs in the base, but if you have just played a game of footy then you have burned them 1st.

 

[Kris]

Quote[/b] (londonblue @ May 17 2005,14:38)]

Quote[/b] (shrimper magic @ May 17 2005,13:27)]thought it was strange that pizza's and such were being laid on for the players after a game.

Pizza is actually very good for you:-

The base is full of carbs. The processed tomato source is full of folic acid. (In fact there is more folic acid in processed tomatoes that in fresh ones - don't ask me how, but there is.) Most of the toppings people choose are fruit and veg. The only thing that is partly bad is the cheese, and even that can be argued to be good for you as it contains plenty of calcium.

I will caveat this and say that you need to do a lot of exercise to burn off the carbs in the base, but if you have just played a game of footy then you have burned them 1st.

Yep, as was covered in another thread, pizza and sweets are a source of energy replacement so very useful after a game of football.

As for the smoking argument, yes, obviously it is a habit detrimental to athletic ability but quite a few top footballers smoke - especially some of the foreign players, who enjoy a cigarette with a glass of wine after a meal. Johan Cruyff was (in)famously on 40 a day.

If Mark Gower does smoke then that's a shame, though I don't think his inability to complete matches is simply down to the fags as he had no problem lasting 90 minutes every week last season - I guess those persistent back/hamstring niggles must still be lingering. With a bit of luck, he'll get those sorted once and for all over the summer and then we'll see him back at his best next season.

 

[McNasty]

I do not smoke and only drink 2 or 3 times a year. All professional footballers should follow my example and they could all look like me.