Question Away Support.

[Irate Ian]

Am glad every is happy to watch the poor side of southend atm,but don't worry as it be different once we have our forwards back.

The "support" we had at Donny away in play off,helpped the team didn't it,but aleast it made the players feel better after getting walked over

That is what's known as "Sport and Sportsmanship" which I fear you know little about.

It's not allways about the winning, but also accepting defeat gracefully.

 

[toellandback]

I am posting from my experiance as a football fan not as a Southend fan.

but you need to either start going to a few more games or take your rose tinted glasses off Betsy is rubbish, same as Francis

and if that was me who was on the pitch getting it in the ear from fans id buck my ideas up and prove them wrong, happends now when i play sunday league

Sadly mate that never really works, perhaps on an odd occasion but once it becomes a weekly thing all it achieves it breaking the confidence of a player.

I've always argued against absuing our own players in the past but now I'm going to more games I've been won over by the argument that the more games you go to the more you are entitled to be abusive. I thought it be worth sharing my own guidelines as to games attended and who to abuse:
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I think sometimes people who devote their time travelling home and away forget why they do it. It becomes a chore, something they have to do more than a pleasure. (Not aimed at yourself just a good quote to use)

Am glad every is happy to watch the poor side of southend atm,but don't worry as it be different once we have our forwards back.

The "support" we had at Donny away in play off,helpped the team didn't it,but aleast it made the players feel better after getting walked over

Sadly it doesn't really matter what us supporters do. If you could win points for support the leagues would look alot different. Also again sadly nobody will ever praise you for commiting time and money into following the team you love. Players, managers and even the club will never understand fully what makes us do it. If its thanks your after like the rest of us you are in the wrong sport mate :)

It's a good job we have the Blue Voice trying to get behind the team, I would hate to think if the only noise was abuse.

Could the abuse be alcohol linked ? I have witnessed people at away matches worse for wear on booze (at least it seemed booze was the reason) being over the top ---- perhaps they were just being dedicated and loyal, who knows ?

This ties in with my point about "having" to travel home and away. It becomes less about the games and more about bars, birds and booze. There is a famous Leeds fan who hasn't missed a game home or abroad, league, cup or friendlies since 1967 let spends perhaps more time in the bar than in the ground. Great effort travelling and spending the money but is he any better fan than those that turn up when they can and scream and shout to cheer the team on??

We've had this debate time and time again and still there are some that fail to understand.

Following Southend all over the country does not in itself make you a supporter; you could claim to be a fan, bit in reality this makes you a follower.

Shouting abuse at your own players does not make you a supporter either; in my opinion it makes you stupid.

Getting behind whatever team takes to the field, getting disappointed when things don't work out or when a player isn't playing as well as you'd like; but then rallying behind them, urging them on, encouraging them all you can, criticising every decision given by the officials against your team, and doing anything you can to disturb and upset the opposition's players; that's what makes you a supporter no matter how many matches you watch, or how much money you spend.

But be warned; being a real supporter won't make you look clever in front of your friends; but it might impress the players.

Great post :clap: What i am trying to say but worded so much better

 

[Southend_Lady]

I think some people don't seem to understand the word support. Spending every penny that goes into your bank account on Southend United does not mean that you are any better or worthy of praise than the next person. Which is the same point that everyone here is trying to make.

I think its pretty impressive to have not missed a game all season and it shows your passion for your interests but like others have said, don't expect a thanks for it.
Everyone supports the club in their own way. Whether you attend 5 games a season or 50, it's still support.

Very good points made about away days and booze. Some people get so pi**ed up that they don't even make it into the ground - how is that supporting the team? Don't get me wrong, nothing like a good away day with a good few drinks but I think some take it too far.

I must admit I used to be of the opinion that if you go to the games, you do have the right to have a moan. But I have changed my view slightly in that I think that you can have a little moan but there is no need to shout abuse from the stands and act like the club owes you something.

Everyone follows this club in a different way and I think this is something that we could debate all day. I don't have anything at all against the people whose lives revolve around watching Southend but I don't then think it's right that those "hardcore" fans belittle the seemingly less keen supporters.

At the end of the day we are Southend United. We will never have the fan base of Manchested United and we will see the fair weather supporters come out for the "big" games but that's just the way football is unfortunately.

 

[Lavender Blue]

Well said Ricey

I am sorry bucket&spade.f.c but you have just talked the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read on this forum.

First off, Betsy is not poo he is just not having a good few games. Just like Francis he is not a rubbish player he is just in bad form.

Secondly the point you made about if your not performing in your job and with a manager giving you a pat on the back. I am sorry but if you are not performing well in your job a good manager will pull you aside and speak to you and try and give you a confidence boost to make your perform.

Now I am afriad to say you don't actually pay the players wages, you contribute to it buy buying tickets to games and memrobilla. Ron Martin plays the players wages. No one asks you to travel all that way and spend all that money, you are not forced to go to every single game. If you think it is **** and waste of time and money stop moaning about it and don't go!

I don't agree with bashing players at the game and I have often voiced my opinon to people who bash players like the ********s in the South Upper. They play for Southend United so get behind them and if they are playing **** give them a bit of encouragement to play better... And if they have a bad game, come on here and let off your steam about it. How would you feel if that was you on the pitch and some arrogant ****er starts shouting "YOUR ****".

Put the shoe on the other foot and think about things.

Well said I think this is the best post I've read so far

 

[Reg Martin]

Up until now I have thought that the success Southend have enjoyed in recent seasons has been largely due to the efforts of Ron Martin, Steve Tilson and the players on the pitch. Admittedly I hoped that the vocal and financial support of us fans had played a small part too.
However, a couple of the posts on this thread have now given me pause for thought…
Could it really be the case that our team’s success has actually been down to that small but hardy group of souls who go to more games than the rest of us and are ever-alert to the smallest slip in standards, which when detected they meet with a chorus of boos for the team in general and personal abuse of certain individual players?

 

[Desert Shrimper]

Up until now I have thought that the success Southend have enjoyed in recent seasons has been largely due to the efforts of Ron Martin, Steve Tilson and the players on the pitch. Admittedly I hoped that the vocal and financial support of us fans had played a small part too.
However, a couple of the posts on this thread have now given me pause for thought…
Could it really be the case that our team’s success has actually been down to that small but hardy group of souls who go to more games than the rest of us and are ever-alert to the smallest slip in standards, which when detected they meet with a chorus of boos for the team in general and personal abuse of certain individual players?

You could be onto something TS. Thank God for all those hardy souls who travelled round the country calling Maher a **** week in week out as he laid on goal after goal. They really pushed him onto better things....

 

[bucket&spade.f.c]

I think some people don't seem to understand the word support. Spending every penny that goes into your bank account on Southend United does not mean that you are any better or worthy of praise than the next person. Which is the same point that everyone here is trying to make.

I think its pretty impressive to have not missed a game all season and it shows your passion for your interests but like others have said, don't expect a thanks for it.
Everyone supports the club in their own way. Whether you attend 5 games a season or 50, it's still support.

Very good points made about away days and booze. Some people get so pi**ed up that they don't even make it into the ground - how is that supporting the team? Don't get me wrong, nothing like a good away day with a good few drinks but I think some take it too far.

I must admit I used to be of the opinion that if you go to the games, you do have the right to have a moan. But I have changed my view slightly in that I think that you can have a little moan but there is no need to shout abuse from the stands and act like the club owes you something.

Everyone follows this club in a different way and I think this is something that we could debate all day. I don't have anything at all against the people whose lives revolve around watching Southend but I don't then think it's right that those "hardcore" fans belittle the seemingly less keen supporters.

At the end of the day we are Southend United. We will never have the fan base of Manchested United and we will see the fair weather supporters come out for the "big" games but that's just the way football is unfortunately.

Well we all know this was aimed at me due to what happened at Donny in the league but I had good day out.

But aleast I get kicked out for supporting my club and not walk out just after half time of the last two home games :) :)

 

[TrueBlue]

Very good points made about away days and booze. Some people get so pi**ed up that they don't even make it into the ground - how is that supporting the team? Don't get me wrong, nothing like a good away day with a good few drinks but I think some take it too far.

Come back when your in a position to judge sweet cheeks

 

[Southend_Lady]

Well we all know this was aimed at me due to what happened at Donny in the league but I had good day out.

But aleast I get kicked out for supporting my club and not walk out just after half time of the last two home games :) :)

Well then thats all that counts.

And yes I did leave at half time the last two games but then I dont claim to be the worlds best supporter so I really am not bothered.

 

[TrueBlue]

Well then thats all that counts.

And yes I did leave at half time the last two games but then I dont claim to be the worlds best supporter so I really am not bothered.

No it just shows you dont give a ****

 

[Southend_Lady]

No it just shows you dont give a ****

Perhaps. If I feel too ill to sit there in the freezing cold for a whole match then its my perogative to leave but I won't then claim that I am the clubs biggest supporter (and that's no dig at anyone). As far as I am concerened, I've paid the club upfront for my season ticket and I attend 99% of the time. If for the odd occassion I want to leave early for my own reason then I will thanks.

 

[TrueBlue]

Perhaps. If I feel too ill to sit there in the freezing cold for a whole match then its my perogative to leave but I won't then claim that I am the clubs biggest supporter (and that's no dig at anyone). As far as I am concerened, I've paid the club upfront for my season ticket and I attend 99% of the time. If for the odd occassion I want to leave early for my own reason then I will thanks.

you worry too much your just as valuable to the club as anybody else!

 

[Ricey]

Excellent support by the fans who made it to the MK Dons game, we sounded great in that empty stadium. Their support was awful, and some people say Roots Hall sounds dead but jesus it was like having a longer minutes silence at some points.

Well done to all the people who made the effort to go and it was bloody freezing I know that. And for all those people who were at home in the warm listening on BW I know you were all their in spirit!

 

[jerseyshrimper]

Talking about away support the 1144 that we took to mk dons was fantastic and we made some noise, instigated AND ENOURAGED by the blue voice

 

[Ricey]

Talking about away support the 1144 that we took to mk dons was fantastic and we made some noise, instigated AND ENOURAGED by the blue voice

Was that the official number of fans we took? That was pretty impressive it did look like we took a few with us.

 

[Smiffy]

Talking about away support the 1144 that we took to mk dons was fantastic and we made some noise, instigated AND ENOURAGED by the blue voice

Yep a big well done to all. Especially B&S, TrueBlue and the usual crew who sing their hearts out.

 

[jerseyshrimper]

Was that the official number of fans we took? That was pretty impressive it did look like we took a few with us.

It was as quoted on mk dons website