42 Days Detention

[TrueBlue]

should be 50 days then ****ing burn them

 

[steveo]

And its 13-11 to the Right. Come on the Right!

 

[A Century United]

The one option not discussed which would solve the whole problem is to allow continued questioning of suspects after they are charged. You will have a pretty good idea after 28 days if you are going to be able to build a case given time. But at the moment, once charged, they can't be questioned further which doesn't make sense to me.

 

[OldBlueLady]

The one option not discussed which would solve the whole problem is to allow continued questioning of suspects after they are charged. You will have a pretty good idea after 28 days if you are going to be able to build a case given time. But at the moment, once charged, they can't be questioned further which doesn't make sense to me.

Which is kind of where I was going with what I posted.

 

[A Century United]

And its 13-11 to the Right. Come on the Right!

Errr.. That's to the LEFT - it's Labour (remember, they used to be the Worker's party....) and the Tories (remember, they used to be the hanging/shooting/flogging ones) who are opposing it.

 

[Napster]

And its 13-11 to the Right. Come on the Right!

not quite that simple, I'm afraid.

 

[Andyhsufc]

In my view, if Peter Clarke (head of anti-terrorist stuff for the met police;not the bald headed liverpudlian footballer) think that they need the extra 14 days, that is good enough for me

 

[steveo]

if Peter Clarke (head of anti-terrorist stuff for the met police;not the bald headed liverpudlian footballer) think that they need the extra 14 days, that is good enough for me

Well said, Its about time people started standing up for the old Bill.

 

[Andyhsufc]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7446141.stm

What is Trevor Phillips on about. Of course these powers are going to be used towards muslins primarily; it is inly those who call themselves Muslims who are attempting to ruin our way of life, not any other religion. Bloudy do gooders

 

[Mr. Benedict]

In my view, if Peter Clarke (head of anti-terrorist stuff for the met police;not the bald headed liverpudlian footballer) think that they need the extra 14 days, that is good enough for me

Hmm. The Metropolitan police also shot an innocent man dead a few years ago because they had their intelligence horribly wrong... the death may be irrelevant in this argument but the dodgy intelligence should certainly be a consideration in this matter.

 

[steveo]

presumably that would be Jean Menezes, a man of Asian appearance, wearing a rucksack and emerging from a building which was under police survellience, who when challenged by the police decided to run away. Would you have preferred the police to use the old fashioned "stop or I'll shout stop again" method?

 

[A Century United]

presumably that would be Jean Menezes, a man of Asian appearance, wearing a rucksack and emerging from a building which was under police survellience, who when challenged by the police decided to run away. Would you have preferred the police to use the old fashioned "stop or I'll shout stop again" method?

No he wasn't, and no he didn't. From the inquest, it was clear that at no time did he run away or attempt to evade arrest. Nor did he "vault over the ticket barriers" as the police put about after the incident.

The men who shot him sincerely thought he was a terrorist, and they therefore were convinced that they were risking their lives to stop a terrorist act, and they really can't be blamed for what happened. But this was, as Mr. Benedict has correctly said, a complete failure of intelligence and a ****-up of the highest order, and it doesn't lead one to place unquestioning faith in the police. I might point out that MI5 have also tried to make it quite clear that they are not asking for 42 days, and not all the police are convinced of the need for 42 days either.

 

[* ORM *]

This is typical of this Communism by stealth approach that this Government, up to now, has managed to get away with. More CCTV, speed cameras, petty rules, regulations and beaurocracy than any nation in the 'developed' world. Our record on human rights is admirable and again we are softer than any member of the EU.

Vote against as far as I'm concerned. This government is teetering on the brink of implosion. Sadly the alternative seems no better, has no clear policies except that we wouldn't be extending the ambulance chasing nanny state US clone that we have become.