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Patience is a virtue.............

Not so long ago we signed both an excellent midfielder and a proven goalscorer,more than capable of producing the attacking football and goals that should take us out of this moderate league. Sadly our manager doesn’t have the tactical nous to use them effectively.

Bonne hasn’t been a proven goalscorer for years. His last purple patch came when he played for Charlton 4-5 years ago. Since then he’s scored 22 goals in 142 games.

He was always a risky signing, but the general feeling was that if we could get him back near to his best, he’d have been a brilliant acquisition at this level. So far that hasn’t happened.

Go back to the post-match thread against Eastleigh where he made his debut. Plenty of opportunities to score in that game, but he didn’t take any. Most of us excused this at the time and put it down to ring rust. For whatever reason, that ring rust still hasn’t been shaken off.
 
I agree.
3 years is quite a long time however.
Yes resources etc etc however same fundamental issues exist.
Forward play, poor substitutions, same mentality approach, inflexible formation approach and mostly dire football etc etc.
I don't see km ever taking a team out of this league

The facts don’t care about your feelings.

We’ve improved year-on-year under KM’s leadership.

That’s not an opinion, it’s just counting.
 
Yeah they do, but maybe we gaining momentum again?

The league season is played across 46 games, not 15.

The time to judge will be after those 46, and as you rightly say, we may be on the cusp of a momentum shift which sees us climb the league standings.

And with January not far off, I’m expecting us to reinforce the squad some more & aim to cement our spot in the playoffs
 
I'm not convinced how strong the squad is. It's certainly small, and within it there are only a couple that other teams would bite your arm off for. Maybe half a dozen or so that would likely get another NL gig on a free and the rest may well struggle to get another NL gig. That doesn't strike me as a strong squad.

Are you talking about those outside the starting XI?

All of our current starting XI would IMO get another NL gig.

But when we look at the bench at the moment there’s Bridge and KAF then a bunch of untested youngsters and the husk of Bonne.

The thing that is irking me is we seem to have changed our game plan.

So much being said about transfer windows etc. We don't have one.

What happened to scouting the national league South and North etc. Paying nominal fees for the next top player.

GSM signed for peanuts
Kensdale the same
Cav minimal
Cardwell

I get that some don't work out but isn't this the system of recruitment we were told we were getting.

Then we sign mccauley Bonne who is past his best on big money.

Let's look at the best from the divisions below and get some exciting and growing talent.

Arguably cardwell, kensdale and GSM were our best signings.

We need to sign those players and make money.

Were is the magical John still conveyer belt?

Most NLN or NLS or below will not stand in the way of players progressing for a fee.

We did sign Wind this summer. I agree we need to revert back to this policy.

I’m not sure whether the thinking was we needed safer signings or better quality signings but either way it hasn’t worked.

To bring this conversation back to RHB's excellent post, it seems like a lot of fans have written this season off already because we won't finish top, and yet last season the vibe was that we would sneak into the playoffs and win promotion.

Gentle reminder that it's October and we're 6 points off the playoffs.

This season is far from over. We’ve a plum FA Cup home tie and a great opportunity to win some silverware in the FA Trophy.

The momentum from a cup run could then carry us into the playoffs.

Macauley Bonne is only 28 so saying he's past his best is extremely harsh.

It’s not harsh it’s a statement of fact. He’s clearly not remotely the player he was and hasn’t been for a number of years.

Whether that is a lack of hunger, the toll of injuries or something else it is why he was a free agent in the middle of the season.
 
I don't believe this is an accurate portrayal at all, even leaving aside the catalogue of off-field shenanigans that have afflicted the club, and Maher's ability to put out a squad for the vast majority of that period.

When he arrived at the club, we were in complete freefall. The spirit and confidence in the squad was at rock-bottom after Phil Brown's failed return. We'd suffered consecutive relegations, recruited poorly, and were staring at National League South with just two wins from our first 10 matches of the season.

How he did that was to get the squad believing in themselves, playing on the front foot, being proud to wear the badge. He had a lot of success in the early part of 2022 with three at the back (that has been a key principle throughout), then four in midfield and three up front (generally Cardwell through the middle - sometimes Murphy - with Dalby and Dennis or Powell outside).

That changed in the televised game at Woking. After going 2-0 up and cruising at half-time, Woking scored twice in the first quarter-of-an-hour of the second half by flooding the midfield, where we had only players positioned centrally. Maher brought on Harrison Neal for Callum Powell to counteract that and add ballast to the midfield, and Harry Cardwell popped up with the winner. So, flexibility in formation, reacting to an opposition's tactical switch with one of our own and then a perfectly-timed substitution to turn the match around.

From then on, 3-5-2 has been the preferred formation. There's always going to be a preferred formation, so there's a focus on areas to work on in training. But there are subtle tweaks within that formation (I often say football is far more about mentality and confidence, rather than formations). Jack Bridge has been a left wing-back for much of that time, and initially you would see him pushing up with Ralph behind in support, and the right-back (in that first season this would be Demetriou or Leon Davies) sitting, making the formation effectively a 4-4-2. It was lop-sided, and play often came down the left, so when Gus Scott-Morriss arrived the following season, he wasn't as effective because he didn't get up as much. That's not the case now, of course, and we're equally as effective down the left or right (arguably more so down the right-hand side now).

The Wealdstone away match this season is another case in point of Maher being flexible and brave enough to make hard decisions to attempt to get a result. The first half was pretty insipid, and Wealdstone came out early in the second half much the stronger team and were dominating particularly in central areas. Pepple was taken off and James Morton replaced him, creating a box midfield with two sitting and two (Moncur and Appiah-Forson) supporting Bonne up front. We were much better after that, and their go-ahead goal (later cancelled out by Josh Walker) was completely against the run of play.

Three at the back has been constant, but the two outside central defenders are both given license to overlap the wing-backs (I suspect this has been encouraged by Darren Currie, who will have seen this successfully deployed at Sheffield United). We've had four in midfield, five in midfield, even six in midfield at Wealdstone. We've generally had two forwards in operation, but sometimes we've only had one there and sometimes three.

We've just come off the back of three unbeaten away matches without conceding a goal, dominating the last one and just not quite finding the final touch. If Coker's strike (from outside the box) goes the opposite side of the woodwork, or Crowther hits the target inside of nodding wide, this thread probably wouldn't've even been necessary.

But it is, partly because of three consecutive home matches losing each by a two-goal margin. Gateshead were superior to us, and sometimes you do get out-played. It's not a case of Southend United turning up to play every week and that's enough. But we were well on top against Sutton until individual errors cost us, and it was individual mistakes, rather than the set-up or mentality of the team, that led to the Maidenhead reverse.

What this squad desperately needs now is for everyone that turns up tomorrow to get behind them, to show they believe in them, just like those who went to Eastleigh, to Rochdale and to Aldershot did. It's not about formations, or tactics, or the mentality, because Maher has proved over and over again that he is capable in all those areas. It's about confidence, so that when that chance drops to whoever it falls to, they take it on rather than picking the safe pass.
The irony being people saying he doesn't have the tactical ability are the ones that can't see the in-match changes he makes, I.e. they don't have the tactical knowledge to see what he's doing and assume nothing has changed and berate him for not making changes. Not all changes need a change of personnel.

Even my son's Sunday league manager is constantly making changes. Do people really believe KM isn't?
 
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Are you talking about those outside the starting XI?

All of our current starting XI would IMO get another NL gig.

But when we look at the bench at the moment there’s Bridge and KAF then a bunch of untested youngsters and the husk of Bonne.
The original poster said the squad is easily good enough (or something like that). So not starting 11, whole squad. My opinion is the squad is small and overall not good enough. I don't think it really matters if it's 8 or 11 players that would get another NL or better job, both would sustain the opinion that the squad isn't currently good enough
 
Honestly with everything this Club has been through I have never used the ignore facility as much as this season! Unbelievable Jeff 😁
Exactly the same for me @BEERMONSTER & I've added another couple of herberts into the ignore basket based on this thread.

You & I have seen some real carp over the years & had many a great day out spoilt by 90 mins of complete & total garbage. Obviously back in the day we'd not see each other for a week & there was no forum other than meeting up for a beer to raise any grievances, though those were generally over the state of the pies or whether we'd bought enough pick-n-mix on the journey. 😁

Even at the start of this interweb thing there were people you could have a good honest discussion or argument with online & then meet up at the weekend for a beer. Now, apart from an ever reducing few, we have to put up with loads of single topic keyboard warriors who just troll the same sh*te every week. I'd defend their right to have that opinion, even if it's untter bollox, but posting the same diatribe 20 times in any thread just to get their post count up means I don't see the last 17 as the ignore bucket gets activated.

Sooner or later I'll drop off SZ as I simply don't want to waste my time.
 
The original poster said the squad is easily good enough (or something like that). So not starting 11, whole squad. My opinion is the squad is small and overall not good enough. I don't think it really matters if it's 8 or 11 players that would get another NL or better job, both would sustain the opinion that the squad isn't currently good enough
I’d say

Collin
Gus
Taylor
Crowther
Gubbins
Ralph
Bridge
Morton
Husin
KAF
Coker
Pepple
Walker
Miley (injured)

Would all likely get another NL team (if not better) if they were free agents this summer

For context Powell, Sandat (back on loan at Wealdstone) Ferguson, Lomas, Fonguck, Wreh, Mooney, Akinola, Nathaniel-George, Woodman, Cosgrave, Walsh, Brunt etc all went to NL clubs after leaving us.

With the exceptions of Leon Davies and Tom Clifford only really the clearly past it (Murphy, Hyde, Atkinson, Vilhete, White, Coulson etc) or not yet established (Kabongolo, Benton, Gard, Egbri, Rush etc) didn’t get NL deals - and Rush and Benton worked their way back anyway.
 
I’d say

Collin
Gus
Taylor
Crowther
Gubbins
Ralph
Bridge
Morton
Husin
KAF
Coker
Pepple
Walker
Miley (injured)

Would all likely get another NL team (if not better) if they were free agents this summer

For context Powell, Sandat (back on loan at Wealdstone) Ferguson, Lomas, Fonguck, Wreh, Mooney, Akinola, Nathaniel-George, Woodman, Cosgrave, Walsh, Brunt etc all went to NL clubs after leaving us.

With the exceptions of Leon Davies and Tom Clifford only really the clearly past it (Murphy, Hyde, Atkinson, Vilhete, White, Coulson etc) or not yet established (Kabongolo, Benton, Gard, Egbri, Rush etc) didn’t get NL deals - and Rush and Benton worked their way back anyway.
So is the squad good enough? And I think the context was good enough for promotion, not just survival in the NL.
 
I would be delighted to be proven wrong but just can't see it happening.

That’s the beauty of this sport, If we win our next three games we’ll be in the playoff mix.

The only thing I can see happening for definite, is a mixed bag of results between now and Jan/Feb. Once we strengthen the squad, we’ll know just how close we’ll be off from promotion.
 
So is the squad good enough? And I think the context was good enough for promotion, not just survival in the NL.

The current squad, IMO, is good enough to flirt with the playoffs. At best. We are clearly missing 3-4 real quality players & maybe another 2-4 solid squad players to compete for promotion.

The fact is we may have to wait until we’ve rebuilt the spine of the team - which may not be possible until next summer.
 

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