Paris terrorist attacks

[Pubey]

wow.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/17/paris-attacks-husband-defiant-tribute_n_8581470.html

 

[rigsby]

What was the lie?

If *** answers my question I'll tell you... I promise.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

So as we have officially made a certain number of places for refugees. Would you turn away economic migrants in order to take more needy refugees.

It's a non-question because Cameron's government has already made it quite clear that they will only be taking in 20,000 refugees from the camps surrounding Syria.

Your hypothetical question would only begin to make sense if the government decided to take in more than the 20,000 refugees already promised, ie join in the EU's quota (something that's extremely unlikely to happen,unfortunately,IMO).

Btw,what relevance does this have to a thread about the Paris terrorist attacks?

 

[southendkid]

So as we have officially made a certain number of places for refugees. Would you turn away economic migrants in order to take more needy refugees.

As far as I'm aware that's already what we are doing since we are only taking refugees from the camps.

 

[rigsby]

It's a non-question because Cameron's government has already made it quite clear that they will only be taking in 20,000 refugees from the camps surrounding Syria.

Your hypothetical question would only begin to make sense if the government decided to take in more than the 20,000 refugees already promised, ie join in the EU's quota (something that's extremely unlikely to happen,unfortunately,IMO).

Btw,what relevance does this have to a thread about the Paris terrorist attacks?

That's the word I used MORE.... so it does make sense

Your not *** you don't have to waffle and make out you don't understand the question. *** is very good at that, in fact unlike PB he always uses attack as the best form of defence.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

That's the word I used MORE.... so it does make sense

Your not *** you don't have to waffle and make out you don't understand the question. *** is very good at that, in fact unlike PB he always uses attack as the best form of defence.

Actually, I thought PB just preferred clean sheets.:winking:

See SouthendKid's response above for a reasonable answer to your question.

 

[rigsby]

Actually, I thought PB just preferred clean sheets.:winking:

See SouthendKid's response above for a reasonable answer to your question.

Your always telling us what a proud European you are and its Europe that are taking economic migrants at the expense of refugees. So would you turn away some to allow others in.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

If *** answers my question I'll tell you... I promise.

I don't think I've had a stalker before, I'm not sure I like it.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

That's the word I used MORE.... so it does make sense

Your not *** you don't have to waffle and make out you don't understand the question. *** is very good at that, in fact unlike PB he always uses attack as the best form of defence.

You don't make discussions with you are very attractive proposition really with your insults and your demands and refusing to answer someone's question until an unconnected person has answered yours first. It's strange that you find me so offensive when I would say I'm pretty non aggressive.


Because I am polite.


There is a moral obligation to offer refuge to people whose lives are in danger. Economic migrants are based on the need for certain skills. Obviously these are not policed very well. One does not need to effect the other.


Is that it?

 

[jassyfa1]

Just reading the BBC website and there is more heavy gunfire involving a police raid in Paris.

 

[RHB]

Looks as if Paris has really uncovered bad stuff again. Multiple explosions, gunfire and cordons around an apartment in the suburbs. Lets hope the French authorities have rooted out all the bad people now, though I somehow doubt it.

 

[Firestorm]

According to the latest statistics IS have killed 8000 Syrians,putting that figure in grotesque form,an average Syrian has better odds winning the lottery jackpot several times over than actually being murdered by IS.

**not worthy of a response**

 

[Firestorm]

I have a friend who has moved his family back to the UK because of the situation in Libya, he still works there as it is his home country.
I have not heard from a work contact of mine in Damascus for over 3 years now, the rumour two years ago was that the office copped a shell
Another acquaintance of mine lost friends in the Beirut bombing last week.
Several people I know in Syria and Libya have not made contact with anyone in my company for some while now.

I have been meeting, dealing and working with people from these regions for over 20 years, some of them I really like .
I find the disdain some people have for other human beings incomprehensible, whether its the attackers, or those taking their anger for the attacks out on innocent people solely because they come from a similar part of the world.

I saw a quote yesterday, "Hate causes many problems, but I have yet to see it cure a single one"

 

[rigsby]

You don't make discussions with you are very attractive proposition really with your insults and your demands and refusing to answer someone's question until an unconnected person has answered yours first. It's strange that you find me so offensive when I would say I'm pretty non aggressive.


Because I am polite.


There is a moral obligation to offer refuge to people whose lives are in danger. Economic migrants are based on the need for certain skills. Obviously these are not policed very well. One does not need to effect the other.


Is that it?

What ever next, now your trying to sound like some leggy blonde from an Eastern European dating site. Well it won't work i'm far to long in the tooth to come up for that.

The only skill an economic migrant needs at the moment is to get to Europe. People who arrive in Greece have not been 'selected.'

You are fully aware of this, so why lie about it. Are you trying to insult every one on the zone.

Go on be bold just try and answer the question. Your a perfect example of why your beloved Labour party allowed Dave to win by a landslide

 

[mrsblue]

**not worthy of a response**

Syrian population 25 million.
Killed in the civil war 250,000 which equates to 1%,this includes 150,000 fighters with 100,000 civilians.
The civilian death toll equates to 0.4%.

Now I'm not trying to belittle these figures in any way shape or form,war is horrendous and futile,but they are the figures.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34853657

Latest news from Paris.

 

[Beefy]

Your not *** you don't have to waffle and make out you don't understand the question. *** is very good at that, in fact unlike PB he always uses attack as the best form of defence.

Why do you have to insult people? Can we really not have a mature conversation?

 

[Beefy]

Syrian population 25 million.
Killed in the civil war 250,000 which equates to 1%,this includes 150,000 fighters with 100,000 civilians.
The civilian death toll equates to 0.4%.

Now I'm not trying to belittle these figures in any way shape or form,war is horrendous and futile,but they are the figures.

Population of Europe - 508.2m
Killed by terrorism in Europe in 2015 - 151
The terrorism death toll in Europe this year is 0.00000297%

I'm not downplaying the three terrorist incidents in Europe this year but they are the figures.

If people in Syria have no need to risk their lives crossing into Europe in order to be interned in a camp until their applications for asylum are processed because only four in every thousand will be killed if they stay then maybe we shouldn't be sentencing people to slavery or worse by shutting the borders and getting ready to negatively impact the freedoms that we all enjoy in the name of security when the odds against anyone that anyone here knows knowing anyone who might be impacted by terrorism in Europe are microscopically small.

You'd save more innocent European lives by killing every dog in Europe tomorrow than you would by suddenly overnight eliminating terrorism, if that was even possible which it clearly isn't.

 

[rigsby]

Because I like to stir it sometimes.:winking:

Why do you have to insult people? Can we really not have a mature conversation?

I learnt a lovely new trick from TUIB of how to avoid an answer last night. You quote someone else and say I think they have already answered your question. So I know he won't mind me quoting him, to answer a question about...well him of all people

Fine by me if you want to come on a forum and announce you like to stir it sometimes. On thread about 129 dead people in Paris, the same thread that you whinged about your families grief. Then like any Jihadi on the run in Paris you will be hunted down in whichever post you are spouting your self glorifying, centre of attention, I'm better than you nonsense.

 

[Beefy]

I don't think any of us should adopt any of Barnablue's posting traits. That should be rule number one around here.