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If the ref missed the elbow that caused Barry's injury, will it be referred to this new FA panel that can look retrospectively at events missed by the ref?
 
Couldn't really see Barry's elbow in the face but clearly made contact if he lost a bit of his tooth from it.

With Woodrow's, both myself and the guy in front of me immediately said "he's off" as soon as he clattered the guy, to be fair it was probably an innocent challenge but he was jumping into him (not just jumping upwards) and led with his elbow, catching the guy on the head. Can't see how that's not a red and was always going to be given.
 
Couldn't really see Barry's elbow in the face but clearly made contact if he lost a bit of his tooth from it.

With Woodrow's, both myself and the guy in front of me immediately said "he's off" as soon as he clattered the guy, to be fair it was probably an innocent challenge but he was jumping into him (not just jumping upwards) and led with his elbow, catching the guy on the head. Can't see how that's not a red and was always going to be given.

Big Roy wouldn't stand a chance today ............ he'd be off after the first challenge. He must be thinking the world has gone mad (or loco in Spanish) compared to the 1980's.
 
Never a red. Wasnt even looking at the player

That's part of the problem. He turned his back. His arm wasn't raised though, and it looked very harsh to me. That said, I'm not sure I'd appeal because it was a foul and it will probably be upheld.
 
Just looked like he jumped into him, okay he wasn't watching the ball, so I think a yellow would have been fair.

Don't think we would get away with an appeal. But Brown needs to have words about these red cards that keep happening.
 
IIRC Brown's Hull team wasn't very disciplined and they finished bottom of the fair play league in 2008/09.

There have been a total of 13 red cards in games we've played this season, 6 for us and 7 for the opposition.
 
IIRC Brown's Hull team wasn't very disciplined and they finished bottom of the fair play league in 2008/09.

There have been a total of 13 red cards in games we've played this season, 6 for us and 7 for the opposition.

Exactly my point, I want to see a proper game of 11 vs 11

I think probably 75 % of those red cards have been debatable both for and against us. Football is being sanitized far too much.

Can anyone on here that has a spare moment go through all the red cards in our games this season.
 
Exactly my point, I want to see a proper game of 11 vs 11

I think probably 75 % of those red cards have been debatable both for and against us. Football is being sanitized far too much.

Can anyone on here that has a spare moment go through all the red cards in our games this season.

Corr (straight red) - appeal successful
Coker (2 yellows) - can't remember
Phillips (straight red) - certain red IMO
Clifford (straight red) - two footed tackle
Hurst (2 yellows) - soft yellows but by the letter of the law they are yellows
Woodrow (straight red) - leading with the elbow when challenging for a header

Hackett (Northampton - 2 yellows) - can't remember
Threlfall (Morecambe - straight red) - can't remember
Hoyte (Dagenham - straight red) - over the top tackle
Kee (Burton - 2nd yellow) - 2 poor tackles and 2nd could have been a straight red
Beevers (Mansfield - 2nd yellow) - 2nd yellow was a late tackle on Atkinson
Alabi (Mansfield - straight red) - similar to Woodrow's IIRC
Bowman (York - straight red) - dangerous and high tackle
 
i was a photographer at this game and had a view down my 300mm lens and it was a definite red card seeing it up close, as for the penalty shout, this also was a definite penalty... the player wasnt even looking at corr and just put his elbow straight into his face, with woodrow although he might not have meant to but his arm completely struck the others face which is deemed a red card i suppose
 
Seen the challenge by Woodrow on YouTube and tbh i don't think we can have any complaints in this day and age. It was reckless!:Red card:

Not seen the Corr challenge but from what i hear and the injury sustained i would put that in the same bracket!:Red card:
 
I think I've only seen 3 red cards this season which were definite reds: Kee at Burton for two yellows, Hackett for Northampton at home and whoever elbowed BBBC at Pompey.

Phillips and Clifford I can see why they were reds but neither tackle was malicious. Woodrow probably falls into this category as well. Personally I'd have had no complaint had the York and Dagenham red cards only been yellow - possibly Morecambe as well but I can't remember that one.

Quite often with these cards you've got two people going wholeheartedly for the same ball and the red card is for whoever gets their second. That's not right.

The Corr and Mansfield lump's sending offs were jokes and I'd have felt aggrieved at a booking.

So what ex-Trust Treasurer says.
 
The big problem is consistancy, especially in the same game.

I have no real arguement with Woodrow's red card. It would never get overturned, as he led with the elbow. How, the Pompey guy stays on for trying to take BBBC down in the same game thought is beyond me

:angry:
 
Never a red card in a million of years. How many incidents do you see like that in a game where maybe a free kick or at most a yellow card is shown.

My advice to players is don't ever challenge for a ball, or your probably get sent off by a referree becuse he is a complete idiot, or he is influenced by a crowd baying for blood because their their team is playing crap.
 
Cauley goes in, fouled player hits the deck and rolls around, Pompey players surround the ref and the crowd boo, shout and chant "off". Reactions like that always seem to sway the referee at this level and every club is guilty of it (including us). Difficult to see why we're picking up so many reds as our squad seem a nice bunch - no McCormack's, Maher's or Mohsni's. Only think you can put it down to is the increased tempo we've been playing with along with a bit of overeagerness. Either way, Brown needs to get a hold of it as it just may cripple our season if we continue at this rate.
 
Very harsh red , there were probably 6 or 7 challenges far more worthy of a red card from Portsmouth players which went unpunished. Inconsitent refereeing who do always get swayed by the players overreaction ( cheating ) or the baying crowd.

If theres a silver lining in this cloud , Craig Reid should now get some game time. He's waited patiently for his chance + has scored regularly in the behind closed doors matches. I assume he'll play at some stage this Saturday -- he deserves a good reception from us fans , so when he comes on as sub give him a massive welcome . If he feels confident , he will score + possibly he'll be the man to send us to the top of the league. He's a Southend United player , so get behind the whole squad ( like we all did at Pompey ) not just the favourites.

UTB :loyalsupporter:
 
i was a photographer at this game and had a view down my 300mm lens and it was a definite red card seeing it up close, as for the penalty shout, this also was a definite penalty... the player wasnt even looking at corr and just put his elbow straight into his face, with woodrow although he might not have meant to but his arm completely struck the others face which is deemed a red card i suppose

Look at Woodrow's clash again, the arm strikes the back of his head, not his face. If you can show different taken with your 300mm lens, please put it on here.
 
I might be missing the point here, but the Ref gave a red card and the club are not appealing. Game over, it seems to me regardless of opinions.
 

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