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Will the NL be tougher or easier next season?

Will the NL be tougher or easier next season?


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Carlisle under Hughes will do exactly what we did under Brown and that is underestimate this division and find it incredibly tough

Happens to the best of them
It's easy to see the parallels between Carlisle United being relegated to the National League and our own demise (double relegation, upturn in form at the end of a League Two season under an experienced manager now employed in the National League having coached in the higher echelons of the EFL previously), but there are probably a few differences as well.

For a start, Carlisle's relegation hasn't come towards the end of a 20-year-plus ownership regime, and their American owners have already thrown plenty of money (unsuccessfully) at attempting to stay up. That will continue, although having gone through three changes of manager in 2024/25 as well as replacing their sporting director, you would have to question their judgement. Their squad is already stronger than the one we had when relegated, which was largely youth teamers who were promoted en masse and with little prospect of being able to develop alongside experienced heads, some loanees and others whose careers had been spent in non-league football (the exceptions here are Oxley, Demetriou, White and Dieng).

Nonetheless, the ability Kevin Maher showed to completely revolutionise the culture at our club when he arrived in the autumn of 2021 is hugely under-rated. He almost literally picked people up off the floor, put a smile on their faces and made them proud to wear the shirt again, all against the backdrop of the off-field shenanigans caused by our previous owner. Hughes will have his work cut out trying to replicate the on-field side, because Carlisle have lost 61 of their 102 matches in the past two seasons (comparatively we had lost 53 of 92 at the point of our relegation).

Whilst they might experience a little bit of a culture shock in the National League initially, I expect Carlisle to turn things around at some stage in the season, and probably early enough to be in the hunt for promotion.

I know York City just missed out, falling away towards the end of the campaign as Barnet maintained their pace and eased clear; Barnet were second in 2023/24, well adrift of Chesterfield, and if the Ugglas want to make wholescale changes to strengthen the squad, they will be equipped to do so, albeit I don't feel they need to. York will rightly feel aggrieved with the National League play-off scheduling; as impressive as Oldham were to demolish them, it probably wouldn't've happened had there not been the extended break for the home semi-finalists (the teams had drawn 1-1 on Easter Monday).

Forest Green Rovers, too, I would expect to be strong and their owner will make sure Steve Cotterill is equipped to mount a promotion challenge. When you look at the calibre of some of the players they have released, they can be expected to strengthen. For that reason, I think breaking into the top three will be just as difficult as it was this season (and realistically we were a fair distance away, although we gathered more points than FGR in the second half of the campaign).

Despite their recent takeover, at this point in time I can't see Morecambe mounting a challenge. They've lost 71 of their last 138 league matches, suffering relegation in two of their past three seasons. They've got a big rebuild on their hands, but they'll more than likely take six points off us!

I think Scunthorpe will take some momentum into this season and they could challenge for the play-offs. That club has been through a fair amount of turmoil over the past few years, but they're on a good footing now, are getting decent crowds and I reckon they'll be top half at least.

Boreham Wood might surprise a few as well; they've got a manager in Garrard who is experienced at this level (even if his style of football is frustrating to watch) and they had two play-off campaigns and another top ten finish in the four seasons before they were relegated. For an unfancied team, they punched above their weight and their relegation campaign was a real outlier.

It's hard to assess how Truro City and Brackley Town will go. At this stage I'd be surprised if they didn't struggle, but with some canny recruitment and a bit of fortune, if they can get on a roll they could survive.

My expectation right now is that we'll finish somewhere between third and fifth; I guess like COSU I don't want us to be jumping into the play-offs on the penultimate weekend of the season, and I think if we can bring in a few players to augment the squad we have at the moment with two or three key acquisitions (central centre-back, left wing-back and forward), we'll have our most enjoyable National League season to date.
 
Let's not forget that our rivals will also face long away trips, it won't only be us that will have long away trips. Carlisle will have more long away trips than most I should imagine being as high up as they are. The Truro trip for them will be a beast of a journey
Not as many. I reckon we'll have more mileage over the season than most ... apart from Truro.
 
York are going to chuck money at the league year, money we don't have.

Carlisle are attempting to do the same. FGR we know about. Eastleigh are always a dark horse in the money stakes.

Realistically I think 3rd is what we should be aiming for. Anything better, great.
 
Just a tad easier for me as both Carlisle and Morecambe will need to acclimatise to the NL.
Barnet and Oldham were two good sides with NL experience behind them and carried plenty of financial muscle.

That being said, like Smiffy and one or two others, York look nailed on to take top spot with the likes of ourselves, Carlisle, Forest Green and Rochdale leading the pack behind them.

The only thing that could derail York's title charge is if either Pearce is either sold/ gets injured or Hinchelwood gets his head turned and jumps ship to a FL league club.
 
I think Carlisle will be strong. Their new owners don’t seem afraid to spend money. They’ll also have big crowds on a par with ours if they’re doing ok. York & FGR will be strong again, plus we have to be in that mix. Halifax & Rochdale I’m sure will be decent again. Those 6 plus one ‘surprise’ package should probably make up the top 7. Scunny, Yeovil maybe. Who knows. I think Morecambe will struggle, they’re in the sort of mess we were in. Could drop straight through. Maybe Gateshead have also shot their bolt now. I can see a top 4, in any order, of us, Carlisle, York & FGR.
If so, why didn’t the owner spend lots of money in League 2!?
 
Hopefully this will be a tight season at the top with 5 or 6 clubs battling for top spot, that will suit us rather than the usual pair of 100 points teams
 
I think it's going to be the most competitive it's been for years.
We’ve lost a couple of big hitters, but what’s coming in from above and below feels even stronger. Carlisle & Morecambe will be expecting to go straight back up and some of the promoted sides from Step 2 might struggle to adapt, but they’ll bring energy and unpredictability too as did Tamworth and Boston this season
The top end of the table already looks stacked with potential contenders for the current one automatic promotion spot and the fight for the play-offs is going to be brutal. Mid-table sides will need to improve just to keep pace, and at the bottom, survival might come down to fine margins — especially for part-time teams.
Consistency will be more important than ever. There’s not much room for error anywhere in this division now.
 
My thoughts are that each season it becomes tougher , clubs invest in new players to strengthen there side some even invest in new management, i think we all have witnessed since we been in the NL you cannot take any team for granted ,there are no easy games, the season just ended how many points did we drop to sides in the relegation zone ,one team i do believe done the double over us .
 
Glad you mentioned Boston Beermonster, Coughlan when he took over really changed them from a basket case to a very decent team, i wouldnt count them out either .Seriously im thinking theres going to be many teams in the promotion race ,also add in Yeovil to all that have been mentioned elsewhere. I foresee a very competitive league this forth coming season ,and still hoping the league becomes 3 promotion spots ,it deserves that.
 
It does not matter who we play and where .If you wany to get out of this dam leauge .Then all the draws must be converted to wins .Xnd finish top of the pile . We really dont want the heart break of wrmbley for a second season .
 
Expect York and FGR to be strong again. Carlisle have basically been losing most weeks for the past few seasons and have Mark Hughes’s in charge. Feels a bit like when we went down and appt Phil Brown. Morecombe are a basket case of a club so could see them going down again. None of Scunny, Truro, Brackley, Maidenhead bother me too much. Would like to think we will be up there fighting for top 3 but a lot will depend on the start we make and whether there is a hangover from Wembley and of course recruitment
 
I'm hoping the taste of playing at wembley acts as a huge motivator and incentive to the players to turn those bore draws into cagey wins.
I think in any workplace, if youve achieved something exceptional in a business year and been rewarded with something truly memorable, it definitely increases your desire and makes you try even harder the following year to get it again.
I'm comfortable in my mind that by losing the play off final we eventually ended the season in 3rd not 7th.
Going into the season settled off the pitch and with a squad that's now hugely familiar is a massive advantage, plus it really helps when integrating what I suspect won't be that many new faces (but hopefully important ones).
I hope we get a home game first game of the season. Blow away the 3pm Saturday superstition s and trounce whoever we play.
 

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