Question Why've we a larger wage bill than clubs in higher divisions when we lose £1.2m pa?

[Beefy]

The wage budget will be everyone at the Club, including the non-playing staff. But what you are talking about is the case at every Club in the land. He referred last night to Paul Sturrock's budget being amongst the top seven in the division so I think you can read into that that he's talking about player wages.

 

[Ailsa Road Shrimper]

all this talk about us losing all this money makes me wonder, i can remember around two years ago we were making great strides in reducing our out goings and we were making profits in some areas of the club, since then we have got the big earners off the books and have made so many cutbacks so how the hell is the club losing 100k a month when not so long ago we were getting profits from certain areas, being a shareholder i have looked at the paper work side of things and their has been hell of alot of money go missing and ron martin has kept his mouth shut for far to long over the past few months and it dont take that much brains to realise money is getting taken out of the club by somebody, someone is telling pork pies somewhere still.

This is the view I share. The new stadium project must've cost a fortune during the last few years with all the fees it encompasses, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest who pays for these costs. My theory is much of this money has come from the club's coffers, with expensive wages used as a smokescreeen for the losses.

 

[* ORM *]

So how much are we loosing per month?

You can theorise all you like. For a club like ours to be losing that kind of money on our gates is nothing short of scandalous. The questions would seem simple. The answers, as always, are cloudy.

 

[EastStandBlue]

This is the view I share. The new stadium project must've cost a fortune during the last few years with all the fees it encompasses, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest who pays for these costs. My theory is much of this money has come from the club's coffers, with expensive wages used as a smokescreeen for the losses.

That theory doesn't bare much sense, though, as expensive wages would have to be paid anyway. If you're suggesting that RM has exaggerated the wages paid in the accounts to mask payments made for planning costs of the stadium, then that's tantamount to fraud and it wouldn't exactly be difficult to identify, seeing as the PAYE wouldn't match.

Posters such as Firestorm have analysed the accounts and found no evidence of excess costs leaving the club, and the simple fact is that we couldn't afford them anyway.

 

[Firestorm]

That theory doesn't bare much sense, though, as expensive wages would have to be paid anyway. If you're suggesting that RM has exaggerated the wages paid in the accounts to mask payments made for planning costs of the stadium, then that's tantamount to fraud and it wouldn't exactly be difficult to identify, seeing as the PAYE wouldn't match.

Posters such as Firestorm have analysed the accounts and found no evidence of excess costs leaving the club, and the simple fact is that we couldn't afford them anyway.

But nothing since 31/7/2009 and before anyone cries cover up, the accounts to 31/7/10 do not have to be published until the end of May so we are always going to be working, as non-insiders, at least 10 months behind

 

[The Big Dady]

Do not forget all the non playing staff below as shown on the clubs website.

Club Officials

As at 5th.Jan 2011

Chairman Ronald Martin

Chief Executive Tara Brady

Directors:
Michael Markscheffel
Frank Van Wezel
Geoffrey King
Nigel Brunning

Manager Paul Sturrock
Assistant Manager

Head of Sports Medicine Dr.Anthony Annan
Crowd Doctor Dr. AK Sinha
Head Physio Ben Clarkson
Conditioning Coach Lawrence Bloom

Head of Youth Ricky Duncan

COE Manager Luke Hobbs
Development Coach Mark Bonner

Club and Company Secretary Helen Norbury

Media Manager David Scriven

Corporate Sales Junior Garrod
Ticket Office Manager Gemma Tidd
Bars & Catering Manager Sharon Munro-Baxter
Stadium Manager David Jobson

Head Groundsman Ken Hare
Commercial Administrator Marisa Freeman
Marketing Executive Susannah Flood
Community Trust Steve Goodsell
Study Support Centre Simon Bell

Football League Regulation 92.1: "Each Club shall publish the identities of the ultimate owner (Person, not Entity) of each Significant Interest in the Club (as that term is defined in Rule 1.1 of Appendix 4). That information shall as a minimum be published on the Club's official website on a page accessible directly from the home page of that official club website. "

The ultimate owner for the purposes of the above Regulation is Ron Martin

 

[Jam_Man]

if we are losing 100k a month what are other clubs in our division losing ? we have an average 5,000 fans at home games other clubs get less than half and compete more than we do in the transfer markets, dont believe everything you hear on the radio as he is ron martins no 2 and they do tell you what you want hear after all.

Football clubs lose money. It's hardly unusual.

Other clubs will be losing money and some will be propped up by owners like we have been for years until the coffers ran dry.

Just look at col u. Smaller crowds and bigger wage bill all paid for by the chairman.

5000 crowds mean little recently as we have had almost no games and wages still need paying.