Question wheres all this money gone?

[hindle_666]

So we cant afford theo for 200000 plus add ons or offer clark a decent contract so whats happend to this money?



Eastwood = 1.5 m
Bailey = 400 to 750k (not replaced)
Macdonald = 50k profit
Hammell = 110k profit(not replaced)
Share money ?
Hooper = 125 to 175k profit
Man u and Spurs 2 games(budget free money)
Chelsea 2 times plus telly money ?(budget free money)
Jcr = 175k
Play off games inc 1 final (budget free money)
High Season ticket sales(inc championship season)
Gate receipts(inc championship)
Ldv cup runs
Double promotions



Thats just off the top of my head so proberly missed a few?

Come on the Uncle Ron brigade lets have the excuses.................

Wheres the warchest dont tell me.................in the new stadium.........
With no decent team whats the point..........Darlington springs to mind.

2.4 million losses last financial year inc championship season why?

With the money thats come in to the club since Tilly took over we should be in a great positon.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

So we cant afford theo for 200000 plus add ons or offer clark a decent contract so whats happend to this money?



Eastwood = 1.5 m
Bailey = 400 to 750k (not replaced)
Macdonald = 50k profit
Hammell = 110k profit(not replaced)
Share money ?
Hooper = 125 to 175k profit
Man u and Spurs 2 games(budget free money)
Chelsea 2 times plus telly money ?(budget free money)
Jcr = 175k
Play off games inc 1 final (budget free money)
High Season ticket sales(inc championship season)
Gate receipts(inc championship)
Ldv cup runs
Double promotions



Thats just off the top of my head so proberly missed a few?

Come on the Uncle Ron brigade lets have the excuses.................

Wheres the warchest dont tell me.................in the new stadium.........
With no decent team whats the point..........Darlington springs to mind.

2.4 million losses last financial year inc championship season why?

With the money thats come in to the club since Tilly took over we should be in a great positon.

Irate Ian strikes again!

 

[BrettieAngell]

What bears remembering is that not only do transfer fees pale in comparison to the cost of a stadium development, but that they're pretty small beer compared to the wage bill of a club like ours. Our wage bill has increased substantially as a result of playing in the Championship, and a couple of players on £2k per week will cost over £200,000 within a single year - before bonuses and other associated costs have been factored in. If we want to get back to a stage where we can look at attendances of 6,000 as a break even point, then we must first reduce our expenditure to the level it was at when that calculation was made. Yet when we don't offer players like Clarke more than we can afford, or throw £300,000 at a bidding war for a moderately successful youngster people scream blue murder. The club can't win.

Call me old fashioned, boring and all the rest but my primary concern is with having a club to support for the rest of my life. It's fine with me if we stand still for a bit until FF puts us in a position to really push on again. As I understand it, Colchester have put themselves in a position where in order to be financially viable without support from their chairman, they absolutely have to be in the Championship. To my mind, putting yourselves in a position whereby you're teetering on this magic carpet that could be whisked from underneath your feet at any moment is sheer lunacy. The club's first priority has to be to put itself on a steady footing, and until we have means by which to increase our revenue that's going to have to be by cutting expenditure, whether we like it or not.

try reading that you might learn something.

 

[Davros]

So we cant afford theo for 200000 plus add ons or offer clark a decent contract so whats happend to this money?



Eastwood = 1.5 m
Bailey = 400 to 750k (not replaced)
Macdonald = 50k profit
Hammell = 110k profit(not replaced)
Share money ?
Hooper = 125 to 175k profit
Man u and Spurs 2 games(budget free money)
Chelsea 2 times plus telly money ?(budget free money)
Jcr = 175k
Play off games inc 1 final (budget free money)
High Season ticket sales(inc championship season)
Gate receipts(inc championship)
Ldv cup runs
Double promotions



Thats just off the top of my head so proberly missed a few?

Come on the Uncle Ron brigade lets have the excuses.................

Wheres the warchest dont tell me.................in the new stadium.........
With no decent team whats the point..........Darlington springs to mind.

2.4 million losses last financial year inc championship season why?

With the money thats come in to the club since Tilly took over we should be in a great positon.

Because all businesses have expenditure, as well as income!!!!!!!

 

[hindle_666]

try reading that you might learn something.

Beleive a load of rubbish! not me thanks.
We have had the a small squad of about 20 players since Ron took over so hardly the chance of us being a club that pays the highest wages........
If so how can we not attract good players and keep hold of the ones we got?

 

[Grayson]

I've been studying TV money for my media exam next week as part of a research study I'm doing.

Next season, CCC clubs will be getting £2.9m from Sky Sports. We will get £440,000. That's larger than at current, but not a lot different.

Relegation cost us £2m or so.

 

[hindle_666]

Because all businesses have expenditure, as well as income!!!!!!!

what expenditure that we should have budgeted for so wheres the cup money?

 

[hindle_666]

I've been studying TV money for my media exam next week as part of a research study I'm doing.

Next season, CCC clubs will be getting £2.9m from Sky Sports. We will get £440,000. That's larger than at current, but not a lot different.

Relegation cost us £2m or so.

which should have been made up with selling eastwood plus the spurs (twice)and man u cup runs?

 

[fbm]

what expenditure that we should have budgeted for so wheres the cup money?

Most clubs run at a loss and a big one at that. We were lucky that we had the cup runs otherwise we would be well and truly in the mire.

Promotion to the CCC also cost us a lot of money as we had to pay competitive wages in order to compete. Foran and Paynter (to name but 2) were poor buys as it transpired and drained the club massively.

However, when youn recall the pressure Tilly was under to buy someone, anyone, then it's hardly surprising.

The fact is that small clubs need cup runs, transfer sales or big benefactors in order to survive and even then it's a struggle. I doubt there is a club in L1 or L2 that breaks even on budgets. Conference sides do as the wages are small in comparison. When you get into top half L1 or CCC the wage bill goes through the roof or your players go through the door. Agents are to thank for that.

Mark my words, football generally is in for a huge huge fall over the next couple of years. Setanta are in trouble and all it will need is for SKY's opposition to fall by the wayside and the TV revenues will plummet. The soppy fees paid for Ronaldo and Kaka recently cannot go on. The financial gulf between the Prem and CCC is enormous and all it will need is a couple more "big" teams like Newcastle to drop out and all of a sudden the whole game will need to be restructured.

It is not right that the weekly wage of 1 average Prem player can practically keep an entire L2 club running for a month.

Our club is not unique and is in a much better financial position than most L1 and L2 clubs.

However, if you want to support a club that breaks even without cup runs, Old Trafford is a long way away. Can't think of many others and none outside the Prem.

If you want to know about the clubs money, check the accounts. If you have the ability to enable CCC players to stay here on L2 wages, then I'm sure Ron and Tilly would love to hear from you.

Otherwise I'm afraid it's a fact of life when supporting SUFC.

 

[hindle_666]

Come on keep giving me red thats fine,but at least give a beleivable excuse.Red with no reply mmmmmmm,i expected better from uncle Rons nephews..........

 

[Homer]

Come on keep giving me red thats fine,but at least give a beleivable excuse.Red with no reply mmmmmmm,i expected better from uncle Rons nephews..........

is wiggy a relative of yours because if not you deserve to be with each other

 

[hindle_666]

Most clubs run at a loss and a big one at that. We were lucky that we had the cup runs otherwise we would be well and truly in the mire.

Promotion to the CCC also cost us a lot of money as we had to pay competitive wages in order to compete. Foran and Paynter (to name but 2) were poor buys as it transpired and drained the club massively.

However, when youn recall the pressure Tilly was under to buy someone, anyone, then it's hardly surprising.

The fact is that small clubs need cup runs, transfer sales or big benefactors in order to survive and even then it's a struggle. I doubt there is a club in L1 or L2 that breaks even on budgets. Conference sides do as the wages are small in comparison. When you get into top half L1 or CCC the wage bill goes through the roof or your players go through the door. Agents are to thank for that.

Mark my words, football generally is in for a huge huge fall over the next couple of years. Setanta are in trouble and all it will need is for SKY's opposition to fall by the wayside and the TV revenues will plummet. The soppy fees paid for Ronaldo and Kaka recently cannot go on. The financial gulf between the Prem and CCC is enormous and all it will need is a couple more "big" teams like Newcastle to drop out and all of a sudden the whole game will need to be restructured.

It is not right that the weekly wage of 1 average Prem player can practically keep an entire L2 club running for a month.

Our club is not unique and is in a much better financial position than most L1 and L2 clubs.

However, if you want to support a club that breaks even without cup runs, Old Trafford is a long way away. Can't think of many others and none outside the Prem.

If you want to know about the clubs money, check the accounts. If you have the ability to enable CCC players to stay here on L2 wages, then I'm sure Ron and Tilly would love to hear from you.

Otherwise I'm afraid it's a fact of life when supporting SUFC.

I thought according to the club we pay high wages so why are we losing out on players from teams in our league ?

 

[undercovershrimper]

900k went on the public inquiry into the stadium!

 

[Homer]

what expenditure that we should have budgeted for so wheres the cup money?

probaly sitting in a bank somewhere outiside the UK hopefully getting better interest than being stuck in a UK Bank

 

[BoyWonder2]

I thought according to the club we pay high wages so why are we losing out on players from teams in our league ?

Because what is high for us and what is high for someone like a Leeds or a Huddersfield or even a Colchester are two completely different things.

Someone mentioned or just suggested that Clarke was on £3K a week, the three Clubs I've listed can easily offer that and they still wouldn't be the top earners at the Club.

All the monies in you've listed can easily be covered by things like decreased attendances, policing costs, decrease in television money, higher wages, transfer fees paid, catering, drinks etc etc.

 

[undercovershrimper]

we have to face reality were a L1 club, at this level no matter how well you do, if you dont go up you face the reality of losing your best players as we have bailey, flavs, gower, jcr, without getting too much for them if anything. Clarke has gone coz he wants to go back up north. Any profits we make from player sales will go towards making up the loss that any club at our level runs at. If we want to run at break even, we would need our L1 crowds with the players on L2 wages and that aint gonna happen!

 

[Rob1920]

So we cant afford theo for 200000 plus add ons or offer clark a decent contract so whats happend to this money?



Eastwood = 1.5 m
Bailey = 400 to 750k (not replaced)
Macdonald = 50k profit
Hammell = 110k profit(not replaced)
Share money ?
Hooper = 125 to 175k profit
Man u and Spurs 2 games(budget free money)
Chelsea 2 times plus telly money ?(budget free money)
Jcr = 175k
Play off games inc 1 final (budget free money)
High Season ticket sales(inc championship season)
Gate receipts(inc championship)
Ldv cup runs
Double promotions



Thats just off the top of my head so proberly missed a few?

Come on the Uncle Ron brigade lets have the excuses.................

Wheres the warchest dont tell me.................in the new stadium.........
With no decent team whats the point..........Darlington springs to mind.

2.4 million losses last financial year inc championship season why?

With the money thats come in to the club since Tilly took over we should be in a great positon.

Read the club's accounts. They're a public document. if you don't think the figures add up take it up with RM. However anyone who's ever run their own business, employed staff and has a basic understanding of maths could soon tell you where the money's gone, and unless he's an out & out crook with a very bent accountant I can say with a fair degree of certainty its not gone in Ron's pocket, more like out of it.

 

[Homer]

900k went on the public inquiry into the stadium!

that money was set aside from RM many business interest and not player transfer money or cup runs

he has already stated that no club money has been used for the stadium
inquiry, in one of his many blogs

 

[undercovershrimper]

I thought according to the club we pay high wages,so why are we losing out on players to teams in our league?

Only to those like Clarke and Barrett who signed on Champ wages, and im sure they arent getting those wages now, as is the way with modern contracts.

Clarke leaving had nothing to do with wages.

Brighton and Swindon have recently been bought by rich owners who want to make a good impression by splashing a bit of cash to win over the fans. I would rather miss out on the likes of Robinson and Dervite than not have a club to support.

 

[undercovershrimper]

that money was set aside from RM many business interest and not player transfer money or cup runs

he has already stated that no club money has been used for the stadium
inquiry, in one of his many blogs

its still 900k that he could have put in for transfers that has had to be spent else where