W block reminder....

[Supa Shrimpa]

Exactly, my point !!!!

 

[HudsonNo1]

Unless you buy a ticket with every person you want to sit with every game as the rules stand you cannot sit with your mates which defeats the whole object of a singing area as you often need those around you to back you when a song gets going.

im sorry, just can't see your point of view.. I only go with the Mrs who doesn't sing, but I'm always involved in chants and don't feel like I need a group with me.... Buy them early enough and you would be able to get seats all together surely

 

[DTS]

im sorry, just can't see your point of view.. I only go with the Mrs who doesn't sing, but I'm always involved in chants and don't feel like I need a group with me.... Buy them early enough and you would be able to get seats all together surely

You sit with one person. The back of the west there are say a core of 20/30 good lads that stand in the same area. I am hardly likely to start trying to organise all those people so we can sit next to each other. The idea of a standing area is that you stand with your mates without too much planning.

 

[HudsonNo1]

You sit with one person. The back of the west there are say a core of 20/30 good lads that stand in the same area. I am hardly likely to start trying to organise all those people so we can sit next to each other. The idea of a standing area is that you stand with your mates without too much planning.

you combined my points together... Sitting with one person I was referring to the chanting and not needing to be backed up with it, not the seating.. I can imagine it would be a challenge, but not impossible if u wanted to do it that much... Like I said, do it in advance enough and I'm sure you could.

 

[Ramsdenblue]

It's a real shame to see this happening.

A lot of hard work was put in by a number of people as far back as 2008 to get this area of the ground recognised for its atmosphere. Seems as though a few wannabe football factory ultra type children have pretty much undone all the hard work and very quickly.

My suggestion would be as OBL says, a rep for TBV needs to meet with SK and get this sorted. But also perhaps the more Senior people involved with TBV need to be more on top of things and "self-police" within W. This includes making sure no more idiots decide to launch smoke bombs and get the block shut for good. If this means an old skool clip round the ear or a "friendly" word in the ear then so be it. The old North Bank boys would of done just that. :hilarious:

I agree, but most of the more senior persons within W block tend to stand from the middle of the block and up to the back of the block, leaving the younger persons from the middle, down to the front of the block, there are persons from the upper section of W who do shout down to the younger persons to either pack it in, or to sing louder, but cannot control the actions of those someway below us, it would proberly help if those regulers down towards the front kept an eye on things.

Snr.

 

[united we stand]

Not quite sure what the situation is here. I am not anti-TBV but I don't understand why stewards got aggravation because they had to enforce people sitting where they were supposed to sit? Is there a suggestion that some people expect special dispensation because they are a self-elected 'groupie band?' Surely you buy a ticket with a seat number on and you sit in that seat?

If there have been 'incidents' in the past that has brought this about then it's not the club that is to blame.

I appreciate that many like to band (no pun intended) together but any seated venue I go to, theatre, cinema etc involves sitting in designated seats. Is that so hard to do?

You answered yourself in the first sentence. Fans have been following the rules for over 5 years. The rules have changed. Most fans don't they have changed. See my earlier post for simple solutions.

 

[Cockle43]

It's a real shame to see this happening.

A lot of hard work was put in by a number of people as far back as 2008 to get this area of the ground recognised for its atmosphere. Seems as though a few wannabe football factory ultra type children have pretty much undone all the hard work and very quickly.

My suggestion would be as OBL says, a rep for TBV needs to meet with SK and get this sorted. But also perhaps the more Senior people involved with TBV need to be more on top of things and "self-police" within W. This includes making sure no more idiots decide to launch smoke bombs and get the block shut for good. If this means an old skool clip round the ear or a "friendly" word in the ear then so be it. The old North Bank boys would of done just that. :hilarious:

I do have a season ticket down in Row D and try and do exactly what you suggest, Smiffy, as you know TBV has never really had anyone 'in charge' as such, much in the spirit of the old North Bank.

I do try and have a bit of a verbal influence with the odd 'advisory' words but unfortunately the 'old skool clip round the ear' is totally out of the question with Candid Camera watching our every move; in fact an individual who did exactly that last season ended up with it turning into a bit more and ended up with being banned by the club for the rest of the season.....

I also tend to agree that the club could have done a bit more to make it clearer exactly what was going to happen and how it would be policed. Things like being given a four day window in which to transfer your season ticket to W with no further transfers being allowed is hardly conducive to good relations.
Personally, I have only seen the new arrangements aired on a thread on here and a news item on the OS when they announced the four day ST transfer window, not everyone comes on SZ and/or reads the OS, I tried to put it around as many people as possible but it shouldn't really have been left, to almost, word of mouth.

The guys I feel sorry for in this situation are the stewards, who are paid barely minimum wage and are on the whole pretty easy to deal with, who were left between a rock and a hard place on Saturday.

 

[Jam_Man]

Seems pretty clear that 90% of the issue is lack of communication. There will be people who dont like the changes and will cause aggravation over it anyway, but by clearer communication most of it would have been averted.

The worst thing is hearing that people may have come to their first game and found themselves in a block which might have put them off returning.

 

[DTS]

you combined my points together... Sitting with one person I was referring to the chanting and not needing to be backed up with it, not the seating.. I can imagine it would be a challenge, but not impossible if u wanted to do it that much... Like I said, do it in advance enough and I'm sure you could.

To explain what happens in the upper of W block. There is a big bald fella who actually stands in V who I think is related to Ginger Lee. really good lad who comes with his son who is say 25-30. They start most of the stuff that comes form the back. This then spreads to W block and I and say 15 odd blokes around me then tend to join in. Then the middle hears in and joins in and before you know it W block is rocking.

If you start it on your own and the people round you don't join you then you can look a tit. Hence it is easier to have your mates with you. Proof was in the pudding on saturday when half the usual W capacity was scattered in V

As a test why dont you and your Mrs start a chant this weekend and see how well that goes?

 

[HudsonNo1]

To explain what happens in the upper of W block. There is a big bald fella who actually stands in V who I think is related to Ginger Lee. really good lad who comes with his son who is say 25-30. They start most of the stuff that comes form the back. This then spreads to W block and I and say 15 odd blokes around me then tend to join in. Then the middle hears in and joins in and before you know it W block is rocking.

If you start it on your own and the people round you don't join you then you can look a tit. Hence it is easier to have your mates with you. Proof was in the pudding on saturday when half the usual W capacity was scattered in V

As a test why dont you and your Mrs start a chant this weekend and see how well that goes?

mate your assuming I sit their quietly like a choir boy... I've started many chants and looked a tit many times.. I don't disagree with what your saying completely. I just don't see it being a massive problem having to get tickets together.