Question Tonights Blame

[TrueBlue]

who is more at fault here in your opinion the keeper or the defence?

 

[Gremlin]

Where's the "idiot supporters who ruin the confidence of players in key positions" option?

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Glad to see the midfield are blameless.

 

[TrueBlue]

Glad to see the midfield are blameless.

No they are not but I think its a two horse race between the keeper and the defence

 

[shrimpled]

Everyone who crosses that white line in a blue shirt has to take some responsibly. We defend as a team, we win as a team and we lose as a team. Away from that the fans are also part of that team. As for the question, the defence was much more useless than Mildenhall.

 

[Southminster_Shrimper]

Midfield.....Sawyer did well today in a more creative role.

Wheres the ball winner? Wheres the player to break up play?

Ahhhhhh yes, hes called Macca and hes injured.

Hes the sort of player to help out the defence by breaking up an attack before it gets too near our defence. At the moment nobody wants to make a tackle in the midfield.

Dont think the keeper is great but it certainly aint all his fault by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[TBV_Dan]

From what i've seen so far this season, the defence have left the keeper vunerable to attack, hence the reason we are conceeding so many goals, Defenders, sort it out!

 

[Beefy]

Individual errors from the back four and a formation which the midfielders didn't understand were at fault.

Barrett has had some cracking games at left-back in the past but he was completely out of position for the first two goals.

 

[CocklesShrimps&Whiteweed]

Individual errors from the back four and a formation which the midfielders didn't understand were at fault.

Barrett has had some cracking games at left-back in the past but he was completely out of position for the first two goals.

Have to agree with Beefy here, the back four were not working as a unit despite our keeper screaming orders at them for ninety minutes (don't remember flav's doing that) however, if I were Tilly I would have stuck Joyce in goal tonight.

 

[Shrimp Curry]

Our defence is poor and it has been for the last couple of years. The fact is last year despite the fact we had a superb midfield we conceded too many goals, we scored something like the second most goals in the division but we still only managed to finish 6th. This year our midfield is very weak and our defence is more exposed. Dont be suprised if we ship 4 or 5 on numerous occasions this year. And for what its worth I think Peter Clarke has a lot to do with it, our defence has been poor ever since he signed.

 

[sufcalways]

I would say both, but as there isnt that option i believe it was more goalkeeper than defence. Mildy didnt have a good game and his positioning for first goal was appauling. The third goal however was a bit of both, defence letting orient player dwell in the box for a few seconds and pick his spot up high where Mildy shouldnt get beat.

 

[Fiftyone]

I blame TBV - where's the option to vote for them?.:thumbdown:

 

[Beefy]

I would say both, but as there isnt that option i believe it was more goalkeeper than defence. Mildy didnt have a good game and his positioning for first goal was appauling. The third goal however was a bit of both, defence letting orient player dwell in the box for a few seconds and pick his spot up high where Mildy shouldnt get beat.

The first goal wasn't down to Mildenhall's positioning, it was down to Barrett's positioning (ie being caught offside in their penalty area 15 seconds earlier). With no one from midfield covering Orient had so much space to spread the play and could have carved out opportunities for at least two or three players.

 

[Welly7]

Have to agree with Beefy here, the back four were not working as a unit despite our keeper screaming orders at them for ninety minutes (don't remember flav's doing that) however, if I were Tilly I would have stuck Joyce in goal tonight.

Sticking Joyce in goal would have been crazy and it won't happen. If an experienced keeper like Mildenhall looks nervous in front of the home fans then what do you think would happen to the inexperienced Joyce? Wasn't it Ryan Robinson who had his confidence ruined after a couple of errors during a loan spell from Blackburn a few years back?

As for the defence, well I thought they were embarrassing tonight. Couldn't close down, mark men, stop crosses coming in, win headers or pass to a blue shirt.
In goal Mildenhall wasn't much better. He was more than at fault for their opener, so slow to react. He seemed to dive out of the way of the ball!! His positioning really concerns me too!

 

[RobM]

The second goal? Oceans of space down their right for the player to cross at leisure.

 

[smudgster]

No one else think Tilson to blame in any way ? I thought the tactics tonight were appalling. Whenever we come away from our 442 we struggle. Even in pre season we looked awfull against youngsters from Canvey etc playing this diamond formation.

 

[westmartin]

Sticking Joyce in goal would have been crazy and it won't happen. If an experienced keeper like Mildenhall looks nervous in front of the home fans then what do you think would happen to the inexperienced Joyce? Wasn't it Ryan Robinson who had his confidence ruined after a couple of errors during a loan spell from Blackburn a few years back?

As for the defence, well I thought they were embarrassing tonight. Couldn't close down, mark men, stop crosses coming in, win headers or pass to a blue shirt.
In goal Mildenhall wasn't much better. He was more than at fault for their opener, so slow to react. He seemed to dive out of the way of the ball!! His positioning really concerns me too!

I think your find Ian Joyce is injured (ankle) I said before and i will say again maybe we should be looking at Lee Turner as the goalie coach

 

[OldBlueLady]

I think your find Ian Joyce is injured (ankle) I said before and i will say again maybe we should be looking at Lee Turner as the goalie coach

Maybe we should be looking at putting Lee Turner in goal!

 

[Rayleigh Weir]

I'm not really about assigning blame unless someone's made (repeatedly making) an obvious howler. It's harsh to blame Mildenhall he was the last exposed line of a carved open defence. It's harsh to blame Barrett, he was trying to get forward as he's been told full-backs need to do.

What was missing for me tonight was a Bailey-shaped hole in the middle of the park. Bailey's big strength wasn't the things that made him popular with most fans - the tough tackling, the boundless energy, chasing people down, and popping up in and around the box with a wellied goal - those type of midfielders are far more common than the other Bailey trait which was covering the defence, almost predicting where attacks are building from and snuffing them out. The new guys are working fairly hard at tackling back, but they just don't seem to have the reading of the game that the ginger dynamo had (Lewis Hunt was also massively under-rated for his part of his play). Perhaps all the parts of Bailey's brain responsible for speech and tact and empathy with the fans is instead devoted to football?

I know Bailey's gone, but for me we're not doing a lot different defensively this year, it's just that we're not getting away with the weaknesses we've always had because now we haven't got the midfield that can 'Bailey' us out...

 

[Rayleigh Blue]

its not just the defence, we have no midfield this is leaving the defence open to attack, what was the formation last night?