Timlin's sending off

[Massimo Giovanni]

The first yellow may have been ok in that the ref showed the card as it was 20 odd minutes in and the tempo of tackles was rising and the ref thought he should show his presence and calm it all down a bit. It was Timlin's first real tackle and usually would have been just words except ref wanted (IMO) to set a bench make against sliding tackles on a damp pitch. the 2nd card was a too quick in the ref in going to his pocket and then not having time or confidence to amend a hasty decision. When he saw it was 2 yellows to red my money is on ref thinking "balls, wish I hadn't been so hasty and it wasn't the same player just booked" etc. He must have known he was ruining the game and as such would get marked down by his assessor.

 

[South Bank Hank]

When he saw it was 2 yellows to red my money is on ref thinking "balls, wish I hadn't been so hasty and it wasn't the same player just booked" etc. He must have known he was ruining the game and as such would get marked down by his assessor.

Do we know this for sure?

Surely the assessor would be looking only at the correct use of a yellow card for a yellow card offense? Much as the human being in a referee often thinks it, the laws of the game don't allow for a 'yeah it's a yellow but I'd have to send him off' debate?

EDIT: For what it's worth, I just watched the highlights and the second booking is ridiculous.

 

[Suffolk Blue]

A report from the director's box was that the assessor was none too happy with the referee over the sending off. Is there any way that us mere mortals can find out when a referee has been deemed to have a nightmare?

 

[The General]

Im sorry but thats a horrible decision!

 

[South Bucks Shrimper]

It is the inconsistency that I hate. The ref did not show another yellow card throughout the rest of the game, but there were far worse challenges than the two for which Timlin got booked.

 

[Rattus Norvegicus]

It is the inconsistency that I hate. The ref did not show another yellow card throughout the rest of the game, but there were far worse challenges than the two for which Timlin got booked.

Errhh yes. That. Ditto. Sort of.

I am not one to shout for players to be booked and I think referees have a very hard job as it is - and in part made worse by some players who feign injury and who look for the referee to blow for a foul ......

..... but in stark contrast to my sentance above I do find it fustrating when a very similar offence later in the game leads to .......... yes, you guessed it, no response at all from the referee ......... not even a warning off the ball at the next convenient moment.

And a further contradictory statement is that I hate having the rules of the game changed (by interfering Eurocrats who depise the strength and depth of English football) ....... but even I am beginning to lose patience with the current system where two (sometimes minor) infringements leads to a player being sent from the pitch. Oh how I long for the 1980s when you could see two players touch each other and neither would wilt from a challenge.

I feel better after having got that off my grey haired chest .......................:raspberry:

 

[OldBlueLady]

Only just got round to looking at the highlights. Can see that the 1st one would be a booking for lots of refs but the 2nd, that's just a hideously bad decision. Never in a million years was it a yellow card imho!

 

[Blueeyedboy1965]

I had too rewind the highlights 2-3times to make sure i was watching the right tackle! lol. The Ox player fell over his own feet! :smile:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Looked like a justified(though harsh and unecessary) sending off to me as PS recognised in his post match interview.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Looked like a justified(though harsh and unecessary) sending off to me as PS recognised in his post match interview.

I'd never have called it justified! It was at worst a slightly clumsy clip...never a yellow, let alone a 2nd one.

 

[Ayrshire Blue]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion but I think Timms was lucky not to see red for his first yellow. He leaves the floor with both feet, although only one leg is extended and does jump into the challenge. I think this was possibly in the back of the refs mind which is why he received a harsh 2nd yellow.

 

[Mick]

A report from the director's box was that the assessor was none too happy with the referee over the sending off. Is there any way that us mere mortals can find out when a referee has been deemed to have a nightmare?

Absolutely not. The assessor's report is confidential and should not find its way into the public domain.

The difficulty comes when a referee makes one very poor decision (and, for me, that was a very poor decision) in an otherwise sound match. If a referee makes an incorrect decision which is viewed as match changing his mark will be capped at a certain level, I believe it used to be around the 70 mark.

 

[Mick]

A report from the director's box was that the assessor was none too happy with the referee over the sending off. Is there any way that us mere mortals can find out when a referee has been deemed to have a nightmare?

If the assessor made it clear he was unhappy with the decision, that is very unprofessional.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Absolutely not. The assessor's report is confidential and should not find its way into the public domain.

The difficulty comes when a referee makes one very poor decision (and, for me, that was a very poor decision) in an otherwise sound match. If a referee makes an incorrect decision which is viewed as match changing his mark will be capped at a certain level, I believe it used to be around the 70 mark.

And for us mere mortals that means what?

 

[Beverly Hills Cop Blue]

I too said to a friend on wednesday that Timlin was putting himself in danger of a straight red with the challenge that earned him a yellow. I've seen straight reds given for a little less but personally what Timlin did didn't quite merit that particular colour but yellow was derserved. The actual challenge that saw him dismissed for me wasn't even a yellow. But the timing of it, so soon after his first booking, meant it was very fresh in the referee's mind therefore wrongly may have felt Timlin was on a crusade to lay into people in quick succession. That said the player put himself in the firing line of the ref plus under extra unnecessary pressure himself with his deserved first yellow. Just maybe Timlin should have called upon the benefits of his experience in such moments. A lesson to be learned for all players though.

 

[Blues 'n twos]

Looked like a justified(though harsh and unecessary) sending off to me as PS recognised in his post match interview.

What are they putting in the water where you are?? If that was a second yellow card a lot of teams this year are going to finish games with just the keeper on the pitch, what has happened to our game?:nope::nope:

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Seen the sky sports highlights and the ref wanted Timlin off. The second yellow is an absolute joke.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

What are they putting in the water where you are?? If that was a second yellow card a lot of teams this year are going to finish games with just the keeper on the pitch, what has happened to our game?:nope::nope:

If you raise your hands to someone on a football pitch(even if it's for a senseless push)that's a bookable offence.

 

[Mick]

If you raise your hands to someone on a football pitch(even if it's for a senseless push)that's a bookable offence.

No, it's not. Although it will usually lead to a yellow for one of the actual categories of offence or sometimes a red for violent conduct.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

No, it's not. Although it will usually lead to a yellow for one of the actual categories of offence or sometimes a red for violent conduct.

In which case,I'd imagine you'd agree that Timlin's petulant push justified a yellow card?:unsure: While it may have been "a poor decision",as you say,I really don't think Timlin left the referee with too much choice.
FWIW, I tend to agree with Pubey's and AB's comments above.It also seemed to me that Timlin "lost it" after the first booking and was almost deliberately trying to get himself sent off afterwards.Very unprofessional from a player I have quite a lot of time for.