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Tilson thwarted on second signing

Hayes was the man we are/were after - the deal could still go through when the loan market re-opens though, come next week ...
 
I believe it was Graham Shankville, a slight centre-forward from Chortley Wanderers, who had been linked with us once before in 1985. If I remember correctly, Shankville was on the verge of signing a two-and-a-half year contract with the Shrimpers when the deal fell through on account that he only had one leg. I guess he must have worked at his game over the past two decades ...

Yes I believe Graham was Hopping mad at not being able to sign
 
Hayes was the man we are/were after - the deal could still go through when the loan market re-opens though, come next week ...

Hayes was talking to Orient until 8-30pm deadline so I dont think we were after him in any serious manner.

After all if he was up for joining them he would have jumped at the chance with us.
 
PBOREHAM If you dont care what anybody says then surely its a bit pointless joining in on adiscussion forum:mad: but however what would be the point of keeping unhappy and therefore disruptive players and pboreham , you like so many seem to think that there is a magical place where football managers can go and pick up just as many identikit pro footballers of the shelf who are just able to play in the right position for the right money at the right age ,willing to move their famillies , etc etc etc . Why dont you let Tilly in on the whereabouts of this secret sweety shop that you seem to have identified . It would make things so much easier for us all.:thump:
 
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Shankville was on the verge of signing a two-and-a-half year contract with the Shrimpers when the deal fell through on account that he only had one leg.
Mike. I know, from the War & Peacelike history that you are currently engaged on, you have a bountiful knowledge of all things SUFC. But this is patently a misleading story about which you must have become confused during all those hours of Synchronised Mediterranean Toe Dipping.

As you will now remember we have only ever tried to sign one one-legged footballer and unfortunately the deal went through despite the player being a monopod? (can't find the right word). You were close with Shankville's 1st name as of course I refer to the only and only Graeme Jones! :guns: Unfortunately his rather rusty prosthetic limb (or was it both legs?) made out of recycled baked bean tins was not spotted during the club medical nor the fact that one of his feet faced the wong way (or was that both?). :flamer: At the age of 108 when signing, many fans also felt that the 20 year contract offered by Rod Norman was a tad excessive.

I hope that clears that little matter up for you. :rolleyes:
 
PBOREHAM If you dont care what anybody says then surely its a bit pointless joining in on adiscussion forum:mad: but however what would be the point of keeping unhappy and therefore disruptive players and pboreham , you like so many seem to think that there is a magical place where football managers can go and pick up just as many identikit pro footballers of the shelf who are just able to play in the right position for the right money at the right age ,willing to move their famillies , etc etc etc . Why dont you let Tilly in on the whereabouts of this secret sweety shop that you seem to have identified . It would make things so much easier for us all.:thump:

Sorry, I just cannot believe people are being so short sighted. To have 31 days to bring IN sufficient players, not ship 5/6 out of a small squad and do virtually nothing is madness.

Did Ron Martin not say that if the stadium got the green light, then he would hand Tilly some big funds to strengthen to side?

The 'magical sweetshop' you so beautifully describe, consists of around 2500+ football league players in England - your telling me we couldnt find a midfielder in that lot? I'd question that very strongly...

Some of the players snapped up that would have done a job for us (and probably would have wanted to join to) from the sweetshop;

Nick Ward (QPR -> Brighton)
Leon Knight (Swansea -> MK Dons)
Pawel Abbot (Huddersfield -> Swansea)
Micah Hyde (Burnley -> Peterborough)

Then look at players we 'supposedly' missed out on like Hayes, Currie, Yeates etc.

I accept it isnt as easy as pie to get players in, but 6 clubs managed it ok with us and the hundreds of transfers done in Jan seem to have got the hang of it.

I'll say no more, because only time will tell if reducing the squad so drastically will mean the difference between League 1 and Championship football next year. If some of you want to continue to be blinded by 'Tilly can do no wrong' then go ahead...
 
Dont think its Tilly i think ron being a bit tight saving money where ever he can.
 
Nick Ward (QPR -> Brighton)
Leon Knight (Swansea -> MK Dons)
Pawel Abbot (Huddersfield -> Swansea)
Micah Hyde (Burnley -> Peterborough)


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3 of those 4 players have gone down a division, doesn't that tell you something about them ??
 
I know it's not SUFC-related but it's kinda related to pboreham's point above: CD Javea just recently got rid of six players without making any provision for bringing in any replacements, leaving us with 8 (eight) fit first-team players for this weekend's tough away game at Torrellano; the board of directors continue to wonder why the club is fourth from bottom. (Ah! To keep it SUFC-related, former loanee Kenny Brown is gaffer!)

A brief look at the SUFC 'plantilla' suggests that we are sailing very close to the wind with regards to suspensions and injuries. I know Tilson said that he's planning to bring in "three or four" loan players to cover but I don't see how that can work to build a consistent squad these days, and in particular, "build for the future"? I think Señor Boreham is right: it should be a great concern to everyone that Tilson cannot appear to attract players at the moment.

 
Nick Ward (QPR -> Brighton)
Leon Knight (Swansea -> MK Dons)
Pawel Abbot (Huddersfield -> Swansea)
Micah Hyde (Burnley -> Peterborough)


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3 of those 4 players have gone down a division, doesn't that tell you something about them ??

Yea, fair point - but doesnt actually prove that much does it? Look at Michael Kightly - did anyone think that when we released him he would one day be at Wolves and courted by Man U?

Just because players are stepping back, is not to say they arent good enough. Abbot could end up with 20 goals in the Championship next season, whilst Foran gets released from our League 1 strugglers.

I would have certainly taken at least any 3 of those 4. For all his attitude, who wouldnt have been excited with an Eastwood/Knight partnership for the run-in? (you would you rather an Eastwood/Bradbury/Harrold one?). Hyde would have been perfect cover for either Maher or Gutts and would have given us great competition there - remember, Hyde was a regular for Burnley this season and is now Posh's captain.

Nick Ward is a quality player and quite what QPR are doing releasing him to Brighton is very odd...
 
Yea, fair point - but doesnt actually prove that much does it? Look at Michael Kightly - did anyone think that when we released him he would one day be at Wolves and courted by Man U?

Just because players are stepping back, is not to say they arent good enough. Abbot could end up with 20 goals in the Championship next season, whilst Foran gets released from our League 1 strugglers.

I would have certainly taken at least any 3 of those 4. For all his attitude, who wouldnt have been excited with an Eastwood/Knight partnership for the run-in? (you would you rather an Eastwood/Bradbury/Harrold one?). Hyde would have been perfect cover for either Maher or Gutts and would have given us great competition there - remember, Hyde was a regular for Burnley this season and is now Posh's captain.

Nick Ward is a quality player and quite what QPR are doing releasing him to Brighton is very odd...

I'd have taken Ward based on what we saw earlier in the season and from what i've seen on tv. I wouldn't have gone near Abbott or Knight. Abbott seemed to have been afflicted by David Johnson syndrome and Knight, I feel, would have done more harm than good to our fighting cause.

Hyde's an interesting one. I'm pretty sure Peterborough are spending a fair whack trying to get players in right now. I'm not sure I would have liked what we'd have had to pay.
 
Then look at players we 'supposedly' missed out on like Hayes, Currie

Hannibal Hayes and Kid Currie? Alias Smith and Jones? Do we really need to be signing Outlaws? Who you going to suggest next? Billy the Kid, Jesse and Frank James? C'mon get real.

:p
 
Dont think its Tilly i think ron being a bit tight saving money where ever he can.

I don't believe that for a minute. The new stadium and commitment to keep Freddy even in the face of serious offers from other clubs ought to show that Ron has ambitions for the development of the club. Of course we can't afford to have players that are asking for huge wages but with the new stadium, who knows what might happen?!

For the moment, I have belief in the current side to drag us out of the bottom three and maybe even to finish quite respectably in the table :)
 

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