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My god Iv'e never read some rubbish from people (sorry OBL) that the pitch is a disgrace because of some sort of a 3 week delay!

I work at a championship golf course, (greenkeeper) and if our greens (all year round) were anyway like Roots Hall we would all get the sack. Of course I am not suggesting that RH should be like a golf course green! But I'm not saying, that all apart we have (at our hotel) a football pitch which I would say is of premiership quality, and have had many top teams train there, if especially they have a game in the London area.

IMO something has happened which is not acceptable, as we have always had a brilliant pitch at RH

There is no excuse for the poor pitch at the start of the season.

That's what I've been saying all along, that's it's to do with the science behind growing a new pitch. Either SUFC have not payed for the right materials to do a good job, or the groundsman has got it wrong. The pitch is clearly too spongy and the top inch or so seems to be sliding/rolling on the sand/soil mixture underneath. The bits that slip are then divots because the grass roots are not holding on deep enough.
This is what John Ledwidge the head Grounsdman at Leicester says.......Ledwidge, now 29, may not have gone on to traditional further education, but his academic ability has certainly helped him in a career that is about so much more than just 'mowing the lawn'.

Gone are the days when pitches would be worn out by the end of autumn and the image of one man and his fork desperately, but futilely, trying to repair huge divots in a pitch at half-time are a thing of the past. (Made me laugh that bit. He should come down to Roots Hall at half time)

These days a modern groundsman must be a scientist, accountant, artist, a great communicator and a man manager as well as a horticulturist.

"The role has changed quite a lot in the 16 years I have been around it," he says.

"I have seen it evolve from the perception that it is one old man with a gammy leg pushing a mower and rolling mud.

"There is still that stigma attached but, if you look around the Premier League and into the Championship now, the standard of the pitches has risen enormously and the science involved is quite in-depth.

"We are well-respected now and there is a young generation coming through, but I guess we will always be perceived as just grass cutters."
 
We discussed the pitch at our recent liaison meeting as, obviously, it's a huge concern. I won't say too much yet as the Minutes haven't been signed off - but it is nothing to do with groundsmen and more to do with a situation out of the club's control, which meant it was later being laid than it should have been meaning it's not had the chance to "bed in". It's hoped with some TLC over the next couple of weeks, that it will show signs of improvement.

"out of the club's control" or "outside of the club's ability to control" ?

I look forward to finding out what could possibly be out of the club's control in respect of preparing the pitch.
 
"out of the club's control" or "outside of the club's ability to control" ?

I look forward to finding out what could possibly be out of the club's control in respect of preparing the pitch.
Both, kinda.
 
Do we all remember the joke of a pitch at the scum stadium when the goal was like a sand pit .And Adam Barrett sunk in it .Do we want to get tarred with that brush .Surly something can be done as a matter of priority before we loose even more players to injury .How long does it take to rip up that mess and lay turfs instead of seed .
 
...also, what sort of impression does that send to the likes of Kieran Richardson who were watching us on Sat, with a view to signing ? Makes us look such a tinpot outfit ! :thumbdown:
 
I thought the pitch is normally replaced, but this time they just seeded it for some strange reason, I'm sure that's what I read?
 
Does having too much sand under the turf have anything to do with it as I see a lot of sandy colours whenever a divit comes up?:unsure:
 
We discussed the pitch at our recent liaison meeting as, obviously, it's a huge concern. I won't say too much yet as the Minutes haven't been signed off - but it is nothing to do with groundsmen and more to do with a situation out of the club's control, which meant it was later being laid than it should have been meaning it's not had the chance to "bed in". It's hoped with some TLC over the next couple of weeks, that it will show signs of improvement.

that doesn't make sense to me, it would explain it being crap on the first day of the season, but not crap now as we have now caught up those 3 weeks
 
that doesn't make sense to me, it would explain it being crap on the first day of the season, but not crap now as we have now caught up those 3 weeks

But we haven't because it should have been untouched through that period. That's the problem. I think they would do as well to try and re-schedule a home game to give it a 3 week break.
 
Grammatically, it's perfectly correct for Crowstone Crevette to describe himself as a pedant. this, in turn, could make his comment pedantic.:dim:

Pedants usually are pedantic. (I should know).:winking:

Btw saw much better grass on our recent holiday in Norway and Sweden than on the RH pitch recently.Perhaps some could be sourced there? :unsure:
 
Why can't we just hoof balls up to the parts of the pitch that are cut up and hope for a dodgy bounce?
 
Mate of mine (on here as Tin Bath but hasn't been on for a while) says this:

I've forgotten my log in but I'm 90% sure they have a leatherjackets or plant parasitic nematodes in the pitch eating the roots of the grass.

He's a groundsman at a local golf club, so I would say he could be right...
 
Mate of mine (on here as Tin Bath but hasn't been on for a while) says this:

I've forgotten my log in but I'm 90% sure they have a leatherjackets or plant parasitic nematodes in the pitch eating the roots of the grass.

He's a groundsman at a local golf club, so I would say he could be right...

Surely some harsh pesticides could sort that out?
 
Mate of mine (on here as Tin Bath but hasn't been on for a while) says this:

I've forgotten my log in but I'm 90% sure they have a leatherjackets or plant parasitic nematodes in the pitch eating the roots of the grass.

He's a groundsman at a local golf club, so I would say he could be right...

Having looked that up, that wouldn't be the case at Roots Hall even if it was infested. The timing is wrong. The Leatherjackets are the larvae of crane fly(daddy long legs). Plant parasitic nematodes is the stuff it is treated with to kill it. The larvae pupate in summer and emerge as daddy long legs in August. In September is when the new eggs are laid and you are meant to treat it with parasitic nematodes (A microscopic transparent worm that feeds and multiplies within the larvae) in mid September.
http://baytree-gardencentre.com/ocart/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=100004465
 
I have a conspiracy theory.

Uncle Ron has found out how much more money he can make if we had a plastic pitch & if he made an absolute pigs ear of it this season then he will get much more backing for putting this in ..... either in his brand new stadium , (which will be ready in 2027 :winking:) , or at crumbling Roots Hall for the next 10 years

We can then rent out the pitch 24/7 , we can flog the lawn mower & he can sack another groundsman without having to replace him at all .
 

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