THE NEW STADIUM

[TMWLT]

this is the one, that I expect to get the flack from(bring it on)
I realise that I am in a majority of 1, but I do not want, and do not expect to get a new stadium. Everyone is riding the crest of the wave, at the moment, but stop for a moment to consider the reality of the situation. We are a team that is a this moment punching above its natural weight, in terms of crowds, the buzz being all the silverware picked up in the last 3 years, but history shows us, that our fans are very fickle, even if you give them the best facilites in the world.I believe the best option is to develope roots hall, given that there is an awful lot of space around the stadium on 3 sides. which could easily substain the developements needed to bring the stadium upto 20,000ish TO BE CONTINUED

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

Nope, there are no room to redevlop Root-Hall, the Club want to move to Fossett Farm soon as possible. I got an feeling, that getting the go-ahead to built the ground in Jans 2007 will be the highlight of the season!

 

[Pubey]

no, development of roots hall has been looked into a number of times and each report has come back to say it is not feasible

 

[Beefy]

We don't own Roots Hall. Its going to be developed into something else because its a very valuable piece of real estate and staying there simply is not an option.

 

[Einstein]

Quote[/b] (TMWLT @ Nov. 02 2006,14:07)]this is the one, that I expect to get the flack from(bring it on)
I realise that I am in a majority of 1, but I do not want, and do not expect to get a new stadium. Everyone is riding the crest of the wave, at the moment, but stop for a moment to consider the reality of the situation. We are a team that is a this moment punching above its natural weight, in terms of crowds, the buzz being all the silverware picked up in the last 3 years, but history shows us, that our fans are very fickle, even if you give them the best facilites in the world.I believe the best option is to develope roots hall, given that there is an awful lot of space around the stadium on 3 sides. which could easily substain the developements needed to bring the stadium upto 20,000ish   TO BE CONTINUED

Obviously haven't actually read why Ron Martin wants to get a new stadium. It is nothing to do with extra capacity. It is do with the extra revenue we will get on a day to day basis because of the business/retail park area.

 

[TrueBlue]

the whole point of the new stadium is to have the extra facilitys around it do provide the club with much more extra income!

 

[David Essex]

The foundations are not strong enough to hold a new stand/development........Regardless of the teams success a new stadium is required.....Not only for cosmetic reasons but purely because one day roots will fall down !

 

[Napster]

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Quote[/b] (TMWLT @ Nov. 02 2006,14:07)]this is the one, that I expect to get the flack from(bring it on)
I realise that I am in a majority of 1, but I do not want, and do not expect to get a new stadium. Everyone is riding the crest of the wave, at the moment, but stop for a moment to consider the reality of the situation. We are a team that is a this moment punching above its natural weight, in terms of crowds, the buzz being all the silverware picked up in the last 3 years, but history shows us, that our fans are very fickle, even if you give them the best facilites in the world.I believe the best option is to develope roots hall, given that there is an awful lot of space around the stadium on 3 sides. which could easily substain the developements needed to bring the stadium upto 20,000ish   TO BE CONTINUED

Obviously haven't actually read why Ron Martin wants to get a new stadium.  It is nothing to do with extra capacity.  It is do with the extra revenue we will get on a day to day basis because of the business/retail park area.

But he can still get that by developing FF without including a stadium.

We can leave Roots Hall where it is and SEL/SUFC can profit from a leisure park without actually moving the club.

 

[C'mon you Blues]

haven't we had this debate endlessly recently.

PS Roots Hall is a dump

 

[SUFCEssex]

Quote[/b] (TMWLT @ Nov. 02 2006,14:07)]this is the one, that I expect to get the flack from(bring it on)
I realise that I am in a majority of 1, but I do not want, and do not expect to get a new stadium. Everyone is riding the crest of the wave, at the moment, but stop for a moment to consider the reality of the situation. We are a team that is a this moment punching above its natural weight, in terms of crowds, the buzz being all the silverware picked up in the last 3 years, but history shows us, that our fans are very fickle, even if you give them the best facilites in the world.I believe the best option is to develope roots hall, given that there is an awful lot of space around the stadium on 3 sides. which could easily substain the developements needed to bring the stadium upto 20,000ish   TO BE CONTINUED

I actually agree with this. Went to my first game in 78 v Plymouth at the Hall and don't want us to leave. Grown up there and the place has a lot of character, may not be state of the art but who cares.

If we go down or cont to struggle the crowds will go back to the usual 4,000 and RH is more than adequate for this.

 

[Bielzibubz]

*yawn*

 

[londonblue]

Quote[/b] (TMWLT @ Nov. 02 2006,14:07)]I realise that I am in a majority of 1,

Eh? How do you work that out?

 

[gazzacat42]

We are unable to stay at Roots Hall as it is already sold..

(allegedly )

 

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (gazzacat42 @ Nov. 02 2006,16:06)]We are unable to stay at Roots Hall as it is already sold..

      (allegedly )

It was sold ages ago, to Roots Hall Limited. They let us play there.

It wouldn't suprise me to hear RH has been sold to free up some capital to enable Ron to buy out Delancey and start work on FF....

 

[Angell Delight]

Quote[/b] (TMWLT @ Nov. 02 2006,14:07)]this is the one, that I expect to get the flack from(bring it on)
I realise that I am in a majority of 1, but I do not want, and do not expect to get a new stadium. Everyone is riding the crest of the wave, at the moment, but stop for a moment to consider the reality of the situation. We are a team that is a this moment punching above its natural weight, in terms of crowds, the buzz being all the silverware picked up in the last 3 years, but history shows us, that our fans are very fickle, even if you give them the best facilites in the world.I believe the best option is to develope roots hall, given that there is an awful lot of space around the stadium on 3 sides. which could easily substain the developements needed to bring the stadium upto 20,000ish   TO BE CONTINUED

This has been done to death on here, bottom line is there isn't any way in which we will be legally given the go ahead to further develop Roots Hall. Without the new stadium and the extra revenue the retail development will bring the club will be at the very best back in L2 before too long and at worst forced into liquidation at some point in the future.

 

[jamessufc88]

Quote[/b] (TMWLT @ Nov. 02 2006,14:07)]this is the one, that I expect to get the flack from(bring it on)
I realise that I am in a majority of 1, but I do not want, and do not expect to get a new stadium. Everyone is riding the crest of the wave, at the moment, but stop for a moment to consider the reality of the situation. We are a team that is a this moment punching above its natural weight, in terms of crowds, the buzz being all the silverware picked up in the last 3 years, but history shows us, that our fans are very fickle, even if you give them the best facilites in the world.I believe the best option is to develope roots hall, given that there is an awful lot of space around the stadium on 3 sides. which could easily substain the developements needed to bring the stadium upto 20,000ish   TO BE CONTINUED

I would have thought that the way the season has panned out so far this year would have proved that getting a new stadium development is the only way to take this club further forward. Until we get this new stadium, we are punching above our weight as a club, yes, because the finances aren't available to sustain at this level. But I really don't think that there is any such thing as "punching above weight on attendances". Attendences fluctuate in relation to success. If you get success and get a rise in attendences, then yes, maybe those new fans are "hangers-on". But those "hangers-on" will keep coming back and catch the bug, so to speak, if we carry on being successful. Take Wigan. 1996-97, when they were in Div 3 and still at Springfield Park, they averaged 3,889. Around 2000-2001, when they were in Div 2, they were averaging about 7,000. They built the JJB Stadium and by the time they were established and finishing in the top ten in the Championship they were averaging 11,000. They now average 21,000 in the Premiership. At no point, on the way from 3,000 to 21,000, have they punched above their weight. They have been successful and built a new ground, and they're nearly filling it every game now, so they deserve it. There's no reason why we can't attempt to do the same thing, 'cause it's clearly possible. And that lot are much closer the two Manchester clubs than we are to any of the Premiership clubs, and they have a popular and successful Rugby League team to contend with, which tells me that potentially, we could do even better! They were a smaller club than us and built their stadium when they were averaging just 10,000 a season. A new stadium would draw new people in anyway, due to the novelty of a top-notch construction, and all the extra revenue would aid us in competing at this level. As much as I love Roots Hall, I'm looking at the bigger picture. The club is more important than what it plays in, and what it currently plays in will not allow our club to be successful towards the top of the league ladder.

Besides, as people have said, Roots Hall cannot be expanded. There really isn't enough space and due to complaints from residents, we just wouldn't get planning permission. It's not ours to expand anyway! So that makes it even more imperative that we get this new ground.

 

[Shrimp in a Kilt]

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Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Nov. 02 2006,14:17)]

Quote[/b] (TMWLT @ Nov. 02 2006,14:07)]this is the one, that I expect to get the flack from(bring it on)
I realise that I am in a majority of 1, but I do not want, and do not expect to get a new stadium. Everyone is riding the crest of the wave, at the moment, but stop for a moment to consider the reality of the situation. We are a team that is a this moment punching above its natural weight, in terms of crowds, the buzz being all the silverware picked up in the last 3 years, but history shows us, that our fans are very fickle, even if you give them the best facilites in the world.I believe the best option is to develope roots hall, given that there is an awful lot of space around the stadium on 3 sides. which could easily substain the developements needed to bring the stadium upto 20,000ish   TO BE CONTINUED

Obviously haven't actually read why Ron Martin wants to get a new stadium.  It is nothing to do with extra capacity.  It is do with the extra revenue we will get on a day to day basis because of the business/retail park area.

But he can still get that by developing FF without including a stadium.

We can leave Roots Hall where it is and SEL/SUFC can profit from a leisure park without actually moving the club.

I don't think that Ron can swing the FF deal without the cash generated by the sale of the Hall. We no longer own the ground. If we don't find somewhere else to play soon, I think that we stand a very good chance of going bankrupt so though it would be nice for nostalgic reasons to stay I think it is out of the question.

Am I the only one, BTW, who thinks that any chance of staying at Roots Hall ended when Jobson built the flats on the Southbank, thereby hemming the ground in and changing its character for good (and not even making any money on the deal, I understand, the numpty!).

 

[jamessufc88]

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Quote[/b] (TMWLT @ Nov. 02 2006,14:07)]this is the one, that I expect to get the flack from(bring it on)
I realise that I am in a majority of 1, but I do not want, and do not expect to get a new stadium. Everyone is riding the crest of the wave, at the moment, but stop for a moment to consider the reality of the situation. We are a team that is a this moment punching above its natural weight, in terms of crowds, the buzz being all the silverware picked up in the last 3 years, but history shows us, that our fans are very fickle, even if you give them the best facilites in the world.I believe the best option is to develope roots hall, given that there is an awful lot of space around the stadium on 3 sides. which could easily substain the developements needed to bring the stadium upto 20,000ish   TO BE CONTINUED

Obviously haven't actually read why Ron Martin wants to get a new stadium.  It is nothing to do with extra capacity.  It is do with the extra revenue we will get on a day to day basis because of the business/retail park area.

But he can still get that by developing FF without including a stadium.

We can leave Roots Hall where it is and SEL/SUFC can profit from a leisure park without actually moving the club.

I don't think that Ron can swing the FF deal without the cash generated by the sale of the Hall. We no longer own the ground. If we don't find somewhere else to play soon, I think that we stand a very good chance of going bankrupt so though it would be nice for nostalgic reasons to stay I think it is out of the question.

Am I the only one, BTW, who thinks that any chance of staying at Roots Hall ended when Jobson built the flats on the Southbank, thereby hemming the ground in and changing its character for good (and not even making any money on the deal, I understand, the numpty!).

If that twonk hadn't built those stupid flats, we could have made the south stand ginormous when it went all-seating and added on about 5,000 seats to the attendance.

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Nov. 02 2006,17:09)]It was sold ages ago, to Roots Hall Limited. They let us play there.

And who owns RHL?

 

[Groyne Strain]

Quote[/b] (Xàbia Shrimper @ Nov. 02 2006,17:34)]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Nov. 02 2006,17:09)]It was sold ages ago, to Roots Hall Limited. They let us play there.

And who owns RHL?

Once I win that Euromillions thingy tomorrow, I will. Then I'll buy the houses around the Hall and develop the ground from there.

As Ulrika Jonsson says, there's nothing better than a loaded Groyne.