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The Meaning of being a racist

A better example would be a film called "Black men can't Swim" that would cause uproar with the PC brigade (just check & see how many Black people have won Olympic swimming medals).


Iv e always fancied making a film called 'Black men can't bake cake's, without adding hash to them'

god knows what it would be about yet.........
 
absolutely spot on post just about sums up my opinions, **** knows what that means on the rasism meater???


Probably echo's what so many people in this country get so wound up about , if i was to go and live in a country where they worshiped something , had views about or generally did things i didn't agree with , then you know what i'd have to start seriously thinking about if this is the right country i'd want to live in .

It seems to me that we bend over backwards to accomadate folk in this country and it has come back and bit us so fuucking hard on the ar$e its unreal.

Imagine going over to Thailand and try and start kicking up a fuss every time they let off the fire crackers each afternoon and disrespecting their king, they'd string you up but your nuts in no time and rightly so.

We live in a crazy crazy country .
 
Probably echo's what so many people in this country get so wound up about , if i was to go and live in a country where they worshiped something , had views about or generally did things i didn't agree with , then you know what i'd have to start seriously thinking about if this is the right country i'd want to live in .

It seems to me that we bend over backwards to accomadate folk in this country and it has come back and bit us so fuucking hard on the ar$e its unreal.

Imagine going over to Thailand and try and start kicking up a fuss every time they let off the fire crackers each afternoon and disrespecting their king, they'd string you up but your nuts in no time and rightly so.

We live in a crazy crazy country .

racist!! :stunned:
 
Probably echo's what so many people in this country get so wound up about , if i was to go and live in a country where they worshiped something , had views about or generally did things i didn't agree with , then you know what i'd have to start seriously thinking about if this is the right country i'd want to live in .

It seems to me that we bend over backwards to accomadate folk in this country and it has come back and bit us so fuucking hard on the ar$e its unreal.

Imagine going over to Thailand and try and start kicking up a fuss every time they let off the fire crackers each afternoon and disrespecting their king, they'd string you up but your nuts in no time and rightly so.

We live in a crazy crazy country .

Have to agree with you. Our country worries to much about the people that have come to live here from foreign shores and ****s our people in the ****. If these people want to live here then abide by our way we live if not then **** off
 
If I'm organising the defence at a corner during football, I'd happily say mark the one with the long hair or the one with ginger hair etc. but if I shouted mark the black guy I don't think I'd get away with that, is that right...
 
If I'm organising the defence at a corner during football, I'd happily say mark the one with the long hair or the one with ginger hair etc. but if I shouted mark the black guy I don't think I'd get away with that, is that right...

Depends what you were marking him on - his english? his communication skills? Whether he has a Job?
 
No you didn't make that clear. I'll answer the question. I would prefer to live in a country where the indigious population are not forever told to change their ways to accommodate those coming in. I fail to see why I should accept other cultures that do not accept mine and that includes traditions of others that don't embrace mine. I dislike being told that my flag offends, our patron saint shouldn't be celebrated, our past glories should be forgotten and our history retaught to appease those that find it offensive. It doesn't, wouldn't and shouldn't happen in other countries where there is a large influx of immigration and I find it offensive that it happens here.

Now change the ****ing tune J and stop looking for a raise.
I happen to agree with this post but then you have to ask is it the fault of

a) the immigrant
b) the people in charge

If your answer is b then who is at fault for putting these people in charge

a) the immigrant
b) the voters of this country.

The trouble we have is that we are still paying for the issues we faced at the end of the Empire, once people realised that the Empire was not built by these foreign lands and peoples just throwing themselves at us all wanting to be part of the greatest Empire known to man. That it was often hard fought tussles with a lot of blood shed. We as a nation became ashamed, and try too hard to make up for this. Then add to the fact that in all corners of the Empire the indigenous population were taught what a great country Britain is, and that it is like the Garden of Eden, they all aspire to come here.

Ok on the point of being a racist, to me it is being derogatory to someone else based on race. And this can apply to all races in this world, it really is not just a British disease.

Ok i have simplified it but it is getting late and i feel i have made my point.
 
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If these people want to live here then abide by our way we live if not then **** off

Because of course that is exactly what we did in America, Australia, New Zealand, India etc etc ....

I think there is an element of embarrassment within certain sectors of the country about the colonialism in the past. I am sure that residents of current and former commonwealth countries do not have the same immigration restrictions as other countries (and of course we have the EU freedom of labour issue as well.
 
I think there should be more of this, Its with a major sigh in my heart that the pink map of the world is getting less and less, since we have pulled out of most of the countries, they have got worse and worse, after all the more countries we own, the more chance we have got to get our economy up , we can trade with them freeely, and not have to buy apples from france, imagine if we could freely trade with our own commonwealth countries,

buying lamb from new zealand, with no quotas, slaves from the caribbean with no quotas, cheap goods from hong kong the list is endless
 
Another classic TMWLT wind up post.
buying lamb from new zealand, with no quotas, slaves from the caribbean with no quotas, cheap goods from hong kong the list is endless

Surely you should have stated Slaves from Africa, in the Caribbean the slaves were used to work on the plantations, so we could have bananas, sugar and rum.
 
but if I shouted mark the black guy I don't think I'd get away with that, is that right...

I'm sure you would. I have said it many a time playing football, my old housemate and regular drinking partner is Asian friend and I quite often describe people as big black bloke and she doesn't get offended by it.

If i called her a ****, to be honest she would probably be a bit shocked but she would laugh about it because she would know I am only messing around but if someone she didn't know in a bar said it to her I am sure she would be offended because the person in question would be using it as an offensive word. I am sure most of the people who are questioning the difference why the word **** is bad are intellignt enough to work out that people in this day and age tend not to use the word **** as a shortneded version of someone's nationality but use it as an offensive word.

If i called Chadded a ginger **** he would laugh about it, but if a large amount of people in this country had a real hatred of ginger people and ginger **** was used as a word of hatred I wouldn't call Chadded a ginger **** anymore, I would think of something else to abuse him with.
 
Interestingly as part of our history topic, the kids at school were asked to research the 1936 Olympic games and were completely shocked at what went on then and the reasons behind it. There were lots of comments that Hitler was "racist" - a slight understatement maybe - but they have been brought up in such a tolerant and belligerent society that to them, differences in skin colour means nothing, and therefore name calling does not apply as they notice no racial differences. I think it's only as people get older that they become influenced by people with more vocal views and tendencies that they pick up on things like this.
 
In 2004 the Spanish football coach, Luis Aragonés, was slated in the press, fined (although he won his appeal) and accused of being racist when he was caught on camera referring to Thierry Henry as "that black ****" while attempting to fire up José Antonio Reyes at a training session.

Now I never understood why it was regarded as racism. All the papers in the last week have referred to Paul Ince as the "first British black premier league manager". So clearly the use of the adjective "black" is acceptable.

It can't have been the word "****" which made it racist.

So if he had called him "that Arsenal ****" would that have been okay?
 
In 2004 the Spanish football coach, Luis Aragonés, was slated in the press, fined (although he won his appeal) and accused of being racist when he was caught on camera referring to Thierry Henry as "that black ****" while attempting to fire up José Antonio Reyes at a training session.

Now I never understood why it was regarded as racism. All the papers in the last week have referred to Paul Ince as the "first British black premier league manager". So clearly the use of the adjective "black" is acceptable.

It can't have been the word "****" which made it racist.

So if he had called him "that Arsenal ****" would that have been okay?

Paul Ince *is* the first British black premier league manager. Thierry Henry isn't the first black person. Why couldn't he just have called him a ****? There wasn't any need to mention his race, it's not like he was trying to distinguish him from any other ****. so, the assumption has to be that in this instance, black was meant as part of the insult (and so yeah, i suppose "that Arsenal ****" would have been ok, except that Reyes may have been at Arsenal at the time ;) )
 
A better example would be a film called "Black men can't Swim" that would cause uproar with the PC brigade (just check & see how many Black people have won Olympic swimming medals).


We will see if he qualifies for the US team it will be tough for him.
US Olympic swimming trials are taking place now.
100m freestyle final is on Thursday. The 50m final is on Saturday.

I have kept an eye on the US Olympic swimming trials & Cullen Jones came in 3rd in the 100m freestyle & has qualified for the Olympics he had a good time but is unlikely to get a medal.

However the 50m freestylie looks his best bet & should win the qualifying race as he has set US record which is still .31 of a second outside the current world record of 21.28secs held by an Aussie Eamon Sullivan who will be the favourite for the Olympic Gold medal but I'm sure Jones will push him all the way.

Should be an interesting battle at the Olympics.
 
I have kept an eye on the US Olympic swimming trials & Cullen Jones came in 3rd in the 100m freestyle & has qualified for the Olympics he had a good time but is unlikely to get a medal.

However the 50m freestylie looks his best bet & should win the qualifying race as he has set US record which is still .31 of a second outside the current world record of 21.28secs held by an Aussie Eamon Sullivan who will be the favourite for the Olympic Gold medal but I'm sure Jones will push him all the way.

Should be an interesting battle at the Olympics.

so the original statement was correct ?
 

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