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The German export.

And of course the lovely Ms Schiffer:

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I'm sure the slaughtered millions in Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China would disagree.

I heard that dead men tell no tales.:winking:
Of course, Marx had very little to do with Russian style Communism(and much less so by the time Stalin was in power) and can hardly be held responsible for Mao's China.You really need to brush up on 20th Century history, rather than just churning out cheap jibes at the drop of a hat.
 
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I heard that dead men tell no tales.:winking:
Of course, Marx had very little to do with Russian style Communism(and much less so by the time Stalin was in power) and can hardly be held responsible for Mao's China.You really need to brush up on 20th Century history, rather than just churning out cheap jibes at the drop of a hat.

What you're trying to say is that I should brush up on my socialist revisionism, whereby Marx is distanced from the murderous impulses of his Godless devotees. You really are a pompous oaf at times.
 
What you're trying to say is that I should brush up on my socialist revisionism, whereby Marx is distanced from the murderous impulses of his Godless devotees. You really are a pompous oaf at times.

Green to Rusty for calling another poster pompous. Funnier than any Christmas TV, that's for sure.
 
What you're trying to say is that I should brush up on my socialist revisionism, whereby Marx is distanced from the murderous impulses of his Godless devotees. You really are a pompous oaf at times.

Crusty,
FYI,
RC Tucker in "Philosopy and Myth in Karl Marx" made a useful distinction between what he described as "Marxian" thought ie ideas to be found in the works of Marx and Engels which he contrasted with the term "Marxist" thought ie with commentators who came after Marx and Engels,such as Lenin,Stalin etc :soapbox:

It would appear that you are the only person licenced on SZ to insult other listees at will and not be brought to book for it.Who do you know?:unsure:
 
No competition. It's get to be the Guten Tag Hop Clop.

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Crusty,
FYI,
RC Tucker in "Philosopy and Myth in Karl Marx" made a useful distinction between what he described as "Marxian" thought ie ideas to be found in the works of Marx and Engels which he contrasted with the term "Marxist" thought ie with commentators who came after Marx and Engels,such as Lenin,Stalin etc :soapbox:

It would appear that you are the only person licenced on SZ to insult other listees at will and not be brought to book for it.Who do you know?:unsure:

Tucker was an old windbag whose greatest contribution to political thought was popping his clogs this summer. Your best port of call for supporting your argument would be a successful society based on Marxist or Marxian principles. When you find one, let me know.

As for my licence to insult you, I think it's more based on your reputation than mine. As your political (and possibly literal) bedfellows have claimed that I never leave my home, it seems doubtful that I would know anybody, let alone be able to exert authority over them.
 
Crusty,
FYI,
RC Tucker in "Philosopy and Myth in Karl Marx" made a useful distinction between what he described as "Marxian" thought ie ideas to be found in the works of Marx and Engels which he contrasted with the term "Marxist" thought ie with commentators who came after Marx and Engels,such as Lenin,Stalin etc :soapbox:

It would appear that you are the only person licenced on SZ to insult other listees at will and not be brought to book for it.Who do you know?:unsure:

Rusty, please refrain from calling people Marxists.

As it's the season of goodwill, can we all play nicely please.
 
Tucker was an old windbag whose greatest contribution to political thought was popping his clogs this summer. Your best port of call for supporting your argument would be a successful society based on Marxist or Marxian principles. When you find one, let me know.

As for my licence to insult you, I think it's more based on your reputation than mine. As your political (and possibly literal) bedfellows have claimed that I never leave my home, it seems doubtful that I would know anybody, let alone be able to exert authority over them.

As you're no doubt fully aware there's no such society.
Marx,however,did leave us with "The Critique of the Gotha Programme",his trenchant analysis of the nascent German Democratic workers party and his thoughts on the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.
I recommend it to you.
 
You mean that **** full of nasty additives etc etc

Rich - I was a convert to the big lion when 'mfurok' entreated me to its delights at the Oktoberfest back in '81. Sure the stuff we got over here was not in that league, but I have fond memories of it, especially when going into pubs that didn't serve warm additive-free beer. Anyway, we better watch out if we carry on in this vein as we might be seen as pompous old beeros. :smiles:
 
Crusty,
FYI,
RC Tucker in "Philosopy and Myth in Karl Marx" made a useful distinction between what he described as "Marxian" thought ie ideas to be found in the works of Marx and Engels which he contrasted with the term "Marxist" thought ie with commentators who came after Marx and Engels,such as Lenin,Stalin etc :soapbox:

It would appear that you are the only person licenced on SZ to insult other listees at will and not be brought to book for it.Who do you know?:unsure:

Reading between the lines, I see it as an minority convincing the majority that another smaller minority are exploting the majority so that minority should be forced to pacify the majority but still being exploted by the other minority in the name of the majority. My maths equals Communism. Socialism by any other name. I'll stick to capitalism thanks. At least I know who is screwing me.
 

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