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The Big Bang Machine: What Will Happen?

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Depends in what way you mean 'What will happen'?

If you mean will it destroy the earth and everything in the surrounding galaxy then the answer is no. All the stuff of tiny black holes developing into uncontrollable ones is simply sci-fi nonsense.

If you mean literally what will happen then it'll all be over in a fraction of a second, in a puff of matter-antimatter annihilations. Odds are 90-95% that they'll discover the Higgs Boson, thus proving the Big Bang theory is correct, and about 1% that they will also discover sub-atomic "strings" that will provide the link between the models of the quantum world and the gravity effected world.
 
WestRoadShrimper said:
Depends in what way you mean 'What will happen'?

If you mean will it destroy the earth and everything in the surrounding galaxy then the answer is no. All the stuff of tiny black holes developing into uncontrollable ones is simply sci-fi nonsense.

If you mean literally what will happen then it'll all be over in a fraction of a second, in a puff of matter-antimatter annihilations. Odds are 90-95% that they'll discover the Higgs Boson, thus proving the Big Bang theory is correct, and about 1% that they will also discover sub-atomic "strings" that will provide the link between the models of the quantum world and the gravity effected world.
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eh?:dizzy:
 
Bluesmanager said:
And for those of us that proudly wear our Dunce caps on our heads, that means what precisely?
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That the Lizard People were right! Mwah hah hah hah hah *cough*

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*Puts his teacher hat on*

Right, point number 1: The world will not end when they switch the machine on like some people have tried to claim.

We all know that black holes in space are bad places to be near. This experiment will mean that a lot of really really REALLY tiny black holes will appear. They'll be SO small that they will disappear as soon as they are made. So we are safe.

Point number 2(a): It SHOULD prove the Big Bang theory.

We've all heard of Protons and Neutrons from school. They, however, are just a small part of the quantum world (all the bits and pieces that make everything around us). There's things called quarks, bosons, muons, and a few others.

The stumbling block for the Big Bang theory isn't how did it happen, but how did it create mass out of nothing. They think that the Higgs Boson is the thing that started it off - it created mass out of nothing. This is why it's referred to as the 'God' particle. It has never been observed in experiments, which is why this machine at CERN has been built. They reckon it's about 90-95% chance of finding it.

If they don't then it doesn't exist and the Big Bang theory suddenly has more holes in it that a lump of Swiss cheese.

Point number 2(b): There's a VERY small chance it will prove Einstein correct.

There are four forces in nature - Strong, Weak, Electromagnetic, and Gravity. The effects of the first three are felt pretty much just inside the atoms, while the effects of gravity are felt across the universe. They all originated at the same time, from the Big Bang, so must be related to each other. The problem at the moment is that scientists can quite happily get the first three related to each other but can't get gravity to fit any of their equations. This is what Einstein spent the last 30 years of his life working on.

Currently they think that there are these TINY things they've called Strings (much smaller than anything they've seen before, and quite possibly not even existing in the normal 3 dimensions we are familiar with) which would make it all fit. Estimates for this is that there's about a 1% or less chance of these being discovered as a result of this experiment.

*removes teachers hat*

Hope that makes what I said a little clearer for you all - if it doesn't then it just proves what the kids at school have always said about me.....
 
WestRoadShrimper said:
Depends in what way you mean 'What will happen'?

If you mean will it destroy the earth and everything in the surrounding galaxy then the answer is no. All the stuff of tiny black holes developing into uncontrollable ones is simply sci-fi nonsense.

If you mean literally what will happen then it'll all be over in a fraction of a second, in a puff of matter-antimatter annihilations. Odds are 90-95% that they'll discover the Higgs Boson, thus proving the Big Bang theory is correct, and about 1% that they will also discover sub-atomic "strings" that will provide the link between the models of the quantum world and the gravity effected world.
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I thought they were looking more towards there not really being a classical physics world (as it was an illusion ) and the qunatum world was the "true" world ?

He laugh if teh dont find the Higgs Boson and have to re-write everything (agian )
 
WestRoadShrimper said:
*Puts his teacher hat on*

Right, point number 1: The world will not end when they switch the machine on like some people have tried to claim.

We all know that black holes in space are bad places to be near. This experiment will mean that a lot of really really REALLY tiny black holes will appear. They'll be SO small that they will disappear as soon as they are made. So we are safe.

Point number 2(a): It SHOULD prove the Big Bang theory.

We've all heard of Protons and Neutrons from school. They, however, are just a small part of the quantum world (all the bits and pieces that make everything around us). There's things called quarks, bosons, muons, and a few others.

The stumbling block for the Big Bang theory isn't how did it happen, but how did it create mass out of nothing. They think that the Higgs Boson is the thing that started it off - it created mass out of nothing. This is why it's referred to as the 'God' particle. It has never been observed in experiments, which is why this machine at CERN has been built. They reckon it's about 90-95% chance of finding it.

If they don't then it doesn't exist and the Big Bang theory suddenly has more holes in it that a lump of Swiss cheese.

Point number 2(b): There's a VERY small chance it will prove Einstein correct.

There are four forces in nature - Strong, Weak, Electromagnetic, and Gravity. The effects of the first three are felt pretty much just inside the atoms, while the effects of gravity are felt across the universe. They all originated at the same time, from the Big Bang, so must be related to each other. The problem at the moment is that scientists can quite happily get the first three related to each other but can't get gravity to fit any of their equations. This is what Einstein spent the last 30 years of his life working on.

Currently they think that there are these TINY things they've called Strings (much smaller than anything they've seen before, and quite possibly not even existing in the normal 3 dimensions we are familiar with) which would make it all fit. Estimates for this is that there's about a 1% or less chance of these being discovered as a result of this experiment.

*removes teachers hat*

Hope that makes what I said a little clearer for you all - if it doesn't then it just proves what the kids at school have always said about me.....
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Was string theory developed from Bell's Theriom ?
 
osymandus said:
I thought they were looking more towards there not really being a classical physics world (as it was an illusion ) and the qunatum world was the "true" world ?
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Kind of, but the stumbling block is still that gravity is currently incongruous with the other three forces.

osymandus said:
Was string theory developed from Bell's Theriom ?
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Had never heard of Bell's Theorem, but having just looked at it I don't think so. String Theory is more about a kind of extra level below the quarks, and quite possibly involving many more dimensions.

I think!
 
WestRoadShrimper said:
True, but would you rather she hadn't discovered them?
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Well actually it wasn't Maria and Pierre it was Nicholia Tesla , he'd discovered their properties about 5 years prior to them and give them papers to assit in their radioativty research .

Could be possible there is no "gravity" per say (like there is no force of "time" (tis true !!)), maybe its mearly a creation of the other 3 forces combined ?

Very similar to the Hertemic concept of Sulpha , Salt and mercury and (the 3 tatvas in Hindu philosphy ) combining to produce the "material" world as we percieve it .

But they quantum machanics seesm similar to teh Hindu idea of Maya = Illisuionary world created by your perception , and ultimate relaity (Bhramic force) that is the underlying primal base of the universe .
 
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