Ten years of do ron ron

[SARF]

If the success of the last ten years is nothing to do with Ron, then equally the relegation and current predicament are nothing to do with him either. ?

 

[GBJ]

If the success of the last ten years is nothing to do with Ron, then equally the relegation and current predicament are nothing to do with him either. ?

Ok, answer this then, did Ron score the goals? Did Ron pick the team? Did Ron scout the players i.e. Freddy, Bailey? Was Ron part of the first team set-up? Did Ron train the players? All Ron did was appoint Tilly (which is the best thing he's done) and open his chequebook, therefore he had not a lot to do with our success. Please state otherwise.

The current predicament we're in, is infact the fault of the entire board. They are the people who run this club, therefore if they run it sh*t (as it has been for the past 4-5 years) then they are all accountable. We are skint etc etc, this cannot be blamed on global recession blah blah, it's because we were spending ridiculous amounts of money on wages and plans for a make-believe stadium.

Therefore, Ron - nothing to do with our success,

The Board - their fault we're in this current predicament

 

[weststander]

Ok, answer this then, did Ron score the goals? Did Ron pick the team? Did Ron scout the players i.e. Freddy, Bailey? Was Ron part of the first team set-up? Did Ron train the players? All Ron did was appoint Tilly (which is the best thing he's done) and open his chequebook, therefore he had not a lot to do with our success. Please state otherwise.

No he didnt score that goals but without his appointment of Tilly and Brush, lucky or not, and without paying the transfer fees and wages of the players that the most successful management team we have ever had, wanted him to then we wouldnt have had the success. And without him there probably wouldnt be a Southend United.

The current predicament we're in, is infact the fault of the entire board. They are the people who run this club, therefore if they run it sh*t (as it has been for the past 4-5 years) then they are all accountable. We are skint etc etc, this cannot be blamed on global recession blah blah, it's because we were spending ridiculous amounts of money on wages and plans for a make-believe stadium.

I agree that he has mismanaged the clubs finances BUT without showing the ambition he did and taking a risk then we wouldnt have had the success we did and you would be slaughtering him for not being ambitious, the guy cant win !

Therefore, Ron - nothing to do with our success,



The Board - their fault we're in this current predicament

Therefore I truly believe that Ron played a big part in our success and also a big part in what seems our downfall !

 

[GBJ]

No he didnt score that goals but without his appointment of Tilly and Brush, lucky or not, and without paying the transfer fees and wages of the players that the most successful management team we have ever had, wanted him to then we wouldnt have had the success. And without him there probably wouldnt be a Southend United.

As i've said, i thought he wanted to appoint Adkins, but was swayed by the fans calling for Tilson to be hired.

Fair enough he's put money in for transfers etc, but lets be honest, its no more than what 95% of chairmen do in the football league. That's his job. He hasn't done it out of the kindness of his own heart.

I agree that he has mismanaged the clubs finances BUT without showing the ambition he did and taking a risk then we wouldnt have had the success we did and you would be slaughtering him for not being ambitious, the guy cant win !

But it's that risk that now has us in a very perilous position. If the worse case scenario happened, there would only be one man to blame. Lets just hope that day never comes, even though i fear we are in for some more shocks down the line

...............................

 

[lombard]

RM only travels around the country to oversee his business interests,SUFC.He acquired SUFC solely to make a bumper profit out of the development at Roots Hall and Fossetts.I would be very surprised if RM stayed with SUFC,if the devolpments were concluded.We would still be in a precarious position if the new stadium succeeds.Being renters and at the mercy of property companies whoever they may be !!!

 

[weststander]

Ok, but i want you to think about this, try not using hindsight though.
Would you have rather not had Ron and potentially no Tilly and Brush. Perhaps a steady Eddie chairman that did not spend more than we got and we broke even every season ? Playing in front of 3,000 home crowds each game.
Due to the lack of investment no visits to the Millenium Stadium, no promotions or League One Championships, no game against Man Utd ? And would you rather we were lower mid table in League Two with little chance of promotion and flirting with relegation to the conference every third or fourth season ?

 

[lombard]

Try not using hindsight yourself !! Do you think RM and his merry men achieved something another person(chairman) could not ? Tilly and Brush are pushing water uphill,and hitting above their weight,no thanks from the present owners.As mentioned earlier,we are in a most precarious position at this moment of time.I feel uneasy about the situation.

 

[weststander]

Try not using hindsight yourself !! Do you think RM and his merry men achieved something another person(chairman) could not ? Tilly and Brush are pushing water uphill,and hitting above their weight,no thanks from the present owners.As mentioned earlier,we are in a most precarious position at this moment of time.I feel uneasy about the situation.

No I agree it is very possible that another chairman MIGHT have achieved all that RM has, but they also MIGHT NOT, especially without taking risks.

RM has taken a big risk with the future of our club itself, BUT the game is not over yet, we still have 14 games left, thats 42 points and we need 18. RM is still apparently moving forward with FF but what i do believe is that he has invested too much money in the club not to pursue it to the end and when he does i have no problem with him making money out of it. We stand more chance of survival at FF than at Roots Hall with or without RM.

 

[grassroots]

No I agree it is very possible that another chairman MIGHT have achieved all that RM has, but they also MIGHT NOT, especially without taking risks.

RM has taken a big risk with the future of our club itself, BUT the game is not over yet, we still have 14 games left, thats 42 points and we need 18. RM is still apparently moving forward with FF but what i do believe is that he has invested too much money in the club not to pursue it to the end and when he does i have no problem with him making money out of it. We stand more chance of survival at FF than at Roots Hall with or without RM.

I think it's more likely that RM has invested too much time and effort and is so close to the finishing line.. etc. The money side is debateable as I very much doubt he has put any of 'his own' money into the Club.