SUFC: The Future SUFC up for sale

[fredheim_holm]

Not going to bite on all comments - but I think that what I said is common sense.

Take us out of it and let’s say Kimura made an offer back then. Again, it would likely have been a better offer for Ron when the gun isn’t pointing at his head.

Urgency to sell doesn’t help the seller.

Is it sour grapes? Maybe a little, of course I wanted to achieve one of my boyhood dreams - *but* it’s probably more frustration that the pain inflicted on so many: fans, staff, etc could have been avoided had Ron Martin had common courtesy to respond, sign an NDA and at least look at our proof of funds and offer.

The fact he didn’t respond, whilst simultaneously leaving all and sundry unpaid, is where my emotions in this matter are focused.

Yeah I don't blame you for the comment about your offer, it's understandable to be frustrated when you're confident of a good proposal and not given the time of day to present it, then months later it's all change and suddenly the seller is open to bids. My comment was primarily that your thread was 95% insightful, only 5% could be seen as sour grapes.

At the time we were all desperate for Ron to sell but most fans had no real idea if there were plausible offers on the table, yours seemed potentially so but hard to judge without knowing the details.

I think most fans are thankful you even tried, and who knows it may have even been part of the reason Ron eventually decided it was time to sell.

 

[Carl]

Yeah I don't blame you for the comment about your offer, it's understandable to be frustrated when you're confident of a good proposal and not given the time of day to present it, then months later it's all change and suddenly the seller is open to bids. My comment was primarily that your thread was 95% insightful, only 5% could be seen as sour grapes.

At the time we were all desperate for Ron to sell but most fans had no real idea if there were plausible offers on the table, yours seemed potentially so but hard to judge without knowing the details.

I think most fans are thankful you even tried, and who knows it may have even been part of the reason Ron eventually decided it was time to sell.

Doubt it, he had offers before and after us (including one that seems madness not to have responded to, again if only out of courtesy).

I suspect Ron didn’t decide, but who knows

 

[Smiffy]

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[MisterStubbs]

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What we do we reckon, deal done within the week?

 

[Smiffy]

What we do we reckon, deal done within the week?

"Progress has certainly been made but the deal is not expected to be completed imminently."

In my opinion, 10-14 days ball park for completion. Depending on the amount of holes and bodies DD throws up.

All those involved will be well aware of the importance of time. But, with millions at stake, no corners will rightly be cut when it comes to DD.

 

[Avl1983]

Nope, shared the reasons back then, we couldn’t make it work as club only on the funding structure we’d negotiated at the time.

Fair enough, thanks for the answer

 

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[Barling Magna]

Excellent.

 

[Shrimper]

What we do we reckon, deal done within the week?

"Not expected imminently"

Few weeks then. Dallas will be off to Chesterfield as I can't see him hanging around for long

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

What we do we reckon, deal done within the week?

Probably not. As I said Friday

Week after probably a more likely realistic target date with things still likely to slip into final week of June as there are invariably last minute twists in such things. If things go into July it will start to get nervy but it’s still doable. If things are still close 14th July deadlines will be extended but I hope it doesn’t come to that.

 

[Moley]

Informative, yes


Sour grapes, sounds that way.

We do not know how long Kumira have been working away on this.

They were apparently at a game before the season ended. It may well be that Ron was approached well before he officially announced that he would sell the club.

I would hazard a guess that a large majority of "DD" has already been done and an official announcement will be coming this week. Not in the know, but just seems to make sense to me.

Sour grapes indeed.

 

[ms brush]

In all honesty, if there are buried skeletons, Ron would be wanting this done asap so there is less time for them to emerge. Any bones emerging after things are finalised become Kimura's problem, and by extension remain ours. So a couple of weeks of quality digging at this stage is not only necessary, but probably should be welcomed!

 

[Callum]

Let’s all stay positive

 

[Carl]

In all honesty, if there are buried skeletons, Ron would be wanting this done asap so there is less time for them to emerge. Any bones emerging after things are finalised become Kimura's problem, and by extension remain ours. So a couple of weeks of quality digging at this stage is not only necessary, but probably should be welcomed!

This.

If he has any common sense, he’d send every single bit of paperwork for 25 years, give a week deadline, and a clause in the contract saying he’s not liable if he provided the info.

 

[Awooga]

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Really? Has the club confirmed?

 

[Tommy2holes]

Certain people ITK where hopefully it could have posisbly been completed last week or early this week.

Why the disparity? Either they weren't as in the know as they thought, we're misinformed, or they were right and completion is far closer than others suggest.

The club needs to get cracking with budgets, signings, releasing of players and kits etc.

There is also the small matter of season card sales and match day pricing. At present we have sold our fewest season cards for several years.

In order to be able to best support the management in their attempts to sign players, revenue needs to be maximised.

The longer this drags on, the more damage it does to the coming seasons preparations.

I, like many, will not renew my season card until the club if officially out of Rons hands.

 

[Carl]

Certain people ITK where hopefully it could have posisbly been completed last week or early this week.

Why the disparity? Either they weren't as in the know as they thought, we're misinformed, or they were right and completion is far closer than others suggest.

The club needs to get cracking with budgets, signings, releasing of players and kits etc.

There is also the small matter of season card sales and match day pricing. At present we have sold our fewest season cards for several years.

In order to be able to best support the management in their attempts to sign players, revenue needs to be maximised.

The longer this drags on, the more damage it does to the coming seasons preparations.

Kits can be done at any time particularly as Macron offer commission only for skint clubs, budgets will almost certainly have been done but signings and football matters have to wait for the NL nod, not just completion.

 

[londonblue]

They usually are carbon copy dumb instruments - I doubt I’ve seen one that hasn’t just been ripped off from somewhere else - but most parties to NDA’s know the game and yes, when both sides agree, joint announcements can be made.

And that's the point. Ron (or the club) can't just decide to make a statement because they're under an NDA.

 

[Tommy2holes]

Kits can be done at any time particularly as Macron offer commission only for skint clubs, budgets will almost certainly have been done but signings and football matters have to wait for the NL nod, not just completion.

My point being this.

If completion take say another 2 or 3 weeks. That's 2 or 3 weeks under embargo. That's players missed, potentially having to hold on to players that could be moved on.

Thats 2 or 3 weeks of season card money that will undoubtedly flood in when new ownership is in place.

It's very detrimental to our chances of success.

 

[Carl]

My point being this.

If completion take say another 2 or 3 weeks. That's 2 or 3 weeks under embargo. That's players missed, potentially having to hold on to players that could be moved on.

Thats 2 or 3 weeks of season card money that will undoubtedly flood in when new ownership is in place.

It's very detrimental to our chances of success.

Yup, that’s the consequences of being between a rock and a hard place unfortunately.