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Typical of these Mediterranean sorts![b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ July 06 2004,12:07)]Touchy.[b said:Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ July 06 2004,12:02)]You blaming me?
Isn't it your siesta time OS?
Typical of these Mediterranean sorts![b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ July 06 2004,12:07)]Touchy.[b said:Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ July 06 2004,12:02)]You blaming me?
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Too busy practising my long range ****ing technique to sleep.[b said:Quote[/b] (Prophet of Doom! @ July 06 2004,13:10)]Typical of these Mediterranean sorts![b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ July 06 2004,12:07)]Touchy.[b said:Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ July 06 2004,12:02)]You blaming me?
Isn't it your siesta time OS?
Tip: Don't do it into the breeze![b said:Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ July 06 2004,12:28)]Too busy practising my long range ****ing technique to sleep.[b said:Quote[/b] (Prophet of Doom! @ July 06 2004,13:10)]Typical of these Mediterranean sorts![b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ July 06 2004,12:07)]Touchy.[b said:Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ July 06 2004,12:02)]You blaming me?
Isn't it your siesta time OS?
Which is exactly why if Leon Cort ever returns to Roots Hall, he'll get a loud cheer, whereas Mr Constantine's reception won't be so warm.[b said:Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ July 05 2004,23:49)]1) Leon Cort : the Club actually matched the wage offer of Hull City but the player wanted to try himself at a higher level. I think most of us always knew this ...
2) Leon Constantine : the striker wanted to leave at Christmas and was trying to negotiate a pre-contract agreement will Hull City but the Tigers didn't want him. Tilson confirmed that he only wanted to see committed players at Roots Hall - "I not worried [Constantine's] gone." Neither am I ...
Well, Connie better hope I haven't got the knack of it by then.[b said:Quote[/b] (chadded @ July 06 2004,13:36)]Which is exactly why if Leon Cort ever returns to Roots Hall, he'll get a loud cheer, whereas Mr Constantine's reception won't be so warm.[b said:Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ July 05 2004,23:49)]1) Leon Cort : the Club actually matched the wage offer of Hull City but the player wanted to try himself at a higher level. I think most of us always knew this ...
2) Leon Constantine : the striker wanted to leave at Christmas and was trying to negotiate a pre-contract agreement will Hull City but the Tigers didn't want him. Tilson confirmed that he only wanted to see committed players at Roots Hall - "I not worried [Constantine's] gone." Neither am I ...
There you go, back on topic.
On that last part, I cannot see the point in 16000 seats, if we can only attract 4-5000 gates [6000 when we were in the old 1st Division]. With only the outside chance of a Premiership club coming to visit [IF and when we get a cup run], I think 10000 seats is ample. The atmosphere will be better and IF we reserve land for expanding the ground to 20000+ seats in the future, when we climb the league ladder as we did in the 90's, it will be better suited to our position.
Totally disagree. You only have to look at a team like reading. When they were playing at elm park (in the 1st division) they got gates of around 4-6000. They get a brand new stadium and regularly get 14,000+. Admitedly this is part due to investment on the pitch , but mostly due to fantastic facililtys of the pitch. The point is nobody really wanted to watch them play in a rickety old stadium but they love the new facilities and the numbers have grown which has helped the football club grow. This season we have had some very big gates in the cup and in the league. These gates may have been even higher had we had a better equiped stadium. 16,000 is spot on in my eyes and should we do well in it i could see us averaging between 8-12000. I know plenty of people who dont like coming to roots hall becuase of the facilities. Improve them and the playing side and crowds will swell.
[b said:Quote[/b] (tommytwoholes @ July 06 2004,12:53)]I am pleased that you feel that way... but I will take some convincing that future support will grow 2-3 fold even after the first season in the new stadium. Prove me wrong guys & I will hold my hands up!On that last part, I cannot see the point in 16000 seats, if we can only attract 4-5000 gates [6000 when we were in the old 1st Division]. With only the outside chance of a Premiership club coming to visit [IF and when we get a cup run], I think 10000 seats is ample. The atmosphere will be better and IF we reserve land for expanding the ground to 20000+ seats in the future, when we climb the league ladder as we did in the 90's, it will be better suited to our position.
Totally disagree. You only have to look at a team like reading. When they were playing at elm park (in the 1st division) they got gates of around 4-6000. They get a brand new stadium and regularly get 14,000+. Admitedly this is part due to investment on the pitch , but mostly due to fantastic facililtys of the pitch. The point is nobody really wanted to watch them play in a rickety old stadium but they love the new facilities and the numbers have grown which has helped the football club grow. This season we have had some very big gates in the cup and in the league. These gates may have been even higher had we had a better equiped stadium. 16,000 is spot on in my eyes and should we do well in it i could see us averaging between 8-12000. I know plenty of people who dont like coming to roots hall becuase of the facilities. Improve them and the playing side and crowds will swell.
I hate being negative, so on a positive note, I hope that we get a new stadium, with an appropriate number of seats, facilities and events to really bring in the crowds, a good home and away support [LDV Final Cardiff Style] and successive promotions as champions as we've only done it once [1980/1].
How's that for a turnaround!
[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ July 06 2004,13:09)]I have said this many a time crowds at the Hall are on the up with continued investment in the playing staff and a nice new stadium along with the demise of West Ham, Why can't we be getting good crowds ?I am pleased that you feel that way... but I will take some convincing that future support will grow 2-3 fold even after the first season in the new stadium. Prove me wrong guys & I will hold my hands up![b said:Quote[/b] ]On that last part, I cannot see the point in 16000 seats, if we can only attract 4-5000 gates [6000 when we were in the old 1st Division]. With only the outside chance of a Premiership club coming to visit [IF and when we get a cup run], I think 10000 seats is ample. The atmosphere will be better and IF we reserve land for expanding the ground to 20000+ seats in the future, when we climb the league ladder as we did in the 90's, it will be better suited to our position.
Totally disagree. You only have to look at a team like reading. When they were playing at elm park (in the 1st division) they got gates of around 4-6000. They get a brand new stadium and regularly get 14,000+. Admitedly this is part due to investment on the pitch , but mostly due to fantastic facililtys of the pitch. The point is nobody really wanted to watch them play in a rickety old stadium but they love the new facilities and the numbers have grown which has helped the football club grow. This season we have had some very big gates in the cup and in the league. These gates may have been even higher had we had a better equiped stadium. 16,000 is spot on in my eyes and should we do well in it i could see us averaging between 8-12000. I know plenty of people who dont like coming to roots hall becuase of the facilities. Improve them and the playing side and crowds will swell.
I hate being negative, so on a positive note, I hope that we get a new stadium, with an appropriate number of seats, facilities and events to really bring in the crowds, a good home and away support [LDV Final Cardiff Style] and successive promotions as champions as we've only done it once [1980/1].
How's that for a turnaround!
Is it so unrealistic to get 8,000 in D3 ? Then you have big games to consider then promotion.
Im not saying we will fill it alot however the higher we go the better the chance. 16,000 is ambitious yet realistic. Also don't quote me but isn't it cheaper to build those few extra thousand seats than add them on later then you endure extra costs.
We all know we didn't attract the crowds during our Div 1 hey day but i strongly believe Southend is getting more and more interest.
[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ July 06 2004,13:09)]Just have a look at Reading and Wigan these clubs always had lower crowds than the Mighty Southend did ten years ago, but look what's happen to there crowds since they built there new Stadiums doubled at leastI am pleased that you feel that way... but I will take some convincing that future support will grow 2-3 fold even after the first season in the new stadium. Prove me wrong guys & I will hold my hands up![b said:Quote[/b] ]On that last part, I cannot see the point in 16000 seats, if we can only attract 4-5000 gates [6000 when we were in the old 1st Division]. With only the outside chance of a Premiership club coming to visit [IF and when we get a cup run], I think 10000 seats is ample. The atmosphere will be better and IF we reserve land for expanding the ground to 20000+ seats in the future, when we climb the league ladder as we did in the 90's, it will be better suited to our position.
Totally disagree. You only have to look at a team like reading. When they were playing at elm park (in the 1st division) they got gates of around 4-6000. They get a brand new stadium and regularly get 14,000+. Admitedly this is part due to investment on the pitch , but mostly due to fantastic facililtys of the pitch. The point is nobody really wanted to watch them play in a rickety old stadium but they love the new facilities and the numbers have grown which has helped the football club grow. This season we have had some very big gates in the cup and in the league. These gates may have been even higher had we had a better equiped stadium. 16,000 is spot on in my eyes and should we do well in it i could see us averaging between 8-12000. I know plenty of people who dont like coming to roots hall becuase of the facilities. Improve them and the playing side and crowds will swell.
I hate being negative, so on a positive note, I hope that we get a new stadium, with an appropriate number of seats, facilities and events to really bring in the crowds, a good home and away support [LDV Final Cardiff Style] and successive promotions as champions as we've only done it once [1980/1].
How's that for a turnaround!
I love Roots Hall and will always, but its Old, the faculties are very poor ( apart from the bars), and the Atmosphere is embarrassing. due to the shape of the stands and the Lego stand etc
we need a 20,000 plus Stadium as Southend United is a growing club !!
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You mean he looks dead?[b said:Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ July 06 2004,12:45)]I think Ron Martin looks like Adam Faith.
Why don't the club do a scheme a la nightmare on elmo street where all the virgins get made to do jumping jacks. We could make money by selling the tapes to You've been Framed LOADSA MONEY! All of you You've been Framed is the future! and if that fat bird cut down on the vimto and pies then maybe she could give us the rest.[b said:Quote[/b] (stid @ July 06 2004,14:53)]So, to summarise, it's good luck to Leon Cort and good riddance to Leon Constantine. There's going to be a new B&Q and everyone visiting it is going to **** in the Karers' front gardens. We might have a new stadium one day but it might be too big or not big enough. Or just right.
No real revelations there to be honest but it is worth pointing out that it's far more cost-effective in terms of building costs to make the stadium big enough to start with, rather than having to pay out to expand it later. And the comment that plastic seats don't take a lot of maintaining is basically true.
I think that the club should show real ambition and go for at least 16,000 seats. After all, we're bound to get a decent home cup-tie one day and that's an opportunity to attract extra fans on a longer-term basis, providing they can get tickets for the big game itself.
[b said:Quote[/b] (tommytwoholes @ July 06 2004,12:53)]well said ThomasOn that last part, I cannot see the point in 16000 seats, if we can only attract 4-5000 gates [6000 when we were in the old 1st Division]. With only the outside chance of a Premiership club coming to visit [IF and when we get a cup run], I think 10000 seats is ample. The atmosphere will be better and IF we reserve land for expanding the ground to 20000+ seats in the future, when we climb the league ladder as we did in the 90's, it will be better suited to our position.
Totally disagree. You only have to look at a team like reading. When they were playing at elm park (in the 1st division) they got gates of around 4-6000. They get a brand new stadium and regularly get 14,000+. Admitedly this is part due to investment on the pitch , but mostly due to fantastic facililtys of the pitch. The point is nobody really wanted to watch them play in a rickety old stadium but they love the new facilities and the numbers have grown which has helped the football club grow. This season we have had some very big gates in the cup and in the league. These gates may have been even higher had we had a better equiped stadium. 16,000 is spot on in my eyes and should we do well in it i could see us averaging between 8-12000. I know plenty of people who dont like coming to roots hall becuase of the facilities. Improve them and the playing side and crowds will swell.