Echo News Southend United midfielder Timothee Dieng handed two match ban for 'misleading referee'

[Chris Powell's mate]

Then how did he give the penalty?

He gave the penalty for a push in the face, which he thought he saw in that split second he glanced to his right.
He was mistaken; and boy! Was Dieng ever mistaken.

 

[Holy Joe]

What I don't understand is surely the ref saw exactly what happened, in order to award the penalty, so he must of known where the contract on Dieng happened!

Agree, ref had a very clear view of it as well, no players in the way. Diengs reaction shouldn't have influenced the ref.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Agree, ref had a very clear view of it as well, no players in the way. Diengs reaction shouldn't have influenced the ref.

A good point.
Do we know that the pen wouldn't have been awarded anyway, and that the 'violent conduct' was the reason for the red card?
The ref's half second take on things was wrong, but looking at the replay again, he's actually looking to the corner where the ball has gone, and catches the push out the corner of his eye.

 

[Holy Joe]

A good point.
Do we know that the pen wouldn't have been awarded anyway, and that the 'violent conduct' was the reason for the red card?
The ref's half second take on things was wrong, but looking at the replay again, he's actually looking to the corner where the ball has gone, and catches the push out the corner of his eye.

I don't think the penalty decision is in question. The red card was overturned. Dieng was done for cheating which resulted in a red card. I guess we'd need to see the Ref's match report - are these publically available? If not the FA really should making these available online - great way to increase transparency

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Millisecond for what? The push didn't take a millisecond and there is no reason for the ref to make an instant decision. He can easily talk to his linesman.

What was he protecting him from? He didn't send him off because he thought he was going to do it again, he sent him off because he thought (wrongly) that Dieng got hit in the face.

My problem isn't with Dieng being punished for faking a face injury, but the fact this happens so often in every league. A player gets a slight touch in the face, neck, or shoulder region and they fall to the floor screaming. The only difference is that this player got sent off because of it.

Remember the 2002 World Cup? Rivaldo gets a ball kicked at his thigh and goes down holding his face, no ban or fine. I don't remember (maybe it has happened, maybe not) when a player has been banned for faking a hit to the face. So why now?

Where is your evidence that the ref sent off the Scunny player because he thought he had hit Dieng in the face?

The Scunny used two hands to push Dieng in the chest causing Dieng to fall to the floor. Raising your hands to an opponent is violent conduct and a red card offence in its own right

 

[ItsMichaelBlack]

Misleading ? This doesn’t happen in any other leagues. Never seen this in the Prem.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

It's utterly bizarre that this one act has been singled out.

Why not pick on one of the many dives when there wasn't even contact?

 

[Chapperz]

Where is your evidence that the ref sent off the Scunny player because he thought he had hit Dieng in the face?

The Scunny used two hands to push Dieng in the chest causing Dieng to fall to the floor. Raising your hands to an opponent is violent conduct and a red card offence in its own right

I don't, but I assumed that because the red card was overturned it had something to do with Dieng holding his face.

Last year, Scunthorpe also had a player sent off for pushing someone in the chest. Was the red card also overturned? Sure was. Was the player who got pushed later banned? Nope.

Scunthorpe win appeal to rescind van Veen's red card against Cobblers

Scunthorpe United have successfully appealed the red card handed out to Kevin van Veen during Tuesday's defeat to the Cobblers.

www.northamptonchron.co.uk

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Misleading ? This doesn’t happen in any other leagues. Never seen this in the Prem.

Check the law on deception leading to a penalty or goal. It's in black and white.

 

[ItsMichaelBlack]

Check the law on deception leading to a penalty or goal. It's in black and white.

When has there been other instances where this has happened though ?

 

[jackj13]

Check the law on deception leading to a penalty or goal. It's in black and white.

Different law for Mo Salah then I’m guessing?

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I don't, but I assumed that because the red card was overturned it had something to do with Dieng holding his face.

Last year, Scunthorpe also had a player sent off for pushing someone in the chest. Was the red card also overturned? Sure was. Was the player who got pushed later banned? Nope.

Scunthorpe win appeal to rescind van Veen's red card against Cobblers

Scunthorpe United have successfully appealed the red card handed out to Kevin van Veen during Tuesday's defeat to the Cobblers.

www.northamptonchron.co.uk

Odd that 2 reds cards for shoving a player over with 2 hands on a chest get rescinded yet Paolo Di Canio goes a 7 game ban for doing the same to a referee.

Double standards

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Different law for Mo Salah then I’m guessing?

Different circumstances for sure.
Mo the Diver got it in the neck for going down too easily and winning penalties, but note the words: 'too easily'
It suggests there was contact with an opponent and thus a grey area.
Had he been pushed in the chest and gone down holding his face? Now, that would have been a comparison.

 

[Jay_SUFC]

Different circumstances for sure.
Mo the Diver got it in the neck for going down too easily and winning penalties, but note the words: 'too easily'
It suggests there was contact with an opponent and thus a grey area.
Had he been pushed in the chest and gone down holding his face? Now, that would have been a comparison.

I've seen plenty of Premiership players go down holding their heads, when replays clearly show no contact with the head at all. However because refs can use VAR it's ignored.

However, taking these examples into account, shouldn't said player then be sent off (or at least cautioned) for trying to con the referee?

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

I've seen plenty of Premiership players go down holding their heads, when replays clearly show no contact with the head at all. However because refs can use VAR it's ignored.

However, taking these examples into account, shouldn't said player then be sent off (or at least cautioned) for trying to con the referee?

Plenty?
Must have missed that. Any recent specific examples one can see online?