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Southend United and the mathematics of the remainder of season 2012/13
- Thread starter southend_aussies
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southend_aussies
I come from a land down under
The funny thing is, I don't think it's over. Southend has a weird way of staying alive in things and then not doing it in the last game. It wouldn't surprise me if we beat Fleetwood on Monday then win one or two more and go on a run.
MK Shrimper
Striker
Nice of you to be so forthright.
tottenham541
President
plymouth 1 exeter 0 over 13,000 in attendance:omg:
southend_aussies
I come from a land down under
And Gillingham are leading against Fleetwood.... :smile:
Earls Hall Blue
Coach
So Exeter have lost but the reality of the table right now with 6 to play is:-
12 points off Northampton
10-13 points off Burton
6-9 points off Cheltenham
8-11 points off Rotherham
7-10 points off Exeter
With the games we each have left we are chasing that down along with Bradford, Fleetwood & Chesterfield. The only team I can see perhaps slipping out of the play-off's is Cheltenham, possibly Exeter, but realistically its really where those five end up in positions 3-7. I would be very surprised if us or any of the other three I've mentioned sneak into the play-off's.
McNasty
Member
All we can do is try and win all our remaining games and see which, if any, of the opposition teams fail.
southend_aussies
I come from a land down under
I'll put it up later. Just waiting on the final few matches but Exeter and Cheltenham are the one's we need to rely on to struggle. They battle against each other, they have tough matches remaining and are the likely one's to falter. However all this is pointless if we don't win at least 4 matches and beat Fleetwood on Monday.
southend_aussies
I come from a land down under
Southend United – NOW 9[SUP]th[/SUP] with 56 points with 6 games remaining.
Here are the scenario's if Southend United get 18 points:
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (74 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 5 points to beat us
Northampton need to get 7
Burton would need to get (9, 7, 6)
Cheltenham would need to get 10
Exeter would need 12
Rotherham would need 11
Fleetwood would need to get (14, 12, 11)
FOR PLAYOFFS 6 OR FEWER TEAMS NEED TO BEAT US:
If Southend get 16 points (5 wins 1 draw)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (72 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 3 points to beat us
Burton would need to get (7, 5, 4)
Northampton would need to get 5
Cheltenham would need to get 8
Exeter would need 10
Rotherham would need 9
Fleetwood would need to get (12, 10, 9)
We'd also need Bradford to not get 18 or Chesterfield to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 6 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 15 points (5 wins and 1 loss)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (71 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 2 points to beat us
Burton would need to get (6, 4, 3)
Northampton would need 4
Cheltenham would need to get 7
Exeter would need 9
Rotherham would need 8
Fleetwood would need (11, 9, 8)
We'd also need Bradford to not get 17 or Chesterfield to get .
PLAYOFFS we'd need 5 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 14 points (4 wins and 2 draws)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (70 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 1 points to beat us
Burton would need to get (5, 3, 2)
Northampton would need 3
Cheltenham would need to get 6
Exeter would need 8
Rotherham would need 7
Fleetwood would need to get (10, 8, 7)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 15 points, Bradford to get 16, Chesterfield to get , Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 5 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 13 points (4 wins and 1 draw and 1 loss)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (69 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get (4, 2, 1)
Northampton would need 2 points
Cheltenham would need to get 5 points
Exeter would need 7
Rotherham would need 6
Fleetwood would need to get (9, 7, 6)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 14 points, Bradford to get 15, Chesterfield to get , Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 12 points (4 wins 2 losses)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (68 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get (3, 1, 0)
Northampton would need 1 points
Cheltenham would need to get 4
Exeter would need 6
Rotherham would need 5
Fleetwood would need to get (8, 6, 5)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 13 points, Bradford to get 14, Chesterfield to get , Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 11 points (3 wins and 2 draws 1 loss)
(67 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get (2, 0, 0)
Cheltenham would need to get 3
Exeter would need 5
Rotherham would need 4
Fleetwood would need to get (7, 5, 4)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 12 points, Bradford to get 13, Chesterfield to get , Bristol Rovers to get ,
PLAYOFFS we'd need 3 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 10 points (3 wins 1 draw 2 losses)
(66 is the magic number)
Cheltenham would need to get 2
Exeter would need 4
Rotherham would need 3
Fleetwood would need to get (6, 4, 3)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 11 points, Bradford to get 12, Chesterfield to get , Morecambe to not get 15 and Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 3 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 9 points (3 wins 3 losses)
(65 is the magic number)
Cheltenham would need to get 1 point
Exeter would need 3
Rotherham would need 2
Fleetwood would need to get (5, 3, 2)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 10 points, Bradford to get 11, Chesterfield to get , Morecambe to get 15 and Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 2 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 8 points (2 wins 2 draws 2 losses)
(64 is the magic number)
Exeter would need 2
Rotherham would need 1
Fleetwood would need to get (4, 2, 1)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 9 points, Bradford to get 10, Chesterfield to get , Morecambe to get 13 and Bristol Rovers to get , Wycombe to get 16
SOUTHEND CAN’T MAKE THE PLAYOFF WITH 7 POINTS
* NOTE: Fleetwood and Burton haven't finished yet so the brackets indicate what would happen if the team lost, won or draw. So the bracket is the result if a team (L, D, W) hope that helps.
Here are the scenario's if Southend United get 18 points:
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (74 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 5 points to beat us
Northampton need to get 7
Burton would need to get (9, 7, 6)
Cheltenham would need to get 10
Exeter would need 12
Rotherham would need 11
Fleetwood would need to get (14, 12, 11)
FOR PLAYOFFS 6 OR FEWER TEAMS NEED TO BEAT US:
If Southend get 16 points (5 wins 1 draw)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (72 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 3 points to beat us
Burton would need to get (7, 5, 4)
Northampton would need to get 5
Cheltenham would need to get 8
Exeter would need 10
Rotherham would need 9
Fleetwood would need to get (12, 10, 9)
We'd also need Bradford to not get 18 or Chesterfield to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 6 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 15 points (5 wins and 1 loss)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (71 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 2 points to beat us
Burton would need to get (6, 4, 3)
Northampton would need 4
Cheltenham would need to get 7
Exeter would need 9
Rotherham would need 8
Fleetwood would need (11, 9, 8)
We'd also need Bradford to not get 17 or Chesterfield to get .
PLAYOFFS we'd need 5 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 14 points (4 wins and 2 draws)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (70 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 1 points to beat us
Burton would need to get (5, 3, 2)
Northampton would need 3
Cheltenham would need to get 6
Exeter would need 8
Rotherham would need 7
Fleetwood would need to get (10, 8, 7)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 15 points, Bradford to get 16, Chesterfield to get , Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 5 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 13 points (4 wins and 1 draw and 1 loss)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (69 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get (4, 2, 1)
Northampton would need 2 points
Cheltenham would need to get 5 points
Exeter would need 7
Rotherham would need 6
Fleetwood would need to get (9, 7, 6)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 14 points, Bradford to get 15, Chesterfield to get , Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 12 points (4 wins 2 losses)
AUTO PROMOTION AND PLAYOFFS: (68 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get (3, 1, 0)
Northampton would need 1 points
Cheltenham would need to get 4
Exeter would need 6
Rotherham would need 5
Fleetwood would need to get (8, 6, 5)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 13 points, Bradford to get 14, Chesterfield to get , Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 11 points (3 wins and 2 draws 1 loss)
(67 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get (2, 0, 0)
Cheltenham would need to get 3
Exeter would need 5
Rotherham would need 4
Fleetwood would need to get (7, 5, 4)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 12 points, Bradford to get 13, Chesterfield to get , Bristol Rovers to get ,
PLAYOFFS we'd need 3 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 10 points (3 wins 1 draw 2 losses)
(66 is the magic number)
Cheltenham would need to get 2
Exeter would need 4
Rotherham would need 3
Fleetwood would need to get (6, 4, 3)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 11 points, Bradford to get 12, Chesterfield to get , Morecambe to not get 15 and Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 3 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 9 points (3 wins 3 losses)
(65 is the magic number)
Cheltenham would need to get 1 point
Exeter would need 3
Rotherham would need 2
Fleetwood would need to get (5, 3, 2)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 10 points, Bradford to get 11, Chesterfield to get , Morecambe to get 15 and Bristol Rovers to get
PLAYOFFS we'd need 2 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 8 points (2 wins 2 draws 2 losses)
(64 is the magic number)
Exeter would need 2
Rotherham would need 1
Fleetwood would need to get (4, 2, 1)
We'd also need Oxford to not get 9 points, Bradford to get 10, Chesterfield to get , Morecambe to get 13 and Bristol Rovers to get , Wycombe to get 16
SOUTHEND CAN’T MAKE THE PLAYOFF WITH 7 POINTS
* NOTE: Fleetwood and Burton haven't finished yet so the brackets indicate what would happen if the team lost, won or draw. So the bracket is the result if a team (L, D, W) hope that helps.
southend_aussies
I come from a land down under
Observations from me: 12 points would make it interesting but highly unlikely unless a team collapsed. 15-18 points and the whole thing is really, really possible. Will still keep it updated regardless of what happens Monday or for the rest of today.
Eastwood23
Youth Team
I don't believe we will make the playoffs but I have just completed a league two predictor. If and its a huge IF, we win every game until the end of the season, we can make the playoffs. This is literally our last chance - if we pick up maximum points we can do it. However, if we drop a single point then it cannot be achieved. Looking at our fixtures, its not mental to suggest we can win every game - they are all perfectly winnable but so too have been our previous games. Let's just cheer on the blues starting with a huge 3 points on Monday.
yogi bear up the cagire
Life President⭐
Forget it............we've still got Aldershot away.........they're bound to screw us again. :'(
Tangled up in Blue
Certified Senior Citizen⭐🦐
Not if we take our own floodlights.:winking:
yogi bear up the cagire
Life President⭐
If getting into the play-offs relied solely on our competitors, I'd feel a touch more confident after today's results. It's just a pity our form counts as well.:'(
Barling Magna
President⭐🦐
LOL:hilarious:
southend_aussies
I come from a land down under
I know it's pretty much done and dusted but we're still mathematically alive. Here it is Southend United – NOW 10[SUP]th[/SUP] with 57 points with 5 games remaining.
Here are the scenario's if Southend United get 15 points:
(72 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 2 points to beat us
Northampton needs to get 5
Cheltenham would needs to get 5
Burton would need to get 6
Exeter would need 10
Rotherham would need 9
Fleetwood would need to get 13
Bradford would need 15
FOR PLAYOFFS 5 teams or less need to get the points.
If Southend get 13 points (4 wins 1 draw)
(70 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get 4
Northampton would need to get 3
Cheltenham would need to get 3
Exeter would need 8
Rotherham would need 7
Fleetwood would need to get 11
We'd also need Bradford to not get 13 or Chesterfield to get 14
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 teams or less to get the points
If Southend get 12 points (4 wins and 1 loss)
(69 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get 3
Northampton would need 2
Cheltenham would need to get 2
Exeter would need 7
Rotherham would need 6
Fleetwood would need 10
We'd also need Bradford to not get 12 or Chesterfield to get 13 or Bristol Rovers to get 15 .
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 11 points (3 wins and 2 draws)
(68 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get 2
Northampton would need 1
Cheltenham would need to get 1
Exeter would need 6
Rotherham would need 5
Fleetwood would need to get 9
We'd also need Oxford to not get 13 points, Bradford to get 11, Chesterfield to get 12 , Bristol Rovers to get 14
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 10 points (3 wins and 1 draw and 1 loss)
(67 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get 1
Exeter would need 5
Rotherham would need 4
Fleetwood would need to get 8
We'd also need Oxford to not get 12 points, Bradford to get 10, Chesterfield to get 11 , Bristol Rovers to get 13, Wycombe to get 16
PLAYOFFS we'd need 2 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 9 points (3 wins 2 losses)
(66 is the magic number)
Exeter would need 4
Rotherham would need 3
Fleetwood would need to get 7
We'd also need Oxford to not get 11 points, Bradford to get 9, Chesterfield to get 10, Bristol Rovers to get 12, Wycombe to get 15
PLAYOFFS we'd need 1 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 8 points (2 wins and 2 draws 1 loss)
(65 is the magic number)
Exeter would need 3
Rotherham would need 2
Fleetwood would need to get 6
We'd also need Oxford to not get 10 points, Bradford to get 8, Chesterfield to get 9 , Bristol Rovers to get 11, Wycombe to get 14, Rochdale to get 15.
PLAYOFFS we’d need 1 or less of these teams to get those points
If Southend get 7 points it would be almost impossible to get into the playoffs.
Here are the scenario's if Southend United get 15 points:
(72 is the magic number)
Port Vale would need to get 2 points to beat us
Northampton needs to get 5
Cheltenham would needs to get 5
Burton would need to get 6
Exeter would need 10
Rotherham would need 9
Fleetwood would need to get 13
Bradford would need 15
FOR PLAYOFFS 5 teams or less need to get the points.
If Southend get 13 points (4 wins 1 draw)
(70 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get 4
Northampton would need to get 3
Cheltenham would need to get 3
Exeter would need 8
Rotherham would need 7
Fleetwood would need to get 11
We'd also need Bradford to not get 13 or Chesterfield to get 14
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 teams or less to get the points
If Southend get 12 points (4 wins and 1 loss)
(69 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get 3
Northampton would need 2
Cheltenham would need to get 2
Exeter would need 7
Rotherham would need 6
Fleetwood would need 10
We'd also need Bradford to not get 12 or Chesterfield to get 13 or Bristol Rovers to get 15 .
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 11 points (3 wins and 2 draws)
(68 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get 2
Northampton would need 1
Cheltenham would need to get 1
Exeter would need 6
Rotherham would need 5
Fleetwood would need to get 9
We'd also need Oxford to not get 13 points, Bradford to get 11, Chesterfield to get 12 , Bristol Rovers to get 14
PLAYOFFS we'd need 4 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 10 points (3 wins and 1 draw and 1 loss)
(67 is the magic number)
Burton would need to get 1
Exeter would need 5
Rotherham would need 4
Fleetwood would need to get 8
We'd also need Oxford to not get 12 points, Bradford to get 10, Chesterfield to get 11 , Bristol Rovers to get 13, Wycombe to get 16
PLAYOFFS we'd need 2 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 9 points (3 wins 2 losses)
(66 is the magic number)
Exeter would need 4
Rotherham would need 3
Fleetwood would need to get 7
We'd also need Oxford to not get 11 points, Bradford to get 9, Chesterfield to get 10, Bristol Rovers to get 12, Wycombe to get 15
PLAYOFFS we'd need 1 or less of these teams to get those points.
If Southend get 8 points (2 wins and 2 draws 1 loss)
(65 is the magic number)
Exeter would need 3
Rotherham would need 2
Fleetwood would need to get 6
We'd also need Oxford to not get 10 points, Bradford to get 8, Chesterfield to get 9 , Bristol Rovers to get 11, Wycombe to get 14, Rochdale to get 15.
PLAYOFFS we’d need 1 or less of these teams to get those points
If Southend get 7 points it would be almost impossible to get into the playoffs.
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