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TV Highlights Southend United 3-4 Charlton Athletic F A Cup 1st Round Highlights

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Nathan Jones' post match interview was pretty one sided. Not a word of praise for how his mate Kevin Maher's side played. Disappointing from a former Shrimper in the late 1990s.
 
Two mistakes from the much loved Harry Taylor and a decent keeper with good positional sense gets two of them….what is he doing out that far for the fourth, got to go?
 
IloveShrimp said:
So what was Collin meant to do? If he’d stayed on his line and they’d scored you still would have slagged him off.
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No need to be out that far, it was all happening in front of him with the defenders. As usual, bad positioning and should never be a no.1 at this time and he wouldn't be if the likes of Arnold was still around
 
Watched the last goal a few times now and I think both are at fault. Taylor makes a terrible headed clearance but at that point Collin is already coming off his line when he has 3 defenders in front of him, and he gives himself a terrible angle to be caught out. Moments change games and both players made a bad decision with clearly not much communication between them. That said, putting it into perspective, they've played 120 minutes+ against a fitter side and fatigue plays a part in decision making. It's football and it happens. More vital to get there things right in the league where it matters most.
 
wiggy said:
No need to be out that far, it was all happening in front of him with the defenders. As usual, bad positioning and should never be a no.1 at this time and he wouldn't be if the likes of Arnold was still around
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...or Bentley, or Royce, or Sansome, or Cawston, lol!
BTW, you do know Arnold was dropped by Sutton for the last two games?
He hasn't played since a 3-1 home defeat to Oldham on Oct 19.
 
Collin was at fault for the 4th goal, but he wasn't the only one.

Taylor's poor header into a bad spot was a mistake, but would he have made the header if Collin had been vocal and called for the ball? I was directly adjacent to it in East A......I didn't think Collin called at the time, and I still don't think he did after watching the replay.

Similarly, if Taylor had called, maybe Collin wouldn't have come out.

So poor communication from both players there, and a bad header from Taylor.

The second phase was a mistake from Collin too, imo. I don't think he should have come out for it. He didn't really need to with Crowther there, should have left it to him. If Crowther didn't get there, then at least Collin would have been in the goal for the shot.

Feel like Crowther could have stopped the shot on the line too, it was straight at him.

Lots of learning all round there, but shows up again that we're lacking some leadership and a conductor at the back.
 
BoyWonder2 said:
That was my initial thought in the ground, and having watched the highlights (it still hurts), I’m still of the opinion he should have got his head on that.
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I still think we need a big experienced centre back who is a leader and strikes fear into opposition attackers. Might’ve made the difference yesterday. Crowther is coming on well and Taylor had a decent performance, 4th goal and the mistake leading to them hitting the bar aside. You’d hope someone like that’s on the radar? I know maybe not available now but in Jan to aid us in the run-in.
 
Leigh_Seasider said:
I still think we need a big experienced centre back who is a leader and strikes fear into opposition attackers. Might’ve made the difference yesterday. Crowther is coming on well and Taylor had a decent performance, 4th goal and the mistake leading to them hitting the bar aside. You’d hope someone like that’s on the radar? I know maybe not available now but in Jan to aid us in the run-in.
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Be interesting to see the plans with the defence moving forward.

Bridge was excellent yesterday, and I think Ralph has had a very good season. He has an incredible leap on him, and Taylor gets up okay too, but Crowther is our only real height in there.

As I said yesterday, defender set pieces it looked like men against boys due to the sheer size of them. We lack that physicality, all three of our centre half’s got bullied by Leaburn. He was good, and will bully most League One defenders.

I know we want another “project” centre back. Like Kensdale was when he came in, and Brooklyn too. One that will come in, potentially from lower down the pyramid, and be allowed time to get himself up to speed, learn off of those with the shirt and eventually become a starter.

How is Jenkins, ex-Chelmsford City man now at Aldershot, getting on? It was close between him and Crowther coming in, and obviously Crowther did.
 
wiggy said:
No need to be out that far, it was all happening in front of him with the defenders. As usual, bad positioning and should never be a no.1 at this time and he wouldn't be if the likes of Arnold was still around
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Arnold wouldn't have dealt with the two 50/50's Collin won outside the box or not put the ball on Bonnes head for the equaliser. With Arnold in Goal we may have lost 4-0
 
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BoyWonder2 said:
Be interesting to see the plans with the defence moving forward.

Bridge was excellent yesterday, and I think Ralph has had a very good season. He has an incredible leap on him, and Taylor gets up okay too, but Crowther is our only real height in there.

As I said yesterday, defender set pieces it looked like men against boys due to the sheer size of them. We lack that physicality, all three of our centre half’s got bullied by Leaburn. He was good, and will bully most League One defenders.

I know we want another “project” centre back. Like Kensdale was when he came in, and Brooklyn too. One that will come in, potentially from lower down the pyramid, and be allowed time to get himself up to speed, learn off of those with the shirt and eventually become a starter.

How is Jenkins, ex-Chelmsford City man now at Aldershot, getting on? It was close between him and Crowther coming in, and obviously Crowther did.
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Yeah to be honest we won’t meet a team down here with the size/physicality of Charlton but it did highlight where our current back 3 do lack savvy/strength/experience. I’m sure as you say we’ll be looking for rhe “next Kensdale” and someone confident in bringing the ball out. While people knock Collin though they should consider, no real “leaders” amongst our current CB’s so that has an impact on the whole unit, organisation etc.
 
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