Smoking At Roots Hall During The Game!

[ShrimperJim]

As a smoker, I'm all for the smoking ban.
I don't smoke in the seats as I don't want my fag smoke blowing in peoples faces. If I can go 45 minutes without a smoke than I'm sure others can.

 

[shrimper roman]

kick out the smokers

 

[TerryintheWest]

and me, my enjoyment on Tuesday was spoiled by a chain smoking trio in front of me.

 

[BoyWonder2]

Quote[/b] (TerryintheWest @ Mar. 10 2005,23:51)]and me, my enjoyment on Tuesday was spoiled by a chain smoking trio in front of me.  

Nothing could have ruined my enjoyment on tuesday night.

 

[Guest]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ Mar. 10 2005,21:19)]If people want to smoke, they can. Its a free country after all although if there's a series risk to en-danger thousands of people then the situation should be addressed.

Free Country

Have you not heard of taxes. i don't call being taxed living in a free country the only way this is a free country is if you hide in a lorry to get here.

 

[Technician]

I really love it when non-smokers come out with all these prejudices against the smoker. I am a smoker and don't specifically care what non-smokers think about my habit (this issue doesn't affect me anyway as I can't smoke within the stands, being as I am matchday staff).

However, you are all missing important issues here... some of you walk along Victoria Avenue or West Road to get to the game... right??? Well, why don't you lot take issue with the number 7 bus and it's driver for chucking out diesel particulates into the atmosphere (linked to asthma) or ask drivers to switch their engines off when idling at the traffic lights at the aforementioned junction.

Similarly, if the club is to ban smoking within the playing arena, then why not drinking too... there are so many incidents of anti-social behaviour by individuals who can't hold their drink, it can have similarly harmful consequences on a family orientated arena.

As for those who think that Stewards do bugger all for their money, well maybe... but let's face it, if someone is going to conceal a bottle of booze from one of the bars or light up a fag on a freezing cold night, how are you going to spot one or two individuals in a crowd of 8000 fans!!!

Get with the programme guys!!!

 

[Csboy]

A typical ignorrant reply from a smoker there. If you want to poison yourself then by all means go ahead but don't poison the rest of us.

Chelsea has a total smoking ban so why can't Southend? They get 40,000 crowds and a higher holligan element so why can't Southend?
I think a petition is called for here

 

[CANV]

i dont think someone having the odd fag at footy is a life threatening exercise.. as was mentioned, you breathe in more sh*t walking down victoria avenue or through the car park.. its not difficult to have a smoke in a considerate manner.. the problems come when people smoke 15 through the course of the match and have no regard for the people around them (a truly modern disease).. the safety issues in the wooden east stand cant be ignored no matter how often the place is cleaned.. whilst i enjoy a smoke at football i think in light of the above it should be banned ..
from a health point of view more good would be done from banning it in the bars in the ground than outside in the seats..
personally i find the sight and smell of someone eating a burger in my proximity a lot more offensive than someone having a marlboro light.. i mean its a football match not a cafe.. why people queue for em and miss part of the match is beyond me.. finishing your second half time pint tho.. well thats a different matter altogether:D

 

[The Artful Shrimper]

Ban it definately. And in the bars and pubs too. One day this will happen anyway and like the trains we'll wonder how we ever put up with it. have a totally segregated area perhaps but don't let non-smokers/ ex smokers etc have to live with it.
Its a health and safety issue and if I did a COSHH assessment (Constraint of substances hazardous to health) the club would HAVE to ban it

I have a form in my hand and a pen and I get bored on fridays

 

[Shrimp in a Kilt]

Quote[/b] (Technician @ Mar. 11 2005,01:22)]I really love it when non-smokers come out with all these prejudices against the smoker. I am a smoker and don't specifically care what non-smokers think about my habit (this issue doesn't affect me anyway as I can't smoke within the stands, being as I am matchday staff).

However, you are all missing important issues here... some of you walk along Victoria Avenue or West Road to get to the game... right??? Well, why don't you lot take issue with the number 7 bus and it's driver for chucking out diesel particulates into the atmosphere (linked to asthma) or ask drivers to switch their engines off when idling at the traffic lights at the aforementioned junction.

Similarly, if the club is to ban smoking within the playing arena, then why not drinking too... there are so many incidents of anti-social behaviour by individuals who can't hold their drink, it can have similarly harmful consequences on a family orientated arena.

As for those who think that Stewards do bugger all for their money, well maybe... but let's face it, if someone is going to conceal a bottle of booze from one of the bars or light up a fag on a freezing cold night, how are you going to spot one or two individuals in a crowd of 8000 fans!!!

Get with the programme guys!!!  

Shame on you Techie, that's just nonsense and you know it. Yes of course there are other sources of pollution about, but that doesn't make your pollution acceptable. The issue here is not smoking per se, but smoking in the confines of the stands during a match, when as has been mentioned there is little or no opportunity to escape the fumes. It is avoidable, and should be banned.

 

[Banksy]

Quote[/b] (bas blue @ Mar. 10 2005,20:51)]why cant we have one section of the ground just for smokers ?

No smoking full stop. And I was that smoker !

It surely must be a fire hazard in our old ground !

 

[CANV]

a truly excellent point, 'smoking on trains'.... ahh happy times.. getting in the smoking carraige as its the only place to get on the train let alone get a seat.. wet sheepskin coats, steamed up windows and thick ciggy smoke.. i wonder how i survived!....
smoking bans are coming.. you cant argue against them, but the smoker will go down fighting in the only way left open to him.. annoying the sh*t out of anti smoking nazis..

 

[Draft Shrimper]

Seems the consensus is that there should be a ban, I can't stand smocking personally. I'm sure a ban will be introduced soon, certainly when (if?) we get a new stadium.

For the Mansfield game at home a mate of mine, who doesn't normally watch Southend, had to sit next (east black) to some guy who smocked one fag after another for the whole game and was coughing continuously. He sounded like he had the plague. I felt sorry for my mate.

Please introduce a ban soon!

 

[Firestorm]

I understood that certain parts of thee ground were smoking and others non smoking.
It is all down to stewarding again...

There are regulations (regardless of the reason for them) about Abusive language, standing , and smoking amongst others none of them are enforced.

If everyone stuck to regulations and, the more difficult bit, people used common courtesy, there would be no need for draconian blanket bans.

 

[Firestorm]

Bit of an aside, does anyone know of any statistics relating to annual deaths caused by someone else smoking compared to say deaths caused by someone else drinking ?

 

[Shrimp in a Kilt]

Quote[/b] (Firestorm @ Mar. 11 2005,08:58)]Bit of an aside, does anyone know of any statistics relating to annual deaths caused by someone else smoking compared to say deaths caused by someone else drinking ?

New Scientist - Passive Smoking Deaths

It is much harder to quantify how many people die as a result of other people's drinking, but the main causes would be, I think, Drink Driving and Assaults by people who have been drinking. Passive smoking kills around 3600 in the UK every year (see above). As total Motor Vehicle and Homicide deaths from all causes are not far different from that, it seems clear that passive smoking is by far the biggest killer.

 

[Banksy]

Quote[/b] (Shrimp in a Kilt @ Mar. 11 2005,09:06)]

Quote[/b] (Firestorm @ Mar. 11 2005,08:58)]Bit of an aside, does anyone know of any statistics relating to annual deaths caused by someone else smoking compared to say deaths caused by someone else drinking ?

New Scientist - Passive Smoking Deaths

It is much harder to quantify how many people die as a result of other people's drinking, but the main causes would be, I think, Drink Driving and Assaults by people who have been drinking. Passive smoking kills around 3600 in the UK every year (see above). As total Motor Vehicle and Homicide deaths from all causes are not far different from that, it seems clear that passive smoking is by far the biggest killer.

What ever the stats., smoking is not good for you and I was a smoker and thankfully having given up 17 years ago, I do not have any health problems at the moment ( but who knows).

But surely, health problems apart, our ground is old and I believe, a potential fire risk, particularly the East Stand !

I dont have problems with people that smoke - I've been there ! But those whingers that have never smoked should really understand that it is an addiction and hard to drop.

 

[Firestorm]

>>But those whingers that have never smoked should really understand that it is an addiction and hard to drop. <<

Rubbish, its easy to give up smoking, I've done it loads of times

 

[The Flying Scotsman]

What a bunch of women!! I'm a non-smoker and am totally against any sort of ban. There are more important things to worry about.

 

[Banksy]

Quote[/b] (Firestorm @ Mar. 11 2005,09:27)]>>But those whingers that have never smoked should really understand that it is an addiction and hard to drop. <<

Rubbish, its easy to give up smoking, I've done it loads of times  

Just like I used to do !