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Should British Police be armed.

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Yorkshire Blue said:
Possibly.

It's difficult to correctly identify targets in the heat of the moment and it's too easy to make mistakes.
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The problem with the Brazilian was not the people who shot him. They actually shot the person they were told to. It was poor surveillance that lead to the wrong person being identified.

However London was going through an exceptional period having had 7/7 and then the failed bombs the following Thursday ,again on the tube. I would say he was a victim of the Terror campaign.
 
rigsby said:
I think most people would agree to that.

The point I was making when I mentioned the Nice incident was that if it was say the Air Show in Southend, then none of the police manning any barriers would be armed. We would have no chance of stopping a lorry even if it went the length of the sea front turned round and had another go.

One armed response car even with four officers would struggle to have any effect.
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And Nice was an extremely rare event, to arm our entire force to cope with the most extreme events isn't an appropriate level of readiness.
 
I know a relatively large number of police officers, and this has come up before. Speaking from personal experience only, the vast majority I have spoken to say they would prefer not to be armed, and the ones who would definitely want to carry a gun are generally the same ones I personally would prefer not to.

I agree with previous comments supporting a potential increase in specialist armed response units, rather than a more general arming of the force, although anyone who thinks that we are actually likely to add to the ranks of the police force in the UK is deluded, but I digress.
 
Jam_Man said:
And Nice was an extremely rare event, to arm our entire force to cope with the most extreme events isn't an appropriate level of readiness.
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Mass murder by a person or persons who have linked themselves to some from of jihad is certainly no longer a rare event.
 
Why any police officer would willingly work for SO19 is beyond me. They operate in extremely stressful situations often making life and death calls in split seconds.
The officer who shot Lee Ribgy's murderer would have been suspended immediately after her heroic actions as this is the norm when a officer discharges their firearm. They are normally investigated by a outside force and usually one with next to no comparison to the metropolitan one. They are also very often not backed up by management and end up having to fight for their careers in the courts.

Dead Brazilian electrician comments are a cheap shot and not very inventive. Try remembering this, people usually run away from trouble - police officers have to run towards it. Give them some respect.
 
Just heard on radio - someone has driven a lorry full of gas cylinders into an underground car park in Sydney. No other news yet.
 
Actually a car, and apparently not a terror attack but a "mental health issue". Which seems to be the same thing to me.
 
RobM said:
Just heard on radio - someone has driven a lorry full of gas cylinders into an underground car park in Sydney. No other news yet.
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I just drove a car full of humans into a Scottish service station. No other news yet
 
Jam_Man said:
Actually a car, and apparently not a terror attack but a "mental health issue". Which seems to be the same thing to me.
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Rather insulting to bracket people with mental health issues with the sort of people who stormed the Bataclan theatre. Or made the decision to swerve side to side in a lorry to scrape as many women and children along floor as possible.
 
MK Shrimper said:
As America is in a cycle of cops kill black man - black man kills cops I'll say no.
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Don't fall for the media bias or Black Lives Matter. Look at FACTS when talking about police shootings in the USA. Then for every one of the police shootings that have made the media look at how many times a shooting has occurred because the victim wasn't following police orders.

Thank God we are not America and thank God the British Police Force have a bit more of a rounded view. I'd argue they are better placed than any of us to decide on such things.

I actually think a better comparison for arming British police would be in Europe. You will never get anything sensible from the US with the right to bear arms vs the liberals and no middle ground.
 
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