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Round 1, Heat 2 - Blue Bloods v Roots
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Pubey
Guest
Not seen either, so need some convincing.
Uncle Leo
This cook is an anti-semite
Not seen Blue Bloods, but Roots was an impressive epic telling the tale of a black African slave brought to America and his descendants. In this scene, the original hero - ****a Kinte - is refusing to take the name his slave masters have imposed upon him. You may want to fast forward to 4:00. Oh and this isn't for the faint hearted!
[video=youtube;ByhFz5e5Tno]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByhFz5e5Tno[/video]
[video=youtube;ByhFz5e5Tno]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByhFz5e5Tno[/video]
Dick Bate's Protege
Minister for Equality
OBL has shamefully pulled out the 'race card' here and should immediately be stopped in her tracks; lest you're all on a charge of positive discrimination.
Unlike The Wire's drawn out plots over many series, the characters of Blue Bloods get deep down and dirty, solving crimes in quick order to keep the streets of New York safe at night. An example of this was when the token rookie cop single handedly brought down the mafia in the space of a handful of episodes.
The clincher in this battle should be the presence of Tom Selleck who is so God damned hunky, that even I, a married man with kids, would succumb to his charm...
Vote Blue Bloods or OBL takes over the World!!!
Unlike The Wire's drawn out plots over many series, the characters of Blue Bloods get deep down and dirty, solving crimes in quick order to keep the streets of New York safe at night. An example of this was when the token rookie cop single handedly brought down the mafia in the space of a handful of episodes.
The clincher in this battle should be the presence of Tom Selleck who is so God damned hunky, that even I, a married man with kids, would succumb to his charm...
Vote Blue Bloods or OBL takes over the World!!!
MK Shrimper
Striker
Never seen Roots. Blue Bloods is (watchable) rubbish though :hilarious:
OldBlueLady
Junior Blues Coordinator⭐⭐🦐
Haha! Sorry DBP, can't help the fact that the book is one of my all time favourites and that the series had such a profound effect.
This was the intro to the series, a taste of what was to come...
[video=youtube;a5JP0IFqkGQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5JP0IFqkGQ[/video]
Now, before anyone pulls it out of the bag, I know that Alex Haley has been described as the "Lance Armstrong of the literary world", for bending the truth a little about the "non fiction" aspects of his book, and that there were allegations of plagiarism. Thankfully though, we're not judging the book here but the TV series, and we know that the Americans like to take a few...errr...liberties with literary works.
Anyway, basically, Roots is the story of Alex Haley's paternal predecessors going back 12 generations to a small tribe in Africa, where a young man by the name of K-u-n-t-a Kinte was taken forcibly from his tribe, crossed the Atlantic to America on a ship crammed with other black Africans, where he was sold as a slave, and given the name Toby by his new "massa".
The series went on to show the struggles of K-u-n-t-a and the following generations, through the time of slavery (with several of the young women slaves raped by their owners, and their children then being looked down on because they were mulatto rather than black). It told how slave families could be ripped apart on a whim by a "massa", needing to meet a debt. K-u-n-t-a's own daughter Kizzy was sold to another plantation owner who forced himself upon her, and the shame she felt when she saw the colour of her baby's skin, and how she's actually relieved she no longer lived with her parents so her father would see her shame. It told how the later generations of slaves sought to be free, and saved and saved to earn that privilege.
In the background, the civil rights and American Civil War play out their history, the Klu Klux Klan make their appearances, yet throughout, each one of K-u-n-t-a's children pass on to their offspring a few precious words, traditions and stories of their predecessors. Kizzy tells her son George about how K-u-n-t-a's foot was chopped off to stop him running away, how K-u-n-t-a came from Africa a called a fiddle a "ko" and lived near a river "Kamby Bolongo", and George tells his own children the same.
It's from this information, that experts later work out for Alex that K-u-n-t-a's tribe were the Mandinka people from the Gambia. Alex travels to Africa and there, by arrangement, meets an old African man, a griot. Griots were like walking archives of oral history and as part of the old man's narrative, Alex is told that "about the time the Kind's soldiers came, the eldest of these four sons, K-u-n-t-a, went away from his village to chop wood...and he was never seen again." His interpreter informs the griot of Alex's history and the whole village then welcomes him as one of them, part of their family.
It's incredibly powerful, both the book and the film. Incredibly graphic, incredibly moving. It seems amazing that the tv series is now 35 years old, and yes, if you watched any of it now, it would look incredibly dated, but the message, the passion, the power of the work is still as strong, still as memorable.
If you've not read the book, I urge you to do so. View it as fiction based on fact though! Vote ROOTS.
Wiki link here for anyone interested http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_(TV_miniseries)
(Can't believe the swear filter blocked his name!)
This was the intro to the series, a taste of what was to come...
[video=youtube;a5JP0IFqkGQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5JP0IFqkGQ[/video]
Now, before anyone pulls it out of the bag, I know that Alex Haley has been described as the "Lance Armstrong of the literary world", for bending the truth a little about the "non fiction" aspects of his book, and that there were allegations of plagiarism. Thankfully though, we're not judging the book here but the TV series, and we know that the Americans like to take a few...errr...liberties with literary works.
Anyway, basically, Roots is the story of Alex Haley's paternal predecessors going back 12 generations to a small tribe in Africa, where a young man by the name of K-u-n-t-a Kinte was taken forcibly from his tribe, crossed the Atlantic to America on a ship crammed with other black Africans, where he was sold as a slave, and given the name Toby by his new "massa".
The series went on to show the struggles of K-u-n-t-a and the following generations, through the time of slavery (with several of the young women slaves raped by their owners, and their children then being looked down on because they were mulatto rather than black). It told how slave families could be ripped apart on a whim by a "massa", needing to meet a debt. K-u-n-t-a's own daughter Kizzy was sold to another plantation owner who forced himself upon her, and the shame she felt when she saw the colour of her baby's skin, and how she's actually relieved she no longer lived with her parents so her father would see her shame. It told how the later generations of slaves sought to be free, and saved and saved to earn that privilege.
In the background, the civil rights and American Civil War play out their history, the Klu Klux Klan make their appearances, yet throughout, each one of K-u-n-t-a's children pass on to their offspring a few precious words, traditions and stories of their predecessors. Kizzy tells her son George about how K-u-n-t-a's foot was chopped off to stop him running away, how K-u-n-t-a came from Africa a called a fiddle a "ko" and lived near a river "Kamby Bolongo", and George tells his own children the same.
It's from this information, that experts later work out for Alex that K-u-n-t-a's tribe were the Mandinka people from the Gambia. Alex travels to Africa and there, by arrangement, meets an old African man, a griot. Griots were like walking archives of oral history and as part of the old man's narrative, Alex is told that "about the time the Kind's soldiers came, the eldest of these four sons, K-u-n-t-a, went away from his village to chop wood...and he was never seen again." His interpreter informs the griot of Alex's history and the whole village then welcomes him as one of them, part of their family.
It's incredibly powerful, both the book and the film. Incredibly graphic, incredibly moving. It seems amazing that the tv series is now 35 years old, and yes, if you watched any of it now, it would look incredibly dated, but the message, the passion, the power of the work is still as strong, still as memorable.
If you've not read the book, I urge you to do so. View it as fiction based on fact though! Vote ROOTS.
Wiki link here for anyone interested http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_(TV_miniseries)
(Can't believe the swear filter blocked his name!)
MK Shrimper
Striker
How do you pronounce **** ?
Dick Bate's Protege
Minister for Equality
There you go, OBL has admitted the author made it all up, and by mentioning Lance Armstrong, once again condones the use of drugs to achieve her aims.
steveo
mine to stay the same please
Alex Haley made it up? Scandalous. He should have kept it realistic like they did in Blue Bloods.
Dick Bate's Protege
Minister for Equality
You're speaking my language...
OldBlueLady
Junior Blues Coordinator⭐⭐🦐
Lol, well, not made it up exactly, rather bent the truth a bit!
Oh, and a whole lot of reviews here, for anyone that wants to while away some time...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075572/reviews
Dick Bate's Protege
Minister for Equality
I think we should spice this up a bit. If I win, you should pass over your position within the Trust to me. Deal?
OldBlueLady
Junior Blues Coordinator⭐⭐🦐
Why do I need to pass it over, you could just offer your services and become a committee member!!! :raspberry:
MrB
Life President
I started watching Blue Bloods when it came on Sky Atlantic along with Boardwalk Empire, Sopranos and Battlestar Galactica. My planner soon got too cluttered so I had to sacrifice one of them and as it was about a million times more rubbish than the others it was an easy decision.
Having said that, I've never seen Roots either so BB gets my vote by default :dim:
Having said that, I've never seen Roots either so BB gets my vote by default :dim:
OldBlueLady
Junior Blues Coordinator⭐⭐🦐
MK Shrimper
Striker
Everyone has to be born or they'd just be imaginary :winking:
OldBlueLady
Junior Blues Coordinator⭐⭐🦐
Born when it was on!!!!! As you well know!!! :angry:
MK Shrimper
Striker
:whistling:
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