Ron's Xmas Card List Shortens Further!..

[londonblue]

The Grays chairman seems pretty adamant that they will be getting their (alleged) part of the cash though, even threatens to take us to court

As did the Rotherham Chairman.

 

[wiggy]

"Southend have denied it because now they are big time Charlies as they are in the Championship and they think they can get away with it, but trust me they will not."

Sounds like sour grapes if the best the Grays Chairman can do is resort to slagging Southend off. It's poor business acumen if Grays failed to get that written in the contract, and demonstrates just how sharp Ron Martin is.

Will be feeling a bit blunt tomorrow!

 

[londonblue]

I was wondering that too!

:D

I took it as a compliment. :D

 

[londonblue]

Sounds like sour grapes if the best the Grays Chairman can do is resort to slagging Southend off. It's poor business acumen if Grays failed to get that written in the contract, and demonstrates just how sharp Ron Martin is.

Was just about to say the same, but couldn't be bothered to type it!

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

At the time there was a percentage payable to Grays if Freddy got sold on.

and you know this as a fact do you? it seems to me this is the stumbling block.

not one of the potential witnesses are you?

 

[Richard Hearn]

If this is true it's no wonder other clubs seem loath to do business with us.

 

[Kent Shrimper]

To be honest its gonna be pretty hard to prove a verbal agreement, even if there are so called witnesses and personally i think the Ron should give grays a % but not what there demanding maybe 5 - 10% as a gesture of good will

 

[TTS]

About time we were not the ones being pushed around.

I personally think it is good that we have a chairman with large cojones !!!

 

[GodblessArthurRowley]

Those verbal agreements just aren't worth the paper they're written on.

 

[Boreham Shrimper]

Those verbal agreements just aren't worth the paper they're written on.

It's always a bit difficult to enforce them but theoretically they can be as valid as any other contract. In this case though, I bet they're wishing they'd have got it in writing, if indeed such a sell-on clause exists :D

 

[Andy_Shrimp]

I'm no lawyer but as I understand it (and referring to the comments made in South Banks post) if we had a deal in principal when we first took him and thay "may" have included a sell on clause and then Grays changed the terms to the extent of upping he fee then the original contract would be void and the new terms (i.e. fee) would take precedent as we would have to have considered the revised terms and if the sell on fee was not agreed "verbally" at that time I can't see where Grays can go with this

As I say I am no lawyer and may be proved wrong but that is how I understand it in basic terms.

 

[prittlewellshrimper]

I have the solution to this one . Instead of any cash give them back Mitchell "mummy said i mustn't get me knees dirty " Cole .....? NOW. !

 

[Jam_Man]

At the time there was a percentage payable to Grays if Freddy got sold on. If he is welching out of this one as well then hope he knows how it feels to be treated like **** tomorrow when his plans get turned down!

Not if you read the article there wasnt.

The price we paid was put up and the sell on fee removed according to Ron Martin.

Now at the moment thats Rons word only but whats interesting, and unsurprising, is you immediately take a stance against the club and side with Grays.

If theres a sell on fee its in the contract, if its not in the contract then Grays should have known to get one put in.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I'm no lawyer but as I understand it (and referring to the comments made in South Banks post) if we had a deal in principal when we first took him and thay "may" have included a sell on clause and then Grays changed the terms to the extent of upping he fee then the original contract would be void and the new terms (i.e. fee) would take precedent as we would have to have considered the revised terms and if the sell on fee was not agreed "verbally" at that time I can't see where Grays can go with this

As I say I am no lawyer and may be proved wrong but that is how I understand it in basic terms.

You are basically right. When Grays asked for more money they made a counter offer. A counter offer means an implied rejection of the previous offer.

 

[South Bank Hank]

At the time there was a percentage payable to Grays if Freddy got sold on. If he is welching out of this one as well then hope he knows how it feels to be treated like **** tomorrow when his plans get turned down!

So Wiggles, any comments or are you happy to concede that you DO only appear when things aren't "running smoothly"?

Sounds to me like you owe someone an apology?

 

[South Bank Hank]

So Wiggles, any comments or are you happy to concede that you DO only appear when things aren't "running smoothly"?

Sounds to me like you owe someone an apology?

Giggles....?

 

[wiggy]

Giggles....?

Knew you'd drag that one back up Hank. Concede Ron is a canny businessman although he may have to sit in the whelchair enclosure of the new stadium if Mickey Woodward catches up with him. Now it's been approved i am actually looking forward to it, don't like to be too optimistic to early as you know!

 

[Southendsleeper]

Now it's been approved i am actually looking forward to it, don't like to be too optimistic to early as you know!

:eek:

Oh and love the avatar Wiggy

 

[Blues Trader]

It does seem bizarre to me that Grays would be so niave to let a player go on a handshake. I think they could be on a sticky wicket.

 

[londonblue]

I think that in the last few days Ron's xmas card list has grown out of all proportion!