Ron is our key man

[Midlands Shrimper]

I think its becoming clearer and clearer to me that the person most responsible for our success over the past few years is Ron . going back to the days of Rubin , Johnson and Jobson , what this club have always lacked is a really good man at the top .
He appointed Tilly
He has got the finances on an even keel
He has submitted plans for the new ground
He has acted decisively on a failed gamble - Ricketts
Hopefully he will keep Tilly here

This guy deserves more recognition IMHO

 

[Napster]

I'll judge him when the new stadium's up and running, thanks, that was always his main raison d'etre

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

Here Here, I reckon Ron is the man who can get a tried & tested manager that is good enough to take Southend to next level if Tilson choose to leave the club next week as Tilson will be hard for a young & inexperince manager to step in Tilson hot seat.

 

[shrimper_sam]

i agree, alot of respect has to go to Ron.

 

[Shrimper2thecore]

GO Ron

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Agreed I dont think Ron gets anything like the respect he deserves

 

[londonblue]

Quote[/b] (Midlands Shrimper @ Oct. 13 2006,13:00)]I think its becoming clearer and clearer to me that the person most responsible for our success over the past few years is Ron . going back to the days of Rubin , Johnson and Jobson , what this club have always lacked is a really good man at the top .
He appointed Tilly
He has got the finances on an even keel
He has submitted plans for the new ground
He has acted decisively on a failed gamble - Ricketts
Hopefully he will keep Tilly here

This guy deserves more recognition IMHO

And more to the point, if Tilly does leave he will hopefully get the right replacement.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Quote[/b] (londonblue @ Oct. 13 2006,13:44)]And more to the point, if Tilly does leave she will hopefully get the right replacement.

 

[londonblue]

Quote[/b] (Spaceman Spiff @ Oct. 13 2006,13:47)]

Quote[/b] (londonblue @ Oct. 13 2006,13:44)]And more to the point, if Tilly does leave she will hopefully get the right replacement.

 

where?

 

[N'Zamba Legend]

Apart from Tilson (which was an accident), Ron's ability to pick managers must be questioned. His choices so far have been uninspired:

Webb (mk.III- heart obviously wasn't in it and wasted loads of money on some really sh!t players)
Newman (another convenient choice, clearly wasn't cut out for the role)
Wignall (best of a bad bunch allegedly; unsuccesful on the pitch but undoubtedly laid some of the groundwork for our success)
Tilson (convenient choice and got lucky; also remember how long it took him to actually appoint Tilson on anything other than a week-by-week basis)

 

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (N'Zamba Legend @ Oct. 13 2006,13:56)]Apart from Tilson (which was an accident), Ron's ability to pick managers must be questioned. His choices so far have been uninspired:

Webb (mk.III- heart obviously wasn't in it and wasted loads of money on some really sh!t players)
Newman (another convenient choice, clearly wasn't cut out for the role)
Wignall (best of a bad bunch allegedly; unsuccesful on the pitch but undoubtedly laid some of the groundwork for our success)
Tilson (convenient choice and got lucky; also remember how long it took him to actually appoint Tilson on anything other than a week-by-week basis)

How much was Robson influential in any of this?

 

[Leeboy]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Oct. 13 2006,14:13)]How much was Robson influential in any of this?

so much so that he got a brain tumour


oh......... Stewart Robson

 

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (Midlands Shrimper @ Oct. 13 2006,13:00)]He appointed Tilly
He has got the finances on an even keel
He has submitted plans for the new ground
He has acted decisively on a failed gamble - Ricketts
Hopefully he will keep Tilly here

This guy deserves more recognition IMHO

He got lucky. Tilly had no managerial experience, and of the shortlist, he was probably the least worst
Has he? Or was this an effect of our success rather than his financial astuteness?
About three years too late. And with lots of wrangling with Delancey, Lansbury and so on.
Ricketts- how can we be sure this is Ron's doing? It could be GK, it could be Tilly. It could be anyone
Hopefully...but if he does or doesn't the final say belongs to Tilly.

I hate the way Ron is championed with the success that the lads and Tilly/Brush has achieved.

Yes, Im sure Ron is a fan now, but he was always after the long term aim of making SEL as profitable as possible. If that helps SUFC then fine.

 

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (Leeboy @ Oct. 13 2006,14:17)]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Oct. 13 2006,14:13)]How much was Robson influential in any of this?

so much so that he got a brain tumour


oh......... Stewart   Robson  

I was expecting a Bryan Robson joke, not a Bobby one.

 

[MrB]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Oct. 13 2006,13:19)]that was always his main raison d'etre

Spare me your foreign mumbo jumbo.....

 

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (MrB @ Oct. 13 2006,15:45)]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ Oct. 13 2006,13:19)]that was always his main raison d'etre

Spare me your foreign mumbo jumbo.....

Non

 

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

GO Ron
It's not any ONE person that has helped have this success its everyone, from Ron right down to the players and people who have helped clean out dressing rooms ect.

 

[Hong Kong Blue]

Quote[/b] (N'Zamba Legend @ Oct. 13 2006,13:56)]Apart from Tilson (which was an accident), Ron's ability to pick managers must be questioned. His choices so far have been uninspired:

Webb (mk.III- heart obviously wasn't in it and wasted loads of money on some really sh!t players)
Newman (another convenient choice, clearly wasn't cut out for the role)
Wignall (best of a bad bunch allegedly; unsuccesful on the pitch but undoubtedly laid some of the groundwork for our success)
Tilson (convenient choice and got lucky; also remember how long it took him to actually appoint Tilson on anything other than a week-by-week basis)

Not sure if this was a serious comment or not, bearing in mind the poster, but I don't have any complaints about Ron Martin's choice of managers. Choosing managers is a lottery - what had Tilly on his CV that Rob Newman hadn't? The only managers with experience available are ones who have been sacked and nobody sees moving to a club bottom of the 4th division as a good career move.

The key thing is that Ron Martin got rid of the managers who were no good. Sacking Little and Wignall was brutal, but the right move.

ps In the context of the belt-tightening that needed to take place I think Webb MkIII wasn't nearly as bad as everyone makes out.

 

[Hong Kong Blue]

Also meant to say, the reason why Ron is the key man is that he needs to be the one who doesn't get wrapped up in all our success and keeps a tight grip on our finances, so that if/when we go down we can still break even.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ Oct. 13 2006,15:57)]ps In the context of the belt-tightening that needed to take place I think Webb MkIII wasn't nearly as bad as everyone makes out.

The belt couldn't have needed tightening too much if Webb was allowed to spend £36K on Pony Richards, £40k on Barrington Belgrave and £30K+ on Mark Rawle.