Raoul Moat

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

He is a murderer and was given loads of chances to give himself up. I would quite happily have pulled the trigger.

What did his brother want for him, a medal?

Also he threatened to kill innocent members of the public. Good job the old bill found him. Anyone feeling sorry for him, just spare a thought to the Three people he shot.

 

[osymandus]

Also he threatened to kill innocent members of the public. Good job the old bill found him. Anyone feeling sorry for him, just spare a thought to the Three people he shot.

How about all of them . He was mentaly unfit to begin with . The info wasn't passed on , the worry and stress of teh poor *******s sent out to hunt him down , and the prospect of having to know you can shoot another person and live with that . Give the police credit they did very well , they didnt send out assisnation squads, they wanted him alive . Just the way it ended, may well have not been for the best .

 

[SUBBlue]

The reports in the press are making me laugh at the moment..

"The police used tasers... potentially causing muscle spasms that made him pull the trigger!!" - What a crock - can you spell 'compensation'? !!

"Family anger at Raoul death" - His brother thinks he could have a done a better job at talking to him instead of trained negotiators..

No sympathy here- he should have thought about the repercussions before going out & shooting 3 people...
Good job it happened the way it did as if he'd have been locked up for being a mentalist the government would have released him in 5 years as "safe" & "reabilitated"...

The people who were shot were the real victims & not this dead nutter....

 

[Perth Bambi]

Where has this stuff about him being mentally ill come from. People only seem to have started claiming this since he has died. If there was a full psych assessment then fair enough but is their any evidence this happened?

 

[osymandus]

Irrationally shooting people for one , help bent on revenge , paranoia blaming others for his own actions , taking on a suicidal course of action by declaring war on police . Also most of the week has had Psychiatrist and Forensic psychologists on radio and tv declaring he was not of a sound mind.

This is terrible all round .

 

[osymandus]

"The police used tasers... potentially causing muscle spasms that made him pull the trigger!!" - What a crock - can you spell 'compensation'? !!

Because that's what tasers do to you they put your muscles in to spasam , and they involuntary flip out . We wouldnt know why they did it till the report comes out but so far its reported he was hit twice . Ex police have questioned why they bothered as it was raining and fatigue was setting in and tall they had to do was wait .

 

[Hotman]

Because that's what tasers do to you they put your muscles in to spasam , and they involuntary flip out . We wouldnt know why they did it till the report comes out but so far its reported he was hit twice . Ex police have questioned why they bothered as it was raining and fatigue was setting in and tall they had to do was wait .

Did he involuntarily shoot the other people then, guess that was the nasty police's fault as well.

 

[Kenny]

I couldn't resist knocking this up.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Where has this stuff about him being mentally ill come from. People only seem to have started claiming this since he has died. If there was a full psych assessment then fair enough but is their any evidence this happened?

I'm no psychologist, but who in their right mind goes round killing people?

 

[chadded]

I don't understand using Taser when the use of a baton gun would have been far more appropriate.

 

[Kent Shrimper]

Irrationally shooting people for one , help bent on revenge , paranoia blaming others for his own actions , taking on a suicidal course of action by declaring war on police . Also most of the week has had Psychiatrist and Forensic psychologists on radio and tv declaring he was not of a sound mind.

This is terrible all round .

Not all round Osy, the one that blew his brains out was spot on!!

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

The world(or at least the North East of England)is almost certainly a safer place without Raoul Moat in it.It's not necessarily a better place though.

 

[Pubey]

b3ta

 

[SUBBlue]

"The police used tasers... potentially causing muscle spasms that made him pull the trigger!!" - What a crock - can you spell 'compensation'? !!

Because that's what tasers do to you they put your muscles in to spasam , and they involuntary flip out . We wouldnt know why they did it till the report comes out but so far its reported he was hit twice . Ex police have questioned why they bothered as it was raining and fatigue was setting in and tall they had to do was wait .

'What a crock' being the unlikely (& pathetic) reasoning that he may not have meant to kill himself but instead was caused by the electric discharge...

'Ex-police' weren't there confronted by an irrational maniac with a firearm..

 

[osymandus]

Did he involuntarily shoot the other people then, guess that was the nasty police's fault as well.

Thats not what we're talking about here . What he did was wrong and terrible what happened to him likewise could be a **** up (remember the coppers who shot him propably didnt intend it or maybe though **** his shot himself ! ) . What needs to be learnt from this is 1) IF a prison has a warning and passes it on to police acknolwedge it .

 

[osymandus]

He was there for 6 hours surrounded by coppers out of range in flak armor with bullet prove shields snipers and hard skin cars . The ex coppers we're observing and we're ex So19 and the sniper unit their assessment was he was no threat except to himself .

Had he wanted to kill himself he would have walked out and shot himself in front of everyone . 6 hours says he was probably thinking about it.

 

[SUBBlue]

At least it all ended up for the best - we as taxpayers now don't have to foot the bill for his incarcaration plus the conclusive ending to the stand-off meant precious public resources were not needlessly wasted.

He looked a big lump though - wouldn't want to be the poor git carrying that wooden overcoat..

 

[PrawNZ]

When I loose my raulmout, it's normally down the back of the sofa!

 

[GBJ]

How about all of them . He was mentaly unfit to begin with . The info wasn't passed on , the worry and stress of teh poor *******s sent out to hunt him down , and the prospect of having to know you can shoot another person and live with that . Give the police credit they did very well , they didnt send out assisnation squads, they wanted him alive . Just the way it ended, may well have not been for the best .

A gun-toting maniac who has threatened the lives of innocent people is dead. Sounds a fair ending to me Osy

 

[GBJ]

Ex police have questioned why they bothered as it was raining and fatigue was setting in and tall they had to do was wait .

They had already waited 7 hours! LOL They could have still been there now! He had every chance to drop the guns and concede defeat. It was clear he was only going out 1 way. Good IMO. Just another loon off the streets.

Oh and his brother sounds like a right ****. How did he intend to 'save' him? If Paul Gascoigne armed with Chicken and beer can't save someone, no-one can