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Police Yesterday

The commendable and not-at-all provocative or rude local constabulary were conspicuous by their absence, however, when the team coach had their windows smashed by some Borient followers. How jolly odd that is.

I'm absolutely certain, though, that nobody could ever think that perhaps the Met in that area are down on arrests so far this year and so perhaps needed to engineer a situation whereby they could make more ejections or arrests to bump up their stats and apparent effectiveness. Perish the thought.
 
Anybody who had serious issues with the old bill yesterday would be well advised to post their stories on the forums at standupsitdown.co.uk and see what advice you can get from the regulars on there.

Also, they've got good sections on just exactly what the police can and cannot get away with. I am guessing they had no real justification in asking people for ID & cards with what has been stated as having happened (especially fairly innocent singing of football songs in a pub)!

Were the old bill filming people too at any point? If so & you think they might have had some issues with you, I'd severely think twice about showing face at Millwall!
 
Wow.. all sounds like you had a rough time.. i think some of you may have an eye opening experience at Millwall
 
Wow.. all sounds like you had a rough time.. i think some of you may have an eye opening experience at Millwall
Whats it like there these days? I know it was ridiculously bad in the past, but I've never been and considering going.

(FAO Cricko, we'll have a sat nav)
 
i remember millwall trying to get all their fans back after there being trouble at every home and away game and understandably because of all the trouble normal fans are just going to get sick of it. saw on the news there being posters everywhere trying to encourage people back and that they have cleaned things up by banning certain people etc. after seeing them come down earlier in the season this doesn't seem to have changed but havn't been their ground in a while so don't know what it like these days.
 
It's these kind of stories that put me off moving back to England. Last August after Orient at home, me and my mates were walking through Southend and got warned by police and threatened with spending the night in a cell - when all we were doing was walking and chatting amongst ourselves. We had our Irish flags wrapped around our waists and, while i am ony assuming, they may have thought we were easy targets or something of the sort.

I realise there are many officers who do a good job - but in my opinion there are too many of these heavy handed officers around atm - and it just feels to me like they are trying to aspire to the american police way of heavy force and so on. Over here if any of the things that you are all speaking about happened - we would just remember the officers ID on their shoulder - and report it confidentially...something is always done, as i have a mate who is in the force. As a result - generally things are much more relaxed and the police only resort to force unless absolutely necessary.
 
was similar in the pub 'the last post' at the leeds game. there were leeds and southend fans in there. quite a few actually and no trouble whats so ever yet they all walked in about ten of them and started warning people and had cameras.

people were asking them why the need to start coming in and bothering people when nothing was happening and start warning fans for no reason? you'd think they would want trouble to start. very similar the coach and horses yesterday. everyone singing a few songs. no trouble happening yet about 12 of them decide to come in and walk around and stand at the end start warning people and then ask a group to leave for some un-known reason.

All this being the police still manage to miss the attack of our players coach. the league has to punish them for this. we all know they won't, if it was us it would be another story.
 
very similar the coach and horses yesterday. everyone singing a few songs. no trouble happening yet about 12 of them decide to come in and walk around and stand at the end start warning people and then ask a group to leave for some un-known reason.

The reason they gave me was 'because you were singing' :p

Eh? Three-quarters of the pub was singing! I heard rumours that the landlord had complained so asked the police to chuck some people out, and they were hardly very effective in doing so as most of the people they "chucked out" were back in the pub after ten minutes!
 
All this being the police still manage to miss the attack of our players coach. the league has to punish them for this. we all know they won't, if it was us it would be another story.

Would you be happy about the League punishing Southend if something similar happened away from the ground and perpetrated by unspecified individuals who may or may not have been actual supporters and may or may not have been at the game?

I can recall no examples of the League treating us less favourably than other similar clubs.
 
I guess that comment was partly down to when Freddy got his extra match ban for the "frivolous" appeal, but as you say, no similar precedent in this case.

That was an FA Regulatory Commission and nothing to do with the League. It was also an inevitable, if wrong, decision with the FA dying to use their new sanction and, superficially, this case seemed to fit the bill.
 

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