Please can we stop giving a poster grief if their opinion is different to yours

[OldBlueLady]

I think I speak for a number of us who have become more and more fed up that certain posters on here continually pick holes in our comments on what we see/think in matches.

I know I am one of the more rose tinted posters - thankfully - and I know that I usually try to see the good in our players, however, if I make a critical observation then that is my opinion, and while I accept someone can question that, if I then explain why I feel that way, I don't then expect to still be questionned. Likewise with other posters.

It's a tough time out there for our players and our supporters, but we are all entitled to our own thoughts, our own opinions and views on what we see week in, week out. It doesn't make it wrong just because it is different to yours.

Just a little more common courtesy please.

 

[AndyT]

Spot on 'OBL'

Absolutely 100% this. :thumbsup:

 

[RobM]

I agree too - if people are going to have a go at another individual, do it via pm.

 

[WESTY_SUFC]

Sorry but I don't agree with this which makes it wrong. FACT. END OF.

 

[AndyT]

"I agree" .. "Well, then I don't agree!" :- :smile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzbcAem4bN8

 

[Mick]

If you post an opinion on a discussion forum you are inviting responses and debate, but not personal abuse.

If someone comes on and says he/she disagrees, preferably with reasons, that's to be expected and acceptable.

 

[AndyT]

... Indeed, as long as the two posters accept each others opinions.

 

[onceknownasrab]

If you post an opinion on a discussion forum you are inviting responses and debate, but not personal abuse.

If someone comes on and says he/she disagrees, preferably with reasons, that's to be expected and acceptable.

I am currently liaising with my lawyers because of the damage caused by the personal attacks on this forum and the mods lack of control. Oh the trauma! The constant barrages have left me with PTSD. I have to wear latex gloves to use the keyboard in some vain attempt to maintain a distance between the assailants and myself. The psychological scars, mercilessly wreaked upon me, will never heal.
Oh, sorry Mick, I meant to post this on The U'sual.

 

[turkishm]

One of the biggest problems is when an overseas blues fan makes an observation on a match that he has not seen, can get right up some posters noses. I tend not to say much about a players performances for this very reason, and i do understand those that see no relevance that overseas blues have to say about matches, but we must be allowed to post something about matches, otherwise whats the point in joining Shrimperzone.

 

[Lord Football]

I originally like the opening post, but I've taken it out of context having now seen some of the context.

We have different opinions, and that's fine. If you decide to get personal or aggressive about others' opinions, then you can expect your post reported and a mod to be having a word. In the last 24 hours, one post has been reported (and it has been removed) and I've personally not seen anything that against the rules. So, I don't think there has is a problem.

If however, someone disagrees with your opinion and does so in a manner that is neither personal or aggressive, then I believe that is what a forum is about. That is what discussion is. That is how we share experiences.

If you do not like your opinion being questioned, then maybe this isn't the place to be raising it.

Ordinarily, I'd close this as there isn't much more to debate. But in this case, I'll leave it open in case anyone wishes to disagree with my opinion. :)

Luv n stuff

LF
(Modding properly for a change)

 

[AndyT]

It's not the questioning of a post 'Lordster'. I think we all know that's how a forum works. As 'united' and others have said, sometimes picking someone up on a comment allows them to expand on why they feel that way and helps the questioner accept the viewpoint better. That's all fine and dandy.

It's the "You must be a clueless idiot for thinking like that" style responses that are unacceptable and add nothing to the debate apart from allowing it to descend into a personal spat, the likes of which have put off people from posting on here at times.

As 'OBL' says, it's only a bit of common courtesy that's needed.

After all, we are all supporting the same team.

 

[onceknownasrab]

I originally like the opening post, but I've taken it out of context having now seen some of the context.

We have different opinions, and that's fine. If you decide to get personal or aggressive about others' opinions, then you can expect your post reported and a mod to be having a word. In the last 24 hours, one post has been reported (and it has been removed) and I've personally not seen anything that against the rules. So, I don't think there has is a problem.

If however, someone disagrees with your opinion and does so in a manner that is neither personal or aggressive, then I believe that is what a forum is about. That is what discussion is. That is how we share experiences.

If you do not like your opinion being questioned, then maybe this isn't the place to be raising it.

Ordinarily, I'd close this as there isn't much more to debate. But in this case, I'll leave it open in case anyone wishes to disagree with my opinion. :)

Luv n stuff

LF
(Modding properly for a change)

Spot on. I think the issue is varying ways with differing people. Some just want to be inflammatory and rude as a matter of course. Others just get a little too caught up in the passion and emotion that is football. I have posted vehemently and with undue agitation, mainly in the past, but don't genuinely wish to offend anyone.

The forum is for Blues fans. There is not a Stepford Blue and there is a broad range when it comes to knowledge, literacy, emotional state etc... Sanitising the site, and being mindful not to allow extreme posting, is all well and good but we should also be promoting awareness, tolerance and the appreciation of the view of others. I have been in conversation at RH with people who drop the F bomb every other word and who clearly assess the game based upon their own uninformed prejudices. Its their opinion however much I disagree with it and they are as entitled to it as any other supporter that can debate for England.
Maybe we all need to address our sensitivities a bit. This is a great site and brilliant forum. Too much change may detract. Of course that is only my opinion.

 

[Member]

... Indeed, as long as the two posters accept each others opinions.

I disagree - it's not about accepting each other's opinions, it's about accepting each other's RIGHT to an opinion.

I disagree with your post/view, but not to your right to post it in the first place.

The whole point about a discussion board is that people discuss things. People have different views/opinions/values and that's just normal. As long as posts aren't unnecessarily personal/aggressive/off-topic/in breach of any rules, then I fail to see what the issue is here. People stating things as facts/right/wrong, are probably forgetting that football isn't science and that many things are subjective. However, people can sometimes be wrong about things (c.f. Barnablue and Barry Corr).

 

[Ex-Member1]

The site merely reflects what passes for acceptable behaviour and standards nowadays. I am an old fart with old fashioned values and principles which imho are sorely lacking in this open and ' in yer face' society we live in today. I don't think it is particularly prevalent to SZ. It is a crying shame and I am glad I am old school and proud of retaining some sense of dignity and decorum.

 

[AndyT]

I disagree - it's not about accepting each other's opinions, it's about accepting each other's RIGHT to an opinion.

I disagree with your post/view, but not to your right to post it in the first place.

I think that's the same thing, in truth.

Either way, that's what I meant.

 

[Rayleigh boy]

anyone who disagrees with me is a

 

[RHB]

There's a fair bit of Voltaire whistling round here at the moment, and rightly so. My take on all of this is that there will always be moments when posters get personal or aggressive for a myriad of reasons and there are options that posters on the receiving end can take. They can ignore it, they can respond and point out that they are unimpressed, they can report the post or they can put the poster concerned on 'ignore'. The other side of the coin is that the offending poster can realise that they have been unfair and apologise. Backing all of this up other posters can intervene and ask nob heads to desist, and finally, mods read the board and where necessary take action. It's not a perfect system but by and large it works and after an upset peace breaks out and life goes on. The rules of the site are well worth a read now and again just to remind us all of how we should behave, because now and again we forget. If you can't behave then the site rules cover that as well, **** off and find another forum to disrupt.

 

[Lester Bangs]

if people are going to have a go at another individual, do it via pm.

Or just don't do it at all.

 

[Lord Football]

It's not the questioning of a post 'Lordster'. I think we all know that's how a forum works. As 'united' and others have said, sometimes picking someone up on a comment allows them to expand on why they feel that way and helps the questioner accept the viewpoint better. That's all fine and dandy.

It's the "You must be a clueless idiot for thinking like that" style responses that are unacceptable and add nothing to the debate apart from allowing it to descend into a personal spat, the likes of which have put off people from posting on here at times.

As 'OBL' says, it's only a bit of common courtesy that's needed.

After all, we are all supporting the same team.

I don't think I said anything different..... though I have seen some stuff that seems to think people aren't allowed to respond. And that is what I am getting at.

 

[rararblue]

One of the biggest problems is when an overseas blues fan makes an observation on a match that he has not seen, can get right up some posters noses. I tend not to say much about a players performances for this very reason, and i do understand those that see no relevance that overseas blues have to say about matches, but we must be allowed to post something about matches, otherwise whats the point in joining Shrimperzone.

You do know that Overseas posters can watch all the games live, now, on I follow,. That must entitle them/us to make observations on games.