• Welcome to the ShrimperZone forums.
    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which only gives you limited access.

    Existing Users:.
    Please log-in using your existing username and password. If you have any problems, please see below.

    New Users:
    Join our free community now and gain access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and free. Click here to join.

    Fans from other clubs
    We welcome and appreciate supporters from other clubs who wish to engage in sensible discussion. Please feel free to join as above but understand that this is a moderated site and those who cannot play nicely will be quickly removed.

    Assistance Required
    For help with the registration process or accessing your account, please send a note using the Contact us link in the footer, please include your account name. We can then provide you with a new password and verification to get you on the site.

Breaking News Pepple recalled by Luton

Forums New posts
Leigh_Seasider said:
No you're totally right but so far Kev hasn't given him the chance. I'd happily see him given one. I mentioned Kendall as he's the Cards replacement as such (good at pressing, closing down etc). I've always thought DW made an effort when I've seen him too so they could work as a pair with Waldron making runs behind.
Click to expand...
I would like to see a little more of Waldron and think he hasn't been given the opportunity, but the cameos and games he has started I am yet to be impressed and Maher and Co must be seeing the same in training.

He certainly is no Pepple and I would like to see him start on Saturday. He won’t, it will be Kendall and Bonnie upfront.

We should get our chequebook out and sign Pepple if we have serious intentions of getting out of this league…the new consortium member has a pound or two. I think it is very unlikely we will get promoted trying to run this club on a sustainable basis, we might, but it’s a long shot!
 
Last edited:
Yorkshire Blue said:
Well, I see effort I just don’t see a crisp enough first touch or the physical strength (same with Kendall as well though to be honest) so am curious as to what you’ve seen otherwise so I can look out for it next time. Only looking for a discussion not an argument.

Anyway he’d be an outlier because he was 27 when he joined us with no track record in professional football and only half a season in NLN. It’s very rare for players with that profile go onto successful careers.


I’d imagine it’ll be announced Friday afternoon/evening, with his replacement announced about five minutes later.

That’s more or less what happened when we lost Cardwell.

Suspect Kev is currently fuming at Chris Phillips for breaking this news before then.
Click to expand...
It may well be that you have seen more of his fleeting appearances than me, but based on what I have seen I have not been able to assess him one way or another. Footballers need time to bed in and their confidence improves based on performance and the length of time that performance lasts. What I do think, and always have done, is that he has yet to be given that opportunity. Maybe you can assess players quicker than me, quite likely, but my past experience on the playing side has always shown that playing time x encouragement brings out the best in a player (if it is there). When I have joined a new club back in the day, that was the mantra. I still don't understand what a outlier is. Is there another definition other than the AI one?
 
Yorkshire Blue said:
Well, I see effort I just don’t see a crisp enough first touch or the physical strength (same with Kendall as well though to be honest) so am curious as to what you’ve seen otherwise so I can look out for it next time. Only looking for a discussion not an argument.

Anyway he’d be an outlier because he was 27 when he joined us with no track record in professional football and only half a season in NLN. It’s very rare for players with that profile go onto successful careers.


I’d imagine it’ll be announced Friday afternoon/evening, with his replacement announced about five minutes later.

That’s more or less what happened when we lost Cardwell.

Suspect Kev is currently fuming at Chris Phillips for breaking this news before then.
Click to expand...
To be fair, I've just seen the Derbyshire rag posting that Chesterfield are after him. Don't think Chris can be blamed for what looks like a done deal.

Be interesting to see if TL and Kev turn up the the trust Q and A after this.
 
rlb999 said:
Which of course we shouldn't be - because there's no need at our level of the game to pay a substantial fee for anyone. If York are daft enough to, let them get on with it.
Click to expand...
There is if we ever have ambitions of getting out of this league, money talks
 
Yorkshire Blue said:
Well, I see effort I just don’t see a crisp enough first touch or the physical strength (same with Kendall as well though to be honest) so am curious as to what you’ve seen otherwise so I can look out for it next time. Only looking for a discussion not an argument.

Anyway he’d be an outlier because he was 27 when he joined us with no track record in professional football and only half a season in NLN. It’s very rare for players with that profile go onto successful careers.


I’d imagine it’ll be announced Friday afternoon/evening, with his replacement announced about five minutes later.

That’s more or less what happened when we lost Cardwell.

Suspect Kev is currently fuming at Chris Phillips for breaking this news before then.
Click to expand...
Do we have someone lined up to replace him?
 
RHB said:
It may well be that you have seen more of his fleeting appearances than me, but based on what I have seen I have not been able to assess him one way or another. Footballers need time to bed in and their confidence improves based on performance and the length of time that performance lasts. What I do think, and always have done, is that he has yet to be given that opportunity. Maybe you can assess players quicker than me, quite likely, but my past experience on the playing side has always shown that playing time x encouragement brings out the best in a player (if it is there). When I have joined a new club back in the day, that was the mantra. I still don't understand what an outlier is. Is there another definition other than the AI one?
Click to expand...

I think outlier is a statistics term rather than anything to do with AI.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Outlier - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

I think you make some good points about players needing time to settle etc but I think the stuff Waldron is failing on isn’t particularly stuff that would be improved by playing time - IMO you’ve either got a good touch or you haven’t. I remember seeing Charlie Mulgrew’s first first touch and immediately knowing he was class. Waldron’s touch just isn’t silky, his footwork isn’t sharp. Of course you need more than just a good touch or else Mr Moncur wouldn’t be playing for the team bottom of the NL but IMO it’s one of the quickest ways to spot the players who have the quality.

Blues4LifeDan said:
To be fair, I've just seen the Derbyshire rag posting that Chesterfield are after him. Don't think Chris can be blamed for what looks like a done deal.
Click to expand...

I didn’t say it was justified…
 
  • Like
Reactions: RHB
Sherif H said:
You sure about that? Bonne has a reputation based on one good season at this level about 6 years ago and has scored about 4 goals since then (**** knows how). Waldron has had one good season at Step 2, and has barely featured for us. Walker - jury is massively out, but doesn't look like the answer to any of our problems. Kendall is really the only one that sparks any kind of enthusiasm.
Click to expand...

Whilst Bonne got a hatful for Orient at this level probably the more impressive seasons were 11 in 26+7 in the Championship with Charlton and 12 in 29+14 with Ipswich in L1

Typically when he does get a goal or two he can go on runs of scoring regularly. Obviously we will all hope that happens.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

.



Club News
Fixtures and Results
League Table
SUFC Ticket Stats
Shrimpers Trust
SoccerBase
SUEPA (Ex Players)
Shrimperzone on Facebook
Shrimperzone on Twitter
Shrimperzone on Instagram


ShrimperZone Sponsors

FFM MSPFX Foreign Exchange Services
Estuary MFF2
Zone Advertisers Zone Advertisers

ShrimperZone - SUFC Player Sponsorship

Southend United Away Travel


All At Sea Fanzine


Back
Top