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Well yeah, you'd have to be thick to go to PC World I suppose...
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Ah yes PC world !! Ok only ever buy from them if they have a sale on and theyve discounted unknown names (well unknown to them but normaly good quality compants !

I worked for one of their suppliers in the early 90's , every day we would recieve back between 5-8 palates of the old style Iomega Zips drives (not a bad product really but essential a lump of plastic witha PCB in side )

PC world in those days (im sure its changed now ) would simply accept anything returned by the customer (which of course they would check !)

SO one day we actually checked some of the boxs returned (on average the pallates would contain about 200 drives ).

Now I should point out to be retuned for a "credit" from teh store you should have back 1 drive one PSU and 1 piece of media .

This conatined 1 chair leg , one lump of melted smashed up blusih plastic (actually not a drive) and some paper .

Oh the cunning swines. They had obviously tricked the fine minds of PC world with some sort of Jedia Mind trick !!!

COmpants etc try www.aria.co.uk . www.scan.co.uk . Dell a nice package if you want a simply system . Aleinware for the gamers amoung you and at the moment (dear i say it ) Sony or Samsung for laptops ( i think its samsung that do the ones current bought by Essex police for their SOCOS which can be run over by a 4X4 )
 
Personally I never use any shop like PC World, Dixons etc as I think they are a total rip off. Also I wasn't best pleased with the "after care" I recieved from Dixons.

I always go to AUT in Shoebury, buy everything separately and build the damn thing myself.

Dell are also worth a look too.
 
Had two pc's from pc world.
First was in '98  when I knew naff all about computers (having got my computer studies 'o' level on an Acorn 32k back in '86).
I Went in there with a grand and said to the guy, "look mate, I'm walking out of here today with a pc, so you've got your sale, I just need to know what one to buy."
"What you want it for?" I'm asked.
"Playing games mainly, not too bothered about the internet,(I'd seen dial up on my mates and couldn't understand what all the fuss was about) I do like a good flight sim and a bit of empire building."
So the assistant tells me to get a Packard Bell, and even points me to the right one. I've still got a bit of change left out my bag o' sand so I buy civilisation, microsoft flight sim and air combat.
Get the thing home, boot it up and civilisation works but the flight sims don't.
So I took it back and was pointed to their technical desk.
They agreed to look at it  and the next day told me there was nothing wrong with it, it just wasn't up to spec and needed a 3D graphics card, " you should have got one like that" says techy bloke pointing at a Compaq which was cheaper than the one I bought.
O.K. I thought, I'll exchange it then. Oh no, can't do that, we've opened the back up.
After getting nowhere with the manager my only option was to upgrade for another £150.
I vowed never to buy anything from them again, but after the real crock of sh!t I bought from Curry's (where all the components were loose and had to be glued in!) I went back to them and bought another pc.
Again I was misadvised, but being a bit more clued up now I refused the assistance of the tech desk and demanded an exchange.
I was given an Advent, and to be fair, It's been the best one I've had.
It's a stable machine and has only had to be rebooted once in two years when it copped a virus.
The lesson I learnt that time was not to let your testosterone charged dyslexic nephew use the pc when he stays round.
The silly sod typed in 'ANE PORN' on Altavista, instead of any.
Ane in French is donkey apparently, so the daft bugger ended up downloading a shed of bestial images Caligula would have blushed at, along with the  pc version of foot and mouth.
Oh well, live and learn.  
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NEVER EVER GO TO, OR BUY ANYTHING FROM, PC WORLD!!!!

They are possibly one of the worst shops you could ever have the displeasure to go to. Being a student studying computing I like to think I have a bit of computer knowledge however when I said I was looking for a hub to feed one internet cable into and have four coming out of they told me that they are not used anymore and that I should buy a wireless router! Someone should tell them this is not the solution to all problems!!!!!

Also another assisstant tried to tell me, when buying speakers for my laptop, that a set of 140w 5.1 surround sound speakers would sound louder than 210w 7.1 speakers. HOW???!!!!

Dell are worth a look for desktops but there laptops are usually overpriced for the spec. One place to try would be MESH computers - got my laptop over a year ago from there and (touch wood) have not had any problems other than them not including a reboot cd.
 
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Quote[/b] (andrew_sthnd @ Oct. 26 2006,20:15)]NEVER EVER GO TO, OR BUY ANYTHING FROM, PC WORLD!!!!

They are possibly one of the worst shops you could ever have the displeasure to go to. Being a student studying computing I like to think I have a bit of computer knowledge however when I said I was looking for a hub to feed one internet cable into and have four coming out of they told me that they are not used anymore and that I should buy a wireless router! Someone should tell them this is not the solution to all problems!!!!!

Also another assisstant tried to tell me, when buying speakers for my laptop, that a set of 140w 5.1 surround sound speakers would sound louder than 210w 7.1 speakers. HOW???!!!!

Dell are worth a look for desktops but there laptops are usually overpriced for the spec. One place to try would be MESH computers - got my laptop over a year ago from there and (touch wood) have not had any problems other than them not including a reboot cd.
I'm using a fairly new hub right now. It was obviously a rouse to get you to fork out more money when you needn't bother. I'm sure it will work on some people though.

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Quote[/b] (We're not Cockneys @ Oct. 26 2006,19:49)]I always go to AUT in Shoebury
Ohhhh don't get me started
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Ok, I use a laptop for personal use, top of the range HP which isn't bad but has some huge problems with cooling and consequently likes to blow from time to time! Funny enough that was brought from PC World but thats another story which is all much of muchness.

As a freelance architect, I do alot of work from home on some relatively hefty software so decided to rebuild an old computer to speed it up a bit. I had some memory lying around the house from another old computer so wacked that in there but I needed to buy some RAM. So I went to AUT to buy two sticks of 512. Just to give you some idea I live in Rayleigh so its a fair drive. Got back, fixed both pieces in, one didn't work. Arghh. So, I drove all the way back over to Shoebury to change the piece. Saturday. Shop closes at 3pm. Its 3.09, Arrrgghhh. So, I give myself Sunday to cool down and calmy drive back over to AUT and explain to the chap behind the counter whats wrong. "No problem, heres a new piece. Have a nice day" So, back home, tries to fix it in. Its the wrong bloody piece! Arrgghhhhh. I drive back over to Shoebury, this time quite angry and explain to the nice chap behind the counter my situation and that if it didn't work this time I may very well be tempted to do something I may regret. So after a few sarcastic apologies, he swaps the piece for the right one. I drive back, opens computer fixes it into place, turns on computer .... it doesn't work!
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Quote[/b] (We're not Cockneys @ Oct. 26 2006,19:49)]I always go to AUT in Shoebury
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I drive back, opens computer fixes it into place, turns on computer .... it doesn't work!    
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I only ever buy memory from www.crucial.com/uk

they match it to the supplier of the PC/motherboard .  Always works  
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Quote[/b] (The Artful Shrimper @ Oct. 26 2006,10:37)]To be honest I've had enough of computers but still need one for music n stuff.
And surely for sending in superb cartoons to All At Sea Artful! We've missed your daubings, bring it back!
 
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Quote[/b] (southendstrett @ Oct. 26 2006,20:12)]It's a stable machine and has only had to be rebooted once in two years when it copped a virus.
The lesson I learnt that time was not to let your testosterone charged dyslexic nephew use the pc when he stays round.
The silly sod typed in 'ANE PORN' on Altavista, instead of any.
Ane in French is donkey apparently, so the daft bugger ended up downloading a shed of bestial images Caligula would have blushed at, along with the  pc version of foot and mouth.
Oh well, live and learn.  
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That is a brilliant story.
 
I bought a PC from C World once and it would regularly fail to boot up. I ended up taking back and demanding they changed it, which they did. I subsequetly now get all my PCs made to order from a mate of mine who has an IT firm and is also now an ISP. However after my son did a few weeks work for him he showed me how easy it is to actually build the thing yourself.
When u open a PC up it looks complicated with all those wires. They nearly all come from the PSU (power suply unit) and can only be plugged in to correct slots - you almost cant get it wrong. Have a look inside an old one and start taking it to bits you wil see how simple it is.
Whilst I originally viewed the whole thing with some trepidation, my son reckons a complete build should take 15-20 minutes, but I would allow an hour.
Basically you need a case, a motherboard with processor, a hard drive, sound card, graphics card, dvd drive, floppy if required, and a PSU. Have a good look round the internet - avoid ebay- maybe places like www.overclockers.com or www.afterhours.co.uk and you should end up with a top spec machine that doesnt cost a fortune and the satisfaction of having built it for yourself.
 
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Quote[/b] (steveo1 @ Oct. 29 2006,08:40)]I bought a PC from C World once and it would regularly fail to boot up. I ended up taking back and demanding they changed it, which they did. I subsequetly now get all my PCs made to order from a mate of mine who has an IT firm and is also now an ISP. However after my son did a few weeks work for him he showed me how easy it is to actually build the thing yourself.
When u open a PC up it looks complicated with all those wires. They nearly all come from the PSU (power suply unit) and can only be plugged in to correct slots - you almost cant get it wrong. Have a look inside an old one and start taking it to bits you wil see how simple it is.
Whilst I originally viewed the whole thing with some trepidation, my son reckons a complete build should take 15-20 minutes, but I would allow an hour.
Basically you need a case, a motherboard with processor, a hard drive, sound card, graphics card, dvd drive, floppy if required, and a PSU. Have a good look round the internet - avoid ebay- maybe places like www.overclockers.com or www.afterhours.co.uk and you should end up with a top spec machine that doesnt cost a fortune and the satisfaction of having built it for yourself.
Agree with that, building a machine is almost like lego - just be careful to get processor/memory that is compatible with the mother board, but most parts suppliers will sell you a matched bundle.

What often takes the time and can cause problems is installing the operating system and drivers for all the goodies you add on. But the best way to learn is to do it, and it is much more fun to have a PC that you specified and built.
 
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Quote[/b] (southendstrett @ Oct. 26 2006,20:12)]The lesson I learnt that time was not to let your testosterone charged dyslexic nephew use the pc when he stays round.
The silly sod typed in 'ANE PORN' on Altavista, instead of any.
Ane in French is donkey apparently, so the daft bugger ended up downloading a shed of bestial images Caligula would have blushed at, along with the  pc version of foot and mouth.
Oh well, live and learn.  
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So your PC wasn't the only thing that was Un-Stable.....

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